
587 and Covid
06/08/24 • 36 min
Sometimes a shared felt experience is worth looking at in a new light. So in today’s episode, we’re looking at the coronavirus pandemic in the context of the Exile story from the Old Testament.
Walter Brueggemann says that when we go through a community-wide trauma like the exile, we tend to move through three stages: interpretation, reflection and anticipation.
Together, we can consider what felt true in the collective trauma of Covid over the past four years; and how the Israelites learned to process Jewish law and evolve their thinking about God’s nature and the concept of suffering
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Resources
- Stanley Hauerwas: Unleashing the Scripture
- Peter Enns: Odds and Enns Substack
- Bema Discipleship Podcast
- Walter Brueggemann: Conversations Among Exile
- Walter Brueggemann: Jeremiah and the Exile
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This podcast is a production of Worship Lab, and recorded in Brooklyn New York. Our executive producer is Armistead Booker. Our technical director and engineer is Gareth Manwaring. And our sound designer is Oleksandr Stepanov. Music by penguinmusic - *Better Day* from Pixabay.
Share your ideas with us! You can email [email protected]. Thanks for listening!
Sometimes a shared felt experience is worth looking at in a new light. So in today’s episode, we’re looking at the coronavirus pandemic in the context of the Exile story from the Old Testament.
Walter Brueggemann says that when we go through a community-wide trauma like the exile, we tend to move through three stages: interpretation, reflection and anticipation.
Together, we can consider what felt true in the collective trauma of Covid over the past four years; and how the Israelites learned to process Jewish law and evolve their thinking about God’s nature and the concept of suffering
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Resources
- Stanley Hauerwas: Unleashing the Scripture
- Peter Enns: Odds and Enns Substack
- Bema Discipleship Podcast
- Walter Brueggemann: Conversations Among Exile
- Walter Brueggemann: Jeremiah and the Exile
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This podcast is a production of Worship Lab, and recorded in Brooklyn New York. Our executive producer is Armistead Booker. Our technical director and engineer is Gareth Manwaring. And our sound designer is Oleksandr Stepanov. Music by penguinmusic - *Better Day* from Pixabay.
Share your ideas with us! You can email [email protected]. Thanks for listening!
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Get ready, we’re talking about all the things. Feminism, Sodom and Gomorrah, patriarchy, inclusivity, hell, sexual identity, and the Barbie movie.
It was a crazy emotional week and we found it impossible to talk about one thing without all the others. Ultimately, in today’s episode, we’re looking towards God's heart for the oppressed and his radical inclusion and empowerment of all people. This is how we know that God is good for everyone. And this is what we are so passionate about.
We also share a challenge at the end of our conversation. If you are curious about a passage of scripture or “hot button topic” that makes you question the goodness of God, please send it to us! We may not have the answers, but we would love to investigate and be curious with you. Never hesitate to reach out. You can email [email protected] or reach out via social media @theexileproject.
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Resources
- Jonathan McIntosh: Patriarchy According to the Barbie Movie
- Peter Enns: The Sin of Certainty
- Megan K Defranza: Sex Difference in Christian Theology - Male, Female, and Intersex in the Image of God
- Eric Berkowitz: Sex and Punishment - Four Thousand Years of Judging Desire
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Bible References
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This podcast is a production of Worship Lab, and recorded in Brooklyn New York. Our executive producer is Armistead Booker. Our technical director and engineer is Gareth Manwaring. And our sound designer is Oleksandr Stepanov. Music by penguinmusic - *Better Day* from Pixabay.
Share your ideas with us! You can email [email protected]. Thanks for listening!
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Why Do Bad Things Happen?
Have you ever wondered why bad things happen to good people? Well you're not alone.
In today's episode, we're going to unpack that question, exploring how the Bible helps us to process this contradiction. We'll also discuss how to weather the difficult moments in our own lives, and then how we can sit with others with empathy and love when they are moving through tough times.
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Resources
- Sarah Bessey: Miracles and Other Reasonable Things
- Peter Enns: Odds and Enns Substack
- Bema Discipleship Podcast
- Walter Brueggemann: Jeremiah and the Exile
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This podcast is a production of Worship Lab, and recorded in Brooklyn New York. Our executive producer is Armistead Booker. Our technical director and engineer is Gareth Manwaring. And our sound designer is Oleksandr Stepanov. Music by penguinmusic - *Better Day* from Pixabay.
Share your ideas with us! You can email [email protected]. Thanks for listening!
The Exile Project - 587 and Covid
Transcript
Everyone, this is Patricia and this is Elisa. Welcome to The Exile Project. We're so glad you're here. Elisa, when was the moment that you felt like COVID was going to be real? Like it was going to be a big deal? Mm hmm. I feel like. I feel like I was later to the game probably the most. But it was March 15th. I was in a restaurant when the restaurant shut down. Oh, my gosh. It was sort of it's like met the moment. But, yeah, it was the last time I was in a restaurant for, well, I don't know,
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