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The Deep-Sea Podcast - The depths of Lake Baikal with Marianne Moore

The depths of Lake Baikal with Marianne Moore

06/07/24 • 68 min

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The Deep-Sea Podcast

Located in southern Siberia and covered in thick ice for almost half of the year, the colossal Lake Baikal reaches depths of 1600m making it the oldest, and deepest lake in the world. With hydrothermal vents, methane seeps and vast swathes of endemic species, this ancient lake was too tempting not to talk about.

We speak with Professor Marianne Moore, a Limnologist who has been working on the lake for over 2 decades. She guides us through its incredible ecosystems and species such as the world's only freshwater seal, deep water insects and foot-long flatworms! Plus, we hear about the myths and mysteries of the lake: from scientifically testing whether the mafia can use amphipods to effectively dispose of bodies, to whether there really is 1600 tonnes of gold hiding at the bottom of the lake.

The Professor is back on land after a succession of crazy adventures which includes writing a paper on backwards swimming in deep sea fish, finding the worlds deepest nudibranch (possibly) plus discovering his friends live in the most metal place ever.

There’s no Coffee with Andrew segment this month as he is taking a well deserved break (and is possibly touring the country looking for the strangest milks he can find), but we do hear from Kakani Kajita about the recent release of FathomVerse - the mobile game helping to contribute to deep sea citizen science. Kakani tells us about how it’s doing in its first month of release, and how it’s already making an impact in training deep sea AI models.

We’re really trying to make this project self-sustaining so we have started looking for ways to support the podcast. Here’s a link to our page on how to support us, from the free options to becoming a patron of the show. We want to say a huge thank you to those patrons who have already pledged to support us:

Elinor Wahl | Andrew Stewart | KJ Quintanilla | Thomas Brattheim

Thanks again for tuning in, we’ll deep-see you next time!

Check out our podcast merch here! Which now includes Alan’s beloved apron and a much anticipated new design...

Feel free to get in touch with us with questions or your own tales from the high seas on:

[email protected]

We’d love to actually play your voice so feel free to record a short audio note!

We are also on

Twitter: @DeepSeaPod, @ArmatusO

Facebook: DeepSeaPodcast, ArmatusOceanic

Instagram: @deepsea_podcast, @armatusoceanic

Keep up with the team on social media

Twitter:

Alan - @Hadalbloke (https://twitter.com/Hadalbloke)

Thom - @ThomLinley (https://twitter.com/ThomLinley)

Georgia - @geeinthesea (https://twitter.com/geeinthesea)

Instagram:

Georgia - @geeinthesea

Thom - @thom.linley

Read the show notes and find out more about us at:

www.armatusoceanic.com

FURTHER RESOURCES

Triton submarines are building a new submarine to visit the Titanic to show that deep sea exploration is safe

Robotic Explorers Uncover Unexpected Ancient Origins of Strange Seafloor Formations

Deep-sea sponge's 'zero-energy' flow control could inspire new energy efficient designs

LAKE BAIKAL READING

Intro to Lake Baikal and lakes:

Mogolov, L.S. 2017. The Soul of Siberia at Risk. Wellesley Magazine. p.16-22.

Moore, M.V., S.E. Hampton, L.R. Izmest’eva, E.A. Silow, E.V. Peshkova, and B. Pavlov. 2009. Climate change and the world’s ‘Sacred Sea’ – Lake Baikal, Siberia. BioScience 59:405-417

Thomson, P. 2007. Sacred Sea: A Journey to Lake Baikal, Oxford University Press. 320 p.

Vincent, W.F. 2018.

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Located in southern Siberia and covered in thick ice for almost half of the year, the colossal Lake Baikal reaches depths of 1600m making it the oldest, and deepest lake in the world. With hydrothermal vents, methane seeps and vast swathes of endemic species, this ancient lake was too tempting not to talk about.

We speak with Professor Marianne Moore, a Limnologist who has been working on the lake for over 2 decades. She guides us through its incredible ecosystems and species such as the world's only freshwater seal, deep water insects and foot-long flatworms! Plus, we hear about the myths and mysteries of the lake: from scientifically testing whether the mafia can use amphipods to effectively dispose of bodies, to whether there really is 1600 tonnes of gold hiding at the bottom of the lake.

The Professor is back on land after a succession of crazy adventures which includes writing a paper on backwards swimming in deep sea fish, finding the worlds deepest nudibranch (possibly) plus discovering his friends live in the most metal place ever.

There’s no Coffee with Andrew segment this month as he is taking a well deserved break (and is possibly touring the country looking for the strangest milks he can find), but we do hear from Kakani Kajita about the recent release of FathomVerse - the mobile game helping to contribute to deep sea citizen science. Kakani tells us about how it’s doing in its first month of release, and how it’s already making an impact in training deep sea AI models.

We’re really trying to make this project self-sustaining so we have started looking for ways to support the podcast. Here’s a link to our page on how to support us, from the free options to becoming a patron of the show. We want to say a huge thank you to those patrons who have already pledged to support us:

Elinor Wahl | Andrew Stewart | KJ Quintanilla | Thomas Brattheim

Thanks again for tuning in, we’ll deep-see you next time!

Check out our podcast merch here! Which now includes Alan’s beloved apron and a much anticipated new design...

Feel free to get in touch with us with questions or your own tales from the high seas on:

[email protected]

We’d love to actually play your voice so feel free to record a short audio note!

We are also on

Twitter: @DeepSeaPod, @ArmatusO

Facebook: DeepSeaPodcast, ArmatusOceanic

Instagram: @deepsea_podcast, @armatusoceanic

Keep up with the team on social media

Twitter:

Alan - @Hadalbloke (https://twitter.com/Hadalbloke)

Thom - @ThomLinley (https://twitter.com/ThomLinley)

Georgia - @geeinthesea (https://twitter.com/geeinthesea)

Instagram:

Georgia - @geeinthesea

Thom - @thom.linley

Read the show notes and find out more about us at:

www.armatusoceanic.com

FURTHER RESOURCES

Triton submarines are building a new submarine to visit the Titanic to show that deep sea exploration is safe

Robotic Explorers Uncover Unexpected Ancient Origins of Strange Seafloor Formations

Deep-sea sponge's 'zero-energy' flow control could inspire new energy efficient designs

LAKE BAIKAL READING

Intro to Lake Baikal and lakes:

Mogolov, L.S. 2017. The Soul of Siberia at Risk. Wellesley Magazine. p.16-22.

Moore, M.V., S.E. Hampton, L.R. Izmest’eva, E.A. Silow, E.V. Peshkova, and B. Pavlov. 2009. Climate change and the world’s ‘Sacred Sea’ – Lake Baikal, Siberia. BioScience 59:405-417

Thomson, P. 2007. Sacred Sea: A Journey to Lake Baikal, Oxford University Press. 320 p.

Vincent, W.F. 2018.

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undefined - PRESSURISED: 022 - Live-streaming the deep with Kasey Cantwell

PRESSURISED: 022 - Live-streaming the deep with Kasey Cantwell

Our short and to the point PRESSURISED version of episode 22. If you don't have time for the full episode and want to get right to the science without any of our waffle, this is the place to be!

Read the show notes and find the full episode here:

https://www.armatusoceanic.com/podcast/022-dive-streaming

One of the most exciting parts of our job is going to places that no one has ever been before and seeing things that no one has ever seen. It turns out, we were making that far harder than it needs to be, we can do all this from home! Several of the big names in deep-sea exploration live-stream (or dive-stream if we’re being cute). With just a few seconds delay, you can see deep-sea exploration as it happens and may be present for very significant finds. You never know what you’re going to find down there.

The big players in this space are the Schmidt Ocean Institute, Nautilus Live from the Ocean Exploration Trust and Ocean Exploration/Okeanos Explorer from NOAA. We are lucky enough to chat with Kasey Cantwell, the Operations Chief of the NOAA Ocean Exploration Expeditions and Exploration Division. We talk about the amazing opportunities this new way of doing science presents. From allowing 300 experts to take part, to swapping out your expert team when you find something unexpected and even the physical and societal barriers that can be removed. But it’s not just about getting science done, it’s about sharing these experiences with everyone. Online communities are forming around these streams and illustrations, poetry and memes are just as valid outputs.

Check out our podcast merch! Please do send in any pics of you wearing the merch. We find the idea of real people in the actual world wearing this so surreal!

Feel free to get in touch with us with questions or you own tales from the high seas on:

[email protected]

We are also on

Twitter: @ArmatusO

Facebook: ArmatusOceanic

Instagram: @armatusoceanic

Read the show notes and find out more about us at:

www.armatusoceanic.com

Glossary

AUV – Autonomous Underwater Vehicle

Berth – Beds available onboard a ship basically

Manganese nodule – potato shaped balls of metal that form on the seabed, the focus of deep-sea mining

ROV – Remotely Operated Vehicle

Taxonomist – A specialist in categorising a specific group of species.

Telepresence – Live-streaming what you’re doing on the internet

Links

Start dive-streaming yourself!

NOAA Ocean Exploration

Schmidt Ocean Institute

Nautilus Live

Become part of the online community!

Livestream Oceanographic Discord

Look out for expedition names as hashtags on Twitter

Credits

Theme – Hadal Zone Express by Märvel

Logo image - The Deep-Sea Podcast PRESSURISED Logo

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undefined - PRESSURISED: 047 - The depths of Lake Baikal with Marianne Moore

PRESSURISED: 047 - The depths of Lake Baikal with Marianne Moore

Our short and to the point PRESSURISED version of episode 47. If you don't have time for the full episode and want to get right to the science without any of our waffle, this is the place to be!

Read the show notes and find the full episode here:

https://www.armatusoceanic.com/podcast/047-baikal

Located in southern Siberia and covered in thick ice for almost half of the year, the colossal Lake Baikal reaches depths of 1600m making it the oldest, and deepest lake in the world. With hydrothermal vents, methane seeps and vast swathes of endemic species, this ancient lake was too tempting not to talk about.

We speak with Professor Marianne Moore, a Limnologist who has been working on the lake for over 2 decades. She guides us through its incredible ecosystems and species such as the world's only freshwater seal, deep water insects and foot-long flatworms!

We’re really trying to make this project self-sustaining so we have started looking for ways to support the podcast. Here’s a link to our page on how to support us, from the free options to becoming a patron of the show. We want to say a huge thank you to those patrons who have already pledged to support us!

Thanks again for tuning in, we’ll deep-see you next time!

Check out our podcast merch here! Which now includes Alan’s beloved apron and a much anticipated new design...

Feel free to get in touch with us with questions or your own tales from the high seas on:

[email protected]

We’d love to actually play your voice so feel free to record a short audio note!

We are also on

Twitter: @DeepSeaPod, @ArmatusO

Facebook: DeepSeaPodcast, ArmatusOceanic

Instagram: @deepsea_podcast, @armatusoceanic

Keep up with the team on social media

Twitter:

Alan - @Hadalbloke (https://twitter.com/Hadalbloke)

Thom - @ThomLinley (https://twitter.com/ThomLinley)

Georgia - @geeinthesea (https://twitter.com/geeinthesea)

Instagram:

Georgia - @geeinthesea

Thom - @thom.linley

Read the show notes and find out more about us at:

www.armatusoceanic.com

FURTHER RESOURCES LAKE BAIKAL READING

Intro to Lake Baikal and lakes:

Mogolov, L.S. 2017. The Soul of Siberia at Risk. Wellesley Magazine. p.16-22.

Moore, M.V., S.E. Hampton, L.R. Izmest’eva, E.A. Silow, E.V. Peshkova, and B. Pavlov. 2009. Climate change and the world’s ‘Sacred Sea’ – Lake Baikal, Siberia. BioScience 59:405-417

Thomson, P. 2007. Sacred Sea: A Journey to Lake Baikal, Oxford University Press. 320 p.

Vincent, W.F. 2018. Lakes. A Very Short Introduction, Oxford University Press. 146 p.

Vents and seeps:

Crane, K., Hecker, B. and Golubev, V., 1991. Hydrothermal vents in Lake Baikal. Nature, 350(6316), pp.281-281.

Zemskaya, T.I., Sitnikova, T.Y., Kiyashko, S.I., Kalmychkov, G.V., Pogodaeva, T.V., Mekhanikova, I.V., Naumova, T.V., Shubenkova, O.V., Chernitsina, S.M., Kotsar, O.V. and Chernyaev, E.S., 2012. Faunal communities at sites of gas-and oil- bearing fluids in Lake Baikal. Geo-Marine Letters, 32, pp.437-451.

Fish:

Sideleva, V.G. 2003. The Endemic Fishes of Lake Baikal. Backhuys Publishers.

Sideleva, V.G. 2004. Mysterious Fish of Lake Baikal. Science First Hand 3:N2. (Note: ‘black umber’ and ‘white umber’, mentioned in this article, are two endemic varieties of the Siberian grayling Thyma...

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