
'The Interview': Bill Murray Says He's Not the Man He Used to Be
04/05/25 • 51 min
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Fear and Fury: The Fallout From Trump’s Tariffs
The reverberations from President Trump’s new global tariffs have rocked financial markets and world capitals. American stocks have plunged, and foreign leaders have issued forceful condemnations.
The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Peter Goodman, Natalie Kitroeff and Jeanna Smialek sit down to try to make sense of Mr. Trump’s strategy and its consequences.
Guest:
- Peter S. Goodman, who covers the global economy for The New York Times.
- Natalie Kitroeff, the Mexico City bureau chief for The New York Times.
- Jeanna Smialek, the Brussels bureau chief for The New York Times.
Background reading:
- Read about how Mr. Trump’s one-for-one tariff plan threatens the global economy.
- The trade war set off “max pessimism” in the global markets.
- The tariffs have widened the chasm between allies and Washington.
For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.
Photo: Scott McIntyre for The New York Times
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The Sunday Read: ‘What Happened to Val Kilmer?’
“The force of his will is the thing I remember about him,” says Taffy Brodesser-Akner, who wrote a profile of Val Kilmer for The New York Times Magazine in May 2020. “He was sure he was going to come back to his exact former self. ”
The two met for an interview just as a lockdown due to the coronavirus pandemic seemed all but certain to happen.
Mr. Kilmer, who was diagnosed with throat cancer in 2014 and had undergone a tracheotomy, was still performing. Mr. Brodesser-Akner credits him with providing “the first whiff of overarching hope and positivity that I’d witnessed in I couldn’t remember how many months.”
“What does somebody do when the thing that they are known for, which is being a superhero, which is being an action hero, which is being handsome, which is being this sort of picture of good health and vigor, what do you do next?” she said. “And a lot of people, they fade away. But that’s not how it went for Val. ”
Mr. Kilmer, who played classic roles such as Batman and Iceman in “Top Gun,” died on Tuesday in Los Angeles. He was 65.
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