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The Chicken Mind Nuggets's Podcast - Ep.12 Bootcamp

Ep.12 Bootcamp

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04/03/20 • 7 min

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The Chicken Mind Nuggets's Podcast

Chicken Mind Nuggets.

Hosted by Wifey

Chickenmindnuggets.com

[email protected]

@mindchicken

References for this episode

https://massivesci.com/articles/glia-brain-giving-up-vr-neurons-quitting-astrocytes/

Introduction music graciously provided by

Music from https://filmmusic.io
"Thinking Music" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Show script: (may differ slightly from spoken word)

Your one two.........3 and 4............your one two THREE AND FOUR...

I hated hearing this when we marched. Our RDC’s threw in clever, “I’m a shitbag,” type sayings into the cadences which we had to repeat. Marching down roads proclaiming you’re a shit bag was fucked up then, but funny now. I was in berthing and someone got in trouble for something stupid, so we all had to do jumping jacks, 8 counts, and pushups in our Navy dress blues, you know the ones that make any guy look like a military stud muffin and any female look like a flight attendant? We did that for 45 minutes. Another jerk got in trouble for something and we had to hold a pen out at arms-length between two fingers while reciting the blue jacket’s paragraph of discipline.... for an hour and a half. I got my wisdom teeth removed in this bootcamp and some dumbass got in trouble for something and we all had to work out for 45 minutes again. This time I was bleeding all over myself from my wisdom teeth removal while my RDC’s watched blood drip down my white shirt and onto the floor. They didn’t care, but they cared enough that if I passed out, I would go to the doctor then probably get yelled at. Getting yelled at is a caring thing in the military....at least that is what I was indoctrinated to believe.

Bootcamp will tear you down and that’s exactly what it is supposed to do. You go in as you, but YOU are standing in a silent line with everyone else until you are led to a weird dark room where you get naked and change with the other YOU’s into fucked up newbie gear, and then you are led, and marched, and yelled at, and controlled, and verbally beaten, and emotionally beaten, and marched into something that gives up and just listens. It’s sometimes easier to do what your told right? If you have no choice, and you can’t fight back, you give up. That’s what boot camp wants you to do.

You can’t give up mid bootcamp. You’re going to get back on that track and run your 45-minute sustained mile when you are hurting so bad you would rather cut your arm off. You’re going to march and say cadences which you don’t believe in for weeks. You’re going to eat bad food, shower with strangers, wake up several times a night to stand a door watch, and start to believe that you are a piece of shit, and do it until you graduate.

The wanting to give up is an animalistic instinct that we have in order to conserve energy for vital processes. If we have a goal, we follow through, until we don’t, because we give up if we don’t see our efforts leading towards our outcome. Researchers used zebra fish to manipulate their environment to make them believe that their goal of swimming was unachievable by putting them in a VR type world where they believed they were swimming backwards, therefore never getting anywhere. I HATE animal testing, and I’m cringing with you, but just bear with me. The researchers used a virtual reality behavioral assembly to monitor paralyzed fish’s motor output using electrophysiology and found that when a fish believes it is swimming normal, its neural output shows normal activity. However, if the fish believes it is not swimming, it will put forth a ton of effort and then give up. The giving up is what the researchers called futility induced passivity. The fish’s brain activity showed that they went active, then passive, then active, just like they kept trying and then giving up. The non-neuronal cells called glia in the central nervous system which are little star shaped cells that were once thought of as not important actually help to control the neurotransmitters and synapses in the brain. The astrocytes, a type of glia, in these fish, activate right before the fish was about to give up. So right before the fish said, “fuck it, I’m not swimming,” their little glia spiked in activation, then futility induced passivity kicked in.

In bootcamp, you can’t run away, actually you can but you’re going to get into a ton of trouble for it. You generally choose to go to bootcamp and once you’re in, you pretty much want out. You see the final outcome and know that it is worth it, but any resistance you have is met with hostility and that breaking down will eventually get you to say, “fuck it, I’m not swimming,” and switch you into futility induced passivity mode. Think if all of the fish of a colony thought for themselves and each decid...

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Chicken Mind Nuggets.

Hosted by Wifey

Chickenmindnuggets.com

[email protected]

@mindchicken

References for this episode

https://massivesci.com/articles/glia-brain-giving-up-vr-neurons-quitting-astrocytes/

Introduction music graciously provided by

Music from https://filmmusic.io
"Thinking Music" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Show script: (may differ slightly from spoken word)

Your one two.........3 and 4............your one two THREE AND FOUR...

I hated hearing this when we marched. Our RDC’s threw in clever, “I’m a shitbag,” type sayings into the cadences which we had to repeat. Marching down roads proclaiming you’re a shit bag was fucked up then, but funny now. I was in berthing and someone got in trouble for something stupid, so we all had to do jumping jacks, 8 counts, and pushups in our Navy dress blues, you know the ones that make any guy look like a military stud muffin and any female look like a flight attendant? We did that for 45 minutes. Another jerk got in trouble for something and we had to hold a pen out at arms-length between two fingers while reciting the blue jacket’s paragraph of discipline.... for an hour and a half. I got my wisdom teeth removed in this bootcamp and some dumbass got in trouble for something and we all had to work out for 45 minutes again. This time I was bleeding all over myself from my wisdom teeth removal while my RDC’s watched blood drip down my white shirt and onto the floor. They didn’t care, but they cared enough that if I passed out, I would go to the doctor then probably get yelled at. Getting yelled at is a caring thing in the military....at least that is what I was indoctrinated to believe.

Bootcamp will tear you down and that’s exactly what it is supposed to do. You go in as you, but YOU are standing in a silent line with everyone else until you are led to a weird dark room where you get naked and change with the other YOU’s into fucked up newbie gear, and then you are led, and marched, and yelled at, and controlled, and verbally beaten, and emotionally beaten, and marched into something that gives up and just listens. It’s sometimes easier to do what your told right? If you have no choice, and you can’t fight back, you give up. That’s what boot camp wants you to do.

You can’t give up mid bootcamp. You’re going to get back on that track and run your 45-minute sustained mile when you are hurting so bad you would rather cut your arm off. You’re going to march and say cadences which you don’t believe in for weeks. You’re going to eat bad food, shower with strangers, wake up several times a night to stand a door watch, and start to believe that you are a piece of shit, and do it until you graduate.

The wanting to give up is an animalistic instinct that we have in order to conserve energy for vital processes. If we have a goal, we follow through, until we don’t, because we give up if we don’t see our efforts leading towards our outcome. Researchers used zebra fish to manipulate their environment to make them believe that their goal of swimming was unachievable by putting them in a VR type world where they believed they were swimming backwards, therefore never getting anywhere. I HATE animal testing, and I’m cringing with you, but just bear with me. The researchers used a virtual reality behavioral assembly to monitor paralyzed fish’s motor output using electrophysiology and found that when a fish believes it is swimming normal, its neural output shows normal activity. However, if the fish believes it is not swimming, it will put forth a ton of effort and then give up. The giving up is what the researchers called futility induced passivity. The fish’s brain activity showed that they went active, then passive, then active, just like they kept trying and then giving up. The non-neuronal cells called glia in the central nervous system which are little star shaped cells that were once thought of as not important actually help to control the neurotransmitters and synapses in the brain. The astrocytes, a type of glia, in these fish, activate right before the fish was about to give up. So right before the fish said, “fuck it, I’m not swimming,” their little glia spiked in activation, then futility induced passivity kicked in.

In bootcamp, you can’t run away, actually you can but you’re going to get into a ton of trouble for it. You generally choose to go to bootcamp and once you’re in, you pretty much want out. You see the final outcome and know that it is worth it, but any resistance you have is met with hostility and that breaking down will eventually get you to say, “fuck it, I’m not swimming,” and switch you into futility induced passivity mode. Think if all of the fish of a colony thought for themselves and each decid...

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Chicken Mind Nuggets.

Hosted by Wifey

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[email protected]

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References for this episode

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/emotionally-extreme-experiences-not-just-positive-or-negative-experiences-are-more-meaningful-in-life/

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"Thinking Music" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Show script: (may differ slightly from spoken word)

This is an excerpt from a real conversation with a friend. We will call him Dave.

I moved out here for her. I HAD a good job. I didn’t have to come in until 9 and I took lunch at 11. I went home, came back in at 1 and left around 3. I was a supervisor and worked my way up from being an operator. I had that job for over 20 years and you know what I did? I answered phone calls and directed people to the people they needed to talk to. We had a big house, I knew the area, I didn’t like it, but I was comfortable. I had friends and stability. It wasn’t supposed to be like this, we weren’t supposed to separate, and you know what? I tried, I really tried. I offered marriage counseling and I tried just shutting up and letting her speak, but the second I open my mouth she starts with, “there you go again, always blaming me,” before I could get a word out! You know what, she said she is going out drinking with her friends the other day and I said ok, have a good time. When I told her I wanted to drive around and explore the area because I’m new, you know what she said? She said, “your gonna cheat on me, your gonna go to the strip club and get with other girls.” I was like, where are you getting this from? I just wanted to explore the area! Now she’s locked me out of the apartment. I had to call the police just to get my stuff back and now I’m living in a hotel and I’m gonna go broke if I don’t find something else. I’m going apartment shopping soon; I can’t do this anymore. It wasn’t supposed to be like this!

  • Why wasn’t it supposed to be like this?

Because we were supposed to stay together and you know what? I’m in my 50’s and this is my second marriage and I’m tired of being married. I got kids, I got grandkids, and I just want to go home and not be accused of something that I didn’t do!

  • Dave, if you stayed in this relationship, then that’s how it was supposed to be? With you miserable with her?

No......I just didn’t expect this you know?

  • I understand. But if everything happens for a reason, then you are always where you need to be. Could you have stayed with her any longer with what she was doing to you?

No, I hated it! I don’t want to rebuild again. I’m old, I’m tired.

  • Dave, what happens to old buildings when they fall down?

They build a new one..................................oh. I get it.

There is evidence to suggest that meaning is correlated to positive emotions which someone would equate to having a meaningful life. Like those YouTubers who travel constantly and tell you to bullet journal and find your purpose or find your meaning, because these temporary moments of exhilaration will make your life meaningful. The problem with this assumption is that happiness isn’t lasting, it’s momentary and the craving to have a meaningful life is tied in the fear of being on your deathbed and not having one. There is a perspective called meaning-making which uses the word meaning to define how we handle stressful situations. Both views – the positive emotion perspective and the meaning-making perspective, parallel the same road to conclusion – the outcome of your experience. This outcome, either happy or meaningful, is based on your perspective of how things turned out. Dave wanted to be happy, but his divorce from his wife will turn out to be a meaning-making shift for him if down the road he realizes he is better because of the situation. Most people have a positive emotion or a meaning-making outlook, and this plays a huge factor on the meaning of life. Neither is better than the other, and both leave the subject matter with a smile on their face with a, “that was worth it,” feeling. At the end when we are on our death bed, will it be the vacations, travel, experiences, and laughter, or the overcoming, the recovery, the moving past and moving forward that we went through that will finally define what meaning means to us?

If you have enjoyed this podcast, please follow me on twitter @mindchicken or visit chickenmindnuggets.com

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Hosted by Wifey

Chickenmindnuggets.com

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@mindchicken

References for this episode

https://www.pom-melbourne.com/blog/just-like-me-feeling-compassion-for-me-and-all

Introduction music graciously provided by

Music from https://filmmusic.io
"Thinking Music" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com)
License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Show script: (may differ slightly from spoken word)

Everyone is a teacher. Pema Chodron has a beautiful saying which she uses and teaches to help with anger and it’s called, “just like me.” Here’s what you do, you’re in traffic and the lady in front of you is honking her horn and trying to aggressively weave into another lane because she is in a hurry. You angry and in a rush too, just like me. Your friend slams the refrigerator door shut and is aggravated over the phone with the customer service representative who can’t understand her language. You have been there before......just like me. You are at the sandwich counter and you see a guy in front of you holding up the line because he doesn’t know what he wants. You have been indecisive before.......just like me. You see a mom carrying her screaming baby down the supermarket isle while she is pushing a cart of sugary cereals. Your parent’s did what they could for you too when you were a screaming baby.....just like me. You go to the doctor and a sick man in front of you complains about the cost of his visit that insurance won’t cover. You’ve been tight on money before too.....just like me. You go to the DMV to get your car registered and the lady at the counter is aggravated that she doesn’t have all of the paperwork. You have been forgetful before too......just like me. You see a news story where a family lost their house from a tornado and everyone is crying that there is nothing left. You have lost something meaningful to you too......just like me. Your kid comes home from school and said he was picked on by a bigger guy and is mad and wants to punch him in the face. You have been made fun of before too and have felt small and insignificant.....just like me. Your partner has a bad couple of weeks at work and has not paid as much attention to you as you want. You have also had a bad streak in life and needed to pull away to not hurt anyone so you can return more loving......just like me. Your neighbor is screaming at their kids that they need to get into the car or they will be late for the party. You have been late before......just like me. You sit in self-guilt because you believe that you are not worth it, that you are stupid, that what you did is unforgivable and people don’t respect you. Everyone has made bad decisions, but as long as we learn from them they are good and you can move on.....just like me.

If you have enjoyed this podcast, please follow me on twitter @mindchicken, or leave a review on iTunes, listen to anywhere you listen to podcasts, or visit chickenmindnuggets.com

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