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Cory Webster on 9th Cir updates
The California Appellate Law Podcast
07/04/23 • 55 min
9th Circuit expert Cory Webster joins us to discuss several recent decisions out of the 9th Circuit. On this episode, we discuss:
- The Jack Daniels case: when binding precedent barred relief, Jack Daniels (and its savvy appellate team) moved for summary affirmance (you read that right) to get to the Supreme Court, which reversed in a unanimous decision.
- The dormant-commerce-clause case in which the 9th Circuit—with unlikely help from Justice Thomas—upheld a California statute that could affect pork production nationally.
- The Gap case, which demonstrates how the makeup of the 11-judge en banc pool drawn from the 29-judge circuit make a big difference.
- the Slack Tech. v. Pirani case, where a visiting district judge cast the deciding vote that created a circuit split—and precipitated a Supreme Court reversal setting binding precedent.
- When Judge Watford retired following a split decision, a petition for panel review is probably going to require filling the open slot on the panel—which could change the outcome.
Cory Webster’s biography and LinkedIn profile.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Not To Be Published, Tim Kowal’s weekly legal update, or view his blog of recent cases.
The California Appellate Law Podcast thanks Casetext for sponsoring the podcast. Listeners receive a discount on Casetext Basic Research at casetext.com/CALP. The co-hosts, Jeff and Tim, were also invited to try Casetext’s newest technology, CoCounsel, the world’s first AI legal assistant. You can discover CoCounsel for yourself with a demo and free trial at casetext.com/CoCounsel.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- Perry v. Kia Motors
- Jack Daniel’s and what to do when binding precedent squarely forecloses your position. Cory’s LinkedIn post. Jack Daniels Properties, Inc. v. VIP Products, LLC.
- Ninth Circuit en banc—29 votes vs. 11 judges on the en banc panel. Cory’s LinkedIn post. Lee (The Gap) v. Fisher et al. (9th tCir. Jun. 1, 2023) No. 21-15923.
- Visiting judge’s dissent vindicated by SCOTUS: Slack Techs. v. Pirani (Jun. 1, 2023). One trial court judge sitting by designation can be the deciding vote setting binding circuit precedent (and the reason a case goes to the Supreme Court). Cory’s LinkedIn post.
- What happens when a member of your panel leaves the court after a decision but before finality. Cory’s LinkedIn post. Kelsey v. Garrett (9th Cir. May 24, 2023) No. 22-15557.
- The case that saved the McRib: National Pork Producers Council v. Ross (May 11, 2023) National Pork Producers—Ninth Circuit angle. Cory’s LinkedIn post.
- Videos from this episode will be posted at Tim Kowal’s YouTube channel.
How Legal Tech is Leveling the Legal Playing Field, with Casetext Co-Founder Pablo Arredondo
The California Appellate Law Podcast
06/15/22 • 48 min
The Co-Founder of Casetext, Pablo Arredondo, explains how legal technology that is available today will allow solos and small firms to compete against Big Law. Tim and Jeff talk with Pablo about:
- Why Artificial Intelligence—which didn’t work well for a long time—now makes it much, much easier to find the legal authority you’re looking for.
- The searches you are used to making is just “casual Friday in the keyword prison.” But now, you can put real English sentences into Casetext’s Parallel Search and it works.
- Casetext’s A.I. isn’t limited to legal authority: you’ll be able to put your entire case file into a database and search for the evidence that supports the key facts in your case.
- This gives small firms an alternative to deploying armies of staff to find evidence in a voluminous file.
- Using Casetext’s Compose to create a first draft of a brief in a few minutes.
- A.I. might be able to replicate “murder boards” in the future for attorneys preparing for oral argument.
- In fact, the way “neural net” A.I. works is so impressive, Pablo describes it as a “black box,” and sometimes it is hard to describe what it does without using words like “thinking.”
Pablo Arredondo’s biography and LinkedIn profile.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Sign up for Tim Kowal’s Weekly Legal Update, or view his blog of recent cases.
Use this link to get a 25% lifetime discount on Casetext.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- Casetext
- Parallel Search
- Compose
- Genius Makers, by Cade Metz
- LexisNexis’s LexMachina analytics platform
The Eviction Problem, with Tenant’s Rights Attorney Eric Post
The California Appellate Law Podcast
08/02/22 • 45 min
“The incentives are out of whack,” says Eric Post, a tenant’s rights attorney with BASTA, Inc. The past two years have seen a dramatic increase in evictions, he says. Why? Because that is the simplest way to raise the rent.
Eric talks with Jeff Lewis and Tim Kowal about the flaws in California’s landlord-tenant legal system, the near-impossibility of staying eviction judgments pending appeal, and the important differences between appeals in the appellate division and the Court of Appeal.
Eric also explains why it can be fairly easy to forum shop a case up to unlimited civil.
Finally, the discussion turns to Judge Carter’s bold effort to solve a piece of the Los Angeles homeless problem via injunction, though ultimately reversed by the 9th Circuit last year.
Eric Post’s LinkedIn profile.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Sign up for Tim Kowal’s Weekly Legal Update, or view his blog of recent cases.
Receive a 25% lifetime discount on Casetext at CaseText.com/CALP.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- BASTA, Inc.
- Episode 18 with tenant’s rights attorney Fran Campbell.
- Tim’s post on Judge David Carter’s homelessness injunction overturned by the 9th Circuit: $1 Billion LA Homelessness Injunction Reversed by 9th Circuit: Judge's Independent Factual Investigation Was Improper
Unlocking Your Case Theme at Oral Argument: Jeff Markowitz with a Minnesota Perspective on Appeals
The California Appellate Law Podcast
04/11/23 • 61 min
You have just about 15-30 seconds at oral argument before the panel is likely to interrupt you. How will you use that time? Minnesota appellate attorney Jeff Markowitz says you should be unlocking that key point that allows the rest of your case to unfold. If you haven’t discovered that point by the time of oral argument and distilled it to an elevator pitch, you’re likely squandering your opportunity.
Jeff also explains why you’re likely squandering prime real estate in your brief by roadmapping your arguments. Your headings should be doing that already. Instead, use the introduction to develop your case theme.
Then we compare Minnesota and California appellate procedure:
👉 Unlike in CA, in MN the Supreme Court sets the rules of civil procedure.
👉 Unlike in CA, MN courts always have a court reporter available.
👉 Unlike in CA, MN doesn’t have a “we don’t talk about Bruno” approach to unpublished opinions. They’re not binding, but you can cite them.
👉 Unlike in CA, MN gives a 30-day initial stay of judgment enforcement.
Jeff Markowitz’s biography, and LinkedIn profile.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Not To Be Published, Tim Kowal’s weekly legal update, or view his blog of recent cases.
Use this link to get a 25% lifetime discount on Casetext.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- ‘Published’ and ‘Unpublished’ Revisited, by Jeff Markowitz and Stephen Warner, available at https://www.arthurchapman.com/files/original/Published and Unpublished Revisited Article_JMM_SMW1.pdf.
- Videos from this episode will be posted at Tim Kowal’s YouTube channel.
Thankful for Unpublished Opinions
The California Appellate Law Podcast
11/21/23 • 36 min
In a recent opinion, the Court of Appeal reversed by noting that one of the grounds supporting the judgment was forfeited...by the respondent.
Wait. By the respondent? An appellant must be careful not to forfeit argument, but not the respondent. We discuss, and express gratitude that this one was not published—and thus cannot be cited as precedent.
We also discuss:
- Have a short trial? Volunteer to be timekeeper. Otherwise, your request for a statement of decision may be deemed untimely under the strict rules for trials under 8 hours.
- Suing for unfair business practices? Double check standing based on “injury in fact,” and consider the conflicting arguments in the majority and dissent in Lagrisola v. North American.
- Opposing counsel stepping over the line of “zealous advocacy”? Court of Appeal calls out counsel in a recent case, but no sanctions—perhaps because respondent did not file a motion?
- A strange example of a moot appeal leading to a summary REVERSAL.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Not To Be Published, Tim Kowal’s weekly legal update, or view his blog of recent cases.
The California Appellate Law Podcast thanks Casetext for sponsoring the podcast. Listeners receive a discount on Casetext Basic Research at casetext.com/CALP. The co-hosts, Jeff and Tim, were also invited to try Casetext’s newest technology, CoCounsel, the world’s first AI legal assistant. You can discover CoCounsel for yourself with a demo and free trial at casetext.com/CoCounsel.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- **Can a respondent forfeit issues by failing to brief them? A bizarre opinion says yes. Baltazar v. ACE Parking Mgmt. (D4d1 Oct. 26, 2023 No. D081483) [nonpub. opn.]
- **Failing to log the length of trial leads to appellate loss. Lewis v. Reptile Factory, LLC (D2d3 Oct. 12, 2023 No. B324197) [nonpub. opn.]
- Dissent would invalidate loan where lender is unlicensed. Lagrisola v. North American (D4d1 Nov. 3, 2023 No. D080758)
- **“Bulldozer” advocacy moves dirt but not minds. Tedesco v. White (D4d3 Oct. 27, 2023 No. G061197) [nonpub. opn.]
- **Where a moot appeal means summary REVERSAL. People v. Pickens (D2d7 Nov. 9, 2023 No. B320704) [nonpub. opn.]
- Videos from this episode will be posted at Tim Kowal’s YouTube channel.
Maxine Waters’ SLAPP, 5pm Filing Deadline, “Snitch Rule” & More Recent Legal News
The California Appellate Law Podcast
06/06/23 • 40 min
Our regular roundup of noteworthy appellate decisions and legal news includes these stories:
⚠Did a Covid-era jury cut short its deliberations (to just one hour) because it wanted to get out of the cramped jury room? Plaintiff thought so, but did not make a record of having raised a timely objection. Held: Objection forfeited.
⚠Did the failure to raise an affirmative defense in a joint pretrial order forfeit that defense? The 9th Circuit held it did, but Judge Bumatay thought it was raised indirectly and the lack of a more explicit assertion did not prejudice the plaintiff.
🤚Suit against Maxine Waters for falsely saying her opponent was “dishonorably discharged” may go forward: evidence that Waters was shown a military document refuting her charge, and Waters’ failure to conduct any other investigation, supported plaintiff’s showing of actual malice for purposes of defeating the anti-SLAPP motion.
📃Record defect resulted in California Court of Appeal resulted in affirmative via a rare “memorandum decision.”
✉60-day deadline to appeal is not triggered by file-stamped order unless it attaches a proof of service.
🗣New snitch rule would impose a mandatory duty to report violations of other lawyers.
👩⚖️Oral arguments at U.S. Supreme Court run long by average of 30 minutes.
💼Supreme Court makes it easier to preserve issues raised in summary judgment motions in Dupree v. Younger.
🛑Federal courts to wind down remote access as US COVID emergency ends.
🕔3d. Circuit to impose 5:00 p.m. filing deadline.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Not To Be Published, Tim Kowal’s weekly legal update, or view his blog of recent cases.
The California Appellate Law Podcast thanks Casetext for sponsoring the podcast. Listeners receive a discount on Casetext Basic Research at casetext.com/CALP. The co-hosts, Jeff and Tim, were also invited to try Casetext’s newest technology, CoCounsel, the world’s first AI legal assistant. You can discover CoCounsel for yourself with a demo and free trial at casetext.com/CoCounsel.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- Perry v. Kia Motors
- Defense not asserted in a pretrial order deemed forfeited in split 9th Cir. decision ( Ivie v. Astrazenica Pharmaceuticals LP)
- What is actual malice? Maxine Waters SLAPP case
- Lack of record leads affirmance by memorandum decision
- Order was file-stamped, but did not attach the POS, so it did not trigger the 60-day deadline to appeal
- New snitch rule proposal as the state bar. Cal Bar<
Liar in a Crowded Theater, with Jeff Kosseff
The California Appellate Law Podcast
11/29/23 • 50 min
Turns out you CAN shout “fire” in a crowded theater, and lots of other lies besides—unless the government meets a heavy burden, that is. The author of four books and more than 20 academic articles, First Amendment scholar and Naval Academy associate professor Jeff Kosseff makes the case for the freedom to speak freely, and even to tell lies, free (mostly) from threat of state sanction. Our discussion covers:
- The “marketplace of ideas” is better than the government at separating truth from lies.
- Why every other state and Congress should just copy-and-paste California’s anti-SLAPP statute into their code books.
- Is there a free-speech right to ChatGPT, if there’s no human speaker? Yes—there is not just a right to make statements, but also to receive them.
- Jeff was surprised at the critical reaction to his thesis that there may be a right to lie. But thankfully the courts have mostly stood by the First Amendment’s robust protections, receiving an B+/A- grade from Prof. Kosseff.
Jeff Kosseff’s biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Not To Be Published, Tim Kowal’s weekly legal update, or view his blog of recent cases.
The California Appellate Law Podcast thanks Casetext for sponsoring the podcast. Listeners receive a discount on Casetext Basic Research at casetext.com/CALP. The co-hosts, Jeff and Tim, were also invited to try Casetext’s newest technology, CoCounsel, the world’s first AI legal assistant. You can discover CoCounsel for yourself with a demo and free trial at casetext.com/CoCounsel.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- Jeff Kosseff’s book is Liar in a Crowded Theater.
- The California statute prohibiting doctors from expressing opinions contrary to official medical policy as concerning vaccines and perhaps other topics was enjoined by the district court in early 2023: https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/california-law-aiming-curb-covid-misinformation-blocked-by-judge-2023-01-26/.
- Videos from this episode will be posted at Tim Kowal’s YouTube channel.
The Lawyer Who Reversed the “Victory Bell” Case, with Brooke Bove
The California Appellate Law Podcast
11/01/22 • 50 min
If you were a lawyer drawing breath in summer 2022, you heard about the “victory bell” case. A prominent defense attorney, returning to base camp with a stunning victory after defensing a medical malpractice case, rang his firm’s victory bell and announced, the victim “was probably negligently killed, but we kind of made it look like other people did it.” The comment was captured on video, and the internet did its thing.
A common hot-take was that the video would undo the verdict. But many appellate attorneys scoffed: an attorney’s puff talk after trial, the cooler heads responded, is not a trial irregularity.
Enter Brooke Bove, who wrote the successful new-trial motion in Garcia v. Quraishi that got the judgment vacated. Brooke gives an insider look at trial, and why the defense attorneys reference to an empty chair particularly galled the trial judge.
Bove, an Army communications specialist before becoming an appellate attorney, shares her insights into the case and what is coming next, as well as top legal tips and strategies.
Brooke Bove’s biography and LinkedIn profile.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Tim Kowal’s Weekly Legal Update, or view his blog of recent cases.
Use this link to get a 25% lifetime discount on Casetext.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- Episode 42 discussing the “victory bell” case, Garcia v. Quraishi.
- The LA Times article on the “victory bell “case.
- The Lawterature Podcast
- Peace Like a River by Leif Enger.
“They Don’t Laugh at My Jokes Anymore.” Justice Lambden’s Lessons from the Trenches to the Benches and Back
The California Appellate Law Podcast
09/20/22 • 67 min
As a consensus-maker, Justice James Lambden never published a dissent in his 17 years on the Court of Appeal for the First District, despite sitting between two indomitable personalities in Justice J. Anthony Kline (Gov. Jerry Brown’s legal affairs secretary) and Justice Paul Hearle (Gov. Ronald Reagan’s appointments secretary). Justice Lambden explains why attorneys should direct their briefs to the justice “in the catbird seat,” and what it was like sitting in the catbird seat.
Justice Lambden also talks about his single unpublished dissent.
Justice Lambden also talks about his time as a judge on the Alameda County Superior Court, the great outdoors, finding and wearing a good hat, and what it’s like for judges to transition to private judging: “Going back out among the bar without wearing the robe is kind of intimidating. Like they say, they don’t laugh at my jokes anymore.”
Justice Lambden serves up a lot of sage advice:
- “Litigation is not like preparing for a battle, it’s more like going on an expedition ... like taking a trip across the mountains and encountering different places where you have to do different things.”
- Hire your appellate attorney before the verdict!
- Have an elevator-pitch for your case. If you only have arguments but no theme, you’re not ready.
- On unpublished opinions: Who cares? The California Court of Appeal is not bound even by published decisions, as there is no horizontal stare decisis in our system. If you find good reasoning, use it: if the good argument comes from a published case, make the argument, and cite it. If the good argument comes from an unpublished case, make the argument, but don’t cite it. In either event, it’s not the best citation but the best argument that wins. (This reminds me of Johannes Scotus: “Authority sometimes proceeds from reason, but reason never from authority....We should not allege the opinions of the holy Fathers ... unless it be necessary thereby to strengthen arguments in the eyes of men who, unskillful in reasoning, yield rather to authority than to reason.”)
- On the importance of focus letters and oral argument.
- On access to justice, quoting Chief Justice Ronald George: “Without access, there is no justice.”
Justice James Lambden’s biography.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Tim Kowal’s Weekly Legal Update, or view his blog of recent cases.
Use this link to get a 25% lifetime discount on Casetext.
End the Bar Exam? with Jackie Gardina
The California Appellate Law Podcast
12/17/24 • 46 min
Jackie Gardina shares dispatches from the Blue Ribbon Commission on reforming the Bar Exam, covering recent reforms, the ongoing debate about the exam’s effectiveness, and the rise of alternative pathways to legal licensure. Some takeaways:
- 💯 Yes, the passing score was dropped—but don’t worry, the old one was picked out of a hat (basically).
- 🗯️“End the bar exam?! But that’s how it’s always been done!” Nope. Before that there were was the “diploma privilege” model, and before that the apprenticeship model.
- 🔍 What are other states doing? The mentorship model is in use in Oregon, Washington, and Nevada, and the diploma privilege model in Wisconsin.
Jackie Gardina biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Jeff Lewis' biography, LinkedIn profile, and Twitter feed.
Appellate Specialist Tim Kowal's biography, LinkedIn profile, Twitter feed, and YouTube page.
Sign up for Not To Be Published, Tim Kowal’s weekly legal update, or view his blog of recent cases.
Other items discussed in the episode:
- NCBE Study Aids Store: Offers various resources, including practice questions and study packs for the Multistate Bar Exam (MBE), Multistate Essay Exam (MEE), and Multistate Performance Test (MPT). Visit their store here: NCBE Study Aids Store
- NextGen Bar Exam Information: Provides details on the upcoming changes to the bar exam format, including sample questions and a timeline for implementation. Explore more here: NextGen Bar Exam
- You can find more information about the commission, its objectives, and updates on its activities on the State Bar of California’s website The State Bar of California
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The California Appellate Law Podcast currently has 154 episodes available.
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The average episode length on The California Appellate Law Podcast is 43 minutes.
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The first episode of The California Appellate Law Podcast was released on Jul 1, 2020.
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