
463: All about modals with Elaina Natario
05/13/25 • 36 min
Joël strikes up a dialogue with fellow thoughtboter Elaina Natario about the various use cases of modals.
Together they discuss their pros and cons, the dos and don’ts, their functionality and accessibility to the end user as well as the subtle differences you'll notice when compared to dialogs.
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Your guest for this week has been Elaina Natario and you host has been Joël Quenneville.
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Joël strikes up a dialogue with fellow thoughtboter Elaina Natario about the various use cases of modals.
Together they discuss their pros and cons, the dos and don’ts, their functionality and accessibility to the end user as well as the subtle differences you'll notice when compared to dialogs.
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The Sponsor for this episode has been Judoscale - Autoscale the Right Way. Check out the link for your free gift!
Your guest for this week has been Elaina Natario and you host has been Joël Quenneville.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: [email protected]
This has been a thoughtbot podcast.
Stay up to date by following us on social media - YouTube - LinkedIn - Mastodon - BlueSky
© 2025 thoughtbot, inc.
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Credit: Ad-read music by joystock.org
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462: Decomposition as a key developer skill with Steve Polito
Joël and Steve sit down to discuss the ins and outs of decomposition within their respective workflows and how they use it to their advantage when working on certain projects.
Together they look at working with vertical slices over other decomposition methods, when and how to break down code as efficiently as possible, and Joël lays out his three key principles that help him write code dubbed “The Triangle of Separation”.
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The Sponsor for this episode has been Judoscale - Autoscale the Right Way. Check out the link for your free gift!
Learn more about Joël’s triangle of separation and working with vertical slices!
Your guest this week has been Steve Polito, and your host for this episode has been thoughtbot’s own Joël Quenneville.
You can find Steve’s work over on GitHub, or dive into more of his thought processes over on his thoughtbot’s blogs.
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: [email protected]
This has been a thoughtbot podcast.
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Next Episode

464: Modelling the stars with Rémy Hannequin
Joël and Rémy draw inspiration from the stars as they discuss Rémy’s new open source Ruby gem, Astonoby.
Rémy reveals the challenges he faced in taking on this project, the scientific translation work that went into making it accessible for everyone, as well as the key lessons he learnt from modelling the cosmos.
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The Sponsor for this episode has been Judoscale - Autoscale the Right Way. Check out the link for your free gift!
If you’re enthusiastic about space and want to try out Rémy’s new gem tool, you can find it here. Alternatively you can read more about astronomical computing here.
Your host for this episode has been thoughtbot’s own Joël Quenneville and was accompanied by Rémy, who can be found over on LinkedIn, or through social media under the handle @rhannequin
If you would like to support the show, head over to our GitHub page, or check out our website.
Got a question or comment about the show? Why not write to our hosts: [email protected]
This has been a thoughtbot podcast.
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