
The Belt and Road Podcast
Erik Myxter-iino, Juliet Lu and Keren Zhu - edited by Taili Ni
A podcast that covers the latest news, research and analysis of China's growing presence in the developing world.
Co-Hosted by Erik Myxter-iino, Juliet Lu and Keren Zhu
Edited by Taili Ni
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How Chinese Capital Alters Center-Periphery Relations in Kenya - Elisa Gambino
The Belt and Road Podcast
07/31/20 • 36 min
How does Chinese capital alter center-periphery relations in Kenya?
Can peripheral groups have meaningful agency with Chinese state entities?
Who determines, and what is considered "local" in local content agreements built into Chinese-financed infrastructure projects?
On this Episode, Erik sits down Elisa Gambino to speak about her forthcoming paper entitled: "Chinese participation in Kenyan Transport Infrastructure: Reshaping Power-Geometries" that looks to answer these questions and more by using Kenya's Lamu Port as a case study.
Elisa Gambino is a doctoral researcher on the African Governance and Space project at the University of Edinburgh’s Centre of African Studies. You can read her prior writing on labor relations at the Lamu port here https://theasiadialogue.com/2020/02/26/job-insecurity-labour-contestation-and-everyday-resistance-at-the-chinese-built-lamu-port-site-in-kenya/
Recommendations:
Elisa: 1) Tales of Hope, Tastes of Bitterness by Miriam Driessen
2) Invisible China: A Journey Through Ethnic Borderlands by Colin Legerton and Jacob Rawson
Erik: 1) Putting a Dollar Amount on China's Loans in the Developing World by Huang Yufang and Deborah Brautigam
2) For the American audience: Moving to a mid-tier American city. They are more dynamic than coastal cities give them credit for and one can actually afford to live in them! Added bonus if you move to a swing state!
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Turning Off the Tap: Tensions between China and Downstream Neighbors over Dams and Drought
The Belt and Road Podcast
05/29/20 • 59 min
After a year of record breaking drought, the Mekong River water has level reached a historical low. Continued water stress, which is likely due to climate change, will permanently change the ecology of the region and water stress is already impacting the lives and livelihoods of millions of people across the region dependent upon the river. Proponents of hydrological dam development along the Mekong, which is primarily done by Chinese developers both in China and in downstream countries (Laos, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam), have emphasized the potential for dams to regulate water flow. But recent conditions have raised questions as to whether dams have exacerbated current water stress and how dams could be differently managed to relieve drought conditions. They also have galvanized calls for stronger mechanisms for transnational information sharing and governance - China currently considers water management data a state secret and does not consult downstream countries about the management of its domestic dams. Brian Eyler of the Stimson Center and Alan Basist of Eyes on Earth discuss with Erik Myxter-Iino the growing upstream/downstream river governance issues that have arisen as a result and the future environmental, socioeconomic, and political challenges raised.
Read related articles:
1. How China Turned off the Tap on the Mekong River (Brian Eyler, Stimson Center)
2. Science Shows Chinese Dams are Devastating the Mekong (Brian Eyler, Foreign Policy)
3. Understanding the Mekong's Hydrological Conditions (Alan Basist & Claude Williams, Mekong River Commission)
Recommendations
Brian
In the Dragon's Shadow: Southeast Asia in the Chinese Century by Sebastian Strangio
Erik
Capital & Ideology by Thomas Piketty
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Trans-Himalayan Power Corridors: A Grounded Analysis of Nepal/China relations - Dr. Galen Murton
The Belt and Road Podcast
04/22/20 • 44 min
On this episode, Erik and Juliet speak with Dr. Galen Murton - Assistant Professor at the School of Integrated Sciences at James Madison University - about how China is establishing infrastructure across one of the most unforgiving landscapes in the world. Along the border between Nepal and Tibet, transport and energy infrastructure development are transforming lives and forging a new paradigm of geopolitical engagement between China and its South Asian neighbors.
1) “Trans-Himalayan Power Corridors: Infrastructural Politics and China’s Belt and Road Initiative in Nepal."
2) “Facing the Fence: The Production and Performance of a Himalayan Border in Global Contexts.”
Recommendations:
Galen - Anything written about Nepal by Sam Cowan and Broughton Coburn
Juliet - Asymmetrical Neighbors: Borderland State Building between China and Southeast Asia by Enze Han
Erik - Wilmington's Lie: The Murderous Coup of 1898 and the Rise of White Supremacy by David Zucchino
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How Do Chinese Firms Approach Overseas Investment Risk? w/ Alvin Camba
The Belt and Road Podcast
09/28/21 • 51 min
On this episode Erik speaks with returning guest Dr. Alvin Camba about his latest research paper "How Chinese firms approach investment risk: strong leaders, cancellation, and pushback" (link to paper)
This groundbreaking research uses hundreds of in-depth interviews with top officials from China, Chinese SOEs, state-owned banks as well as Philippine and Indonesian political and economic elite to get a glimpse at how Chinese firms view the strength of a foreign leader, how that affects their investment decisions and how miscalculating strength can lead to undesirable outcomes for Chinese investors and/or State.
Alvin Camba is an assistant professor at the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver. He received his PhD in Sociology from Johns Hopkins University and is also a non-resident fellow at the Climate Policy Lab at the Fletcher School at Tufts University.
Recommendations
Alvin:
1. How Duterte Strong-Armed Chinese Dam-builders but weakened Philippine Institutions
2. How China Lends: A Rare look into 100 debt contracts with foreign governments. Anna Gelpern, Sebastian Horn, Scott Morris, Brad Parks, Christopher Trebesch at AIDDATA
Erik:
1. Get a treadmill desk!
2. The nihilistic electronic noise music of Pharmakon - specifically recommending the song No Natural Order
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US Strategy Regarding China's Presence in the African Continent with Winslow Robertson and Owakhela Kankhwende
The Belt and Road Podcast
06/23/22 • 49 min
Erik is joined by Winslow Robertson and Owakhela Kankhwende to discuss their chapter of the book From Trump to Biden and Beyond: Reimagining U.S.-China Relations, entitled "U.S. Strategy Vis-À-Vis China's Presence in the African Continent: Description and Prescription".
Winslow Robertson is a PhD student at IESE Business School at the University of Navarra, where he focuses on Chinese provincial SOEs and the Belt and Road. He is also the founder of Cowries and Rice, a Sino-Africa management consultancy.
Owakhela Kankhwende is a recent graduate with a MAS in business analytics from Fordham University's Gabelli School of Business. He has been a research analyst at Pivotal Advisors, and is currently a data analyst at Insider.
Recommendations:
Owakhela:
- The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon (1961)
- UnLearn: 101 Simple Truths for a Better Life by Humble the Poet (2019)
Winslow:
- From Politics to Business: How a state-led fund is investing in Africa? The case of the China-Africa Development Fund by Hangwei Li (2020)
- The Long Game: China's Grand Strategy to Displace American Order by Rush Doshi (2021)
- The Dragon Prince series on Netflix (2018-19)
Erik:
- I Want You Back film (2022)
- Promises album by Floating Points, Pharoah Sanders, and the London Symphony Orchestra (2021)
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The Periphery Perspective: Global China from the Borderlands with Ale Rippa
The Belt and Road Podcast
04/28/23 • 41 min
Alessandro Rippa is associate professor at the University of Oslo's Department of Social Anthropology. His research centers on China's borderlands as lenses for studying infrastructure, global circulations, and the environment. He is PI of a new ERC Starting Grant project entitled, "Amber Worlds: A Geological Anthropology for the Anthropocene".
Featured work:
- "Imagined borderlands: Terrain, technology and trade in the making and managing of the China-Myanmar border." 2022. Singapore Journal of Tropical Geography .
- "Borderland Infrastructures: Trade, Development, and Control in Western China."
Ale:
- Infrastructure and the Remaking of Asia edited by Max Hirsh and Till Mostowlansky (2023)
- Keep an eye out for the upcoming special issue of The China Quarterly on Chinese infrastructure
- Scribd.com for eBooks and audiobooks
- Wordslut: A Feminist Guide to Taking Back the English Language by Amanda Montell (2020)
- Cultish: The Language of Fanaticism by Amanda Montell (2021)
- Fractured China: How State Transformation is Shaping China's Rise by Lee Jones and Shahar Hameiri (2021)
- Sinica Podcast: Sinica at the Association for Asian Studies Conference, Boston 2023: Capsule interviews
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Mapping Global China, For and By the People with Ivan Franceschini, Stella Hongzhang and Mark Grimsditch
The Belt and Road Podcast
05/28/21 • 37 min
A new approach to mapping the Belt and Road Initiative has arrived! The People's Map of China combines a broad, global representation of Chinese investments across a map of where they occur across the world with deep dive research into specific projects and their social and environmental implications. Designed by a coalition of nongovernmental organizations, journalists, trade unions, academics, and public contributors, the People's Map aims not only to improve understandings of global China but also to serve as a tool for advocacy for stakeholders affected by Chinese projects.
Erik & Juliet speak with Mark Grimsditch, Stella HongZhang, and Ivan Franceschini - three of the creators - about its recent launch, the design and creation, and the intended uses of the People's Map.
Access the People's Map Here
And see our recommendations:
Ivan: "Chinese workers allege forced labor, abuses in Xi's 'Belt and Road' program." Lili Kuo & Alicia Chen. Washington Post.
Erik: "Sound of Metal" film
Juliet:
1) HongZhang's article in Panda Paw Dragon Claw, "China's manifesto for leadership in global development"
2) Webinar: TNI’s Agrarian Conversations Series, “Global Food Regimes and China”
3) Webinar: The BU Global Development Policy Center’s latest webinar with Jake Werner, “The Sources of China’s Vision for Global Economic Governance“
Mark: Get off Twitter once in awhile, and watch Star Trek: The Next Generation
~Special thanks to Jada Kissi, who joined the Belt and Road Pod team in Dec 2020 and edited this episode~

More Friends, Fewer Funds along the BRI - Cecilia Joy-Perez
The Belt and Road Podcast
12/11/19 • 28 min

People-centered Power: Chinese Knowledge Production, Networks, and Training Programs in Africa - Lina Benabdallah
The Belt and Road Podcast
09/21/20 • 54 min
Prof. Dr. Lina Benabdallah discusses her latest book, "Shaping the Future of Power: Knowledge production and network-building in China-Africa Relations." Lina looks at China's rise and the Belt and Road beyond the hardware investments - the major infrastructure projects which have been most emphasized. She compares three major types of professionalization interventions: military and security cooperation, media and journalist training, and educational exchanges such as those done through Confucius Institutes. She suggests that these person-to-person engagements in Africa have far reaching impacts and constitute an important angle on Chinese global engagements often less understood and studied.
Recommendations
Lina: The Continent - a weekly newspaper compiling the best reporting across Africa, produced by the Mail & the Guardian.
Erik: Africa is a Country - covering opinion, analysis, and new writing on Africa
Juliet: On the topic of soft power, I recommend two very nationalistic Chinese blockbusters that portray Chinese development cooperation and aid missions - one in Africa called "Wolf Warrior II" (kickass trailer, random analysis) and one in the Mekong Region (less about aid more just cops, fighting, and explosions but based on real events) called "Operation Mekong" (trailer). Lina affirms that she shows Wolf Warrior in her classes :)
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How many episodes does The Belt and Road Podcast have?
The Belt and Road Podcast currently has 108 episodes available.
What topics does The Belt and Road Podcast cover?
The podcast is about News, Policy, Development, News Commentary, Investment, Podcasts, Social Sciences, Science and China.
What is the most popular episode on The Belt and Road Podcast?
The episode title 'The Complexities of a Chinese Dam Project in Ghana - Dr. Xiao Han' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on The Belt and Road Podcast?
The average episode length on The Belt and Road Podcast is 42 minutes.
How often are episodes of The Belt and Road Podcast released?
Episodes of The Belt and Road Podcast are typically released every 20 days.
When was the first episode of The Belt and Road Podcast?
The first episode of The Belt and Road Podcast was released on Jul 29, 2018.
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