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The Art Law Podcast

The Art Law Podcast

Steven Schindler & Katie Wilson-Milne

The Art Law Podcast hosts discussions about topics at the intersection of art and law with art lawyers Steve Schindler and Katie Wilson-Milne and their distinguished guests.
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The Art Law Podcast - 2018 Art Law Litigation Stories
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02/06/19 • 46 min

This month Katie and Steve talk about a few important art law cases from 2018 ranging from Nazi looting, to Italian fisherman discovering an ancient Greek statue, to the risks catalogue raisonné committees face when offering even indirect opinions on authenticity. The specific cases discussed are Von Saher v. Norton Simon Museum of Art at Pasadena, No. 16-56308 (9thCir. 2018); the Getty Bronze case decided by the Italian Court of Cassation; and Mayor Gallery Ltd. v. The Agnes Martin Catalogue Raisonné LLC, No. 655489/2016, 2018 WL 1638810 (N.Y. Sup. Ct. Apr. 5, 2018).

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2019/02/06/2018-art-law-litigation-stories/

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CORRECTION: After the recording of this podcast, the San Francisco School Board, in the face of community protest, reconsidered its decision to remove the George Washington murals from George Washington High School and will instead cover them.

Against the backdrop of global museums distancing themselves from the Sackler name, two highly controversial Whitney Biennials involving activist calls for the destruction and removal of an artwork and, more recently, calls for the resignation of a Board member who made a fortune building a network of defense equipment companies, and numerous other controversies in the United States about the identity of board members, museum donors and artists, Steve and Katie speak with Max Anderson about controversial board members, donors and works of art. Max is currently the President of the Souls Grown Deep Foundation and was previously the Director of the Whitney Museum of Art and the Dallas Museum, among other leading museum director roles.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2019/09/04/museum-controversies-reputational-concerns-and-offensive-art/

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Steve and Katie talk about and compare two recent Holocaust-era art cases decided in New York, one in state court on summary judgment and one in federal court on a motion to dismiss grounds. Both cases involve the claims of heirs to recover artwork that left the hands of Jewish owners persecuted by the Nazis, but they otherwise greatly differ.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2019/08/05/recent-new-york-holocaust-era-art-cases-come-out-differently/

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The Art Law Podcast - The Promise of Blockchain: Transparency in the Art Market
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01/07/19 • 62 min

Katie and Steve speak with Nanne Dekking, the founder and CEO of Artory and Chairman of the European Fine Art Fair, about Artory’s efforts to use blockchain to create a transparent registry of art sales, the general challenges to transparency in the fine art market, the problem of detecting fakes and forgeries and trustworthy counterparties, and blockchain’s limitations.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2019/01/07/the-promise-of-blockchain-transparency-in-the-art-market/

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The Art Law Podcast - Art of the Chase: Inside Art Auctions
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05/10/18 • 60 min

On this month’s podcast, we take a close look at art auctions – how they work, their place in the art market and the rules and regulations that confine/define them. Auctions at Sotheby’s and Christie’s now regularly net tens and sometimes hundreds of millions of dollars for a single work. Christie’s recently sold Leonardo da Vinci’s Salvator Mundi painting for $450 million, by far the highest price ever garnered by a piece of art at auction. At the same time, much about the auction process remains secret. The identity of the buyer and seller is often known only to the auction house, and the reserve price (below which an artwork will not be sold) is known by the auctioneer but not the bidders. While the auctioneer may not sell a work of art below its reserve price, it can bid on the work below the reserve to get the auction going. Steve and Katie discuss these issues and others having to do with regulation, transparency and potential conflicts, and welcome famous Sotheby’s auctioneer Oliver Barker to take us behind the scenes of a big auction.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2018/05/10/art-of-the-chase-inside-art-auctions/

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Katie and Steve update listeners on the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court’s decision approving the settlement reached between the Attorney General and the Berkshire Museum, which allows the Museum to sell 40 of its most valuable works of art through Sotheby’s with some (minor) conditions. Katie and Steve go over the terms of the settlement and discuss their reservations about the form (if not substance) of this resolution. Since the recording of this bonus episode, it has been reported that the yet to open Lucas Museum in Los Angeles will purchase the painting Shuffleton’s Barbershop, Norman Rockwell’s iconic masterpiece. The rest of the works will be sold gradually at auction until a total of $55 million in proceeds is reached.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2018/04/18/bonus-episode-berkshire-museum-update-settlement-approved/

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The Art Law Podcast - New and Impending Art World Money Laundering Regulations
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03/05/21 • 66 min

Steve and Katie speak with British art lawyer and General Counsel of Phillips auction house Martin Wilson about European anti-money laundering regulations applicable to art market participants and their recent implementation in the UK. Generally, these regulations require art dealers, galleries, and auction houses to register with the government and undertake due diligence on every art transaction over a certain threshold amount, including with respect to the identity of all ultimate beneficial owners of the transacting parties. Steve, Katie, and Martin discuss the practicalities of compliance, the general secrecy of the art market and the reasoning behind such regulations, and Martin’s recently published book, Art Law and the Business of Art. Steve and Katie also discuss the anti-money laundering regulatory environment in the United States as it applies to the art market and what may be just around the corner.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2021/03/05/new-and-impending-art-world-money-laundering-regulations/

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The Art Law Podcast - How Artists Mess with the Law
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10/01/19 • 63 min

Steve and Katie have a wide ranging conversation with art historian and former lawyer, Joan Kee, about the topic of her new book, Models of Integrity: Art and Law in Post-Sixties America. Their conversation probes artists’ embrace and rejection of legal structures in contemporary America, as well as artistic indifference about and dependence on the law.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2019/10/01/how-artists-mess-with-the-law/

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The Art Law Podcast - Art and Financial Crimes

Art and Financial Crimes

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04/23/19 • 60 min

Katie and Steve speak with Laura Patten and Michael Shepard about financial crimes, including money laundering, involving art. They discuss high profile examples of art-related financial crime, the reality and challenges of compliance for galleries, dealers and other art market participants, and the regulatory landscape in the U.S. and Europe. Laura formerly worked with the CIA and FBI on high stakes art crime investigations. Michael has worked for years on anti-money laundering and financial crimes investigations and programs. Both now work with Deloitte’s art and finance initiative and financial crimes practice.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2019/04/23/art-and-financial-crimes/

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The Art Law Podcast - What Can Science Tell Us About Art?
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03/12/18 • 54 min

On this month’s podcast we discuss the role of science in fine art. Specifically, what can science tell us about a work of art’s origin and authenticity? Can science help us discover fakes and forgeries undetected by traditional connoisseur style observation? We are joined by the famous art scientist Jamie Martin to discuss these issues, recount famous forgery scandals, and delve into his techniques and practices.

Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2018/03/12/what-can-science-tell-us-about-art/

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How many episodes does The Art Law Podcast have?

The Art Law Podcast currently has 71 episodes available.

What topics does The Art Law Podcast cover?

The podcast is about Podcasts, Arts and Business.

What is the most popular episode on The Art Law Podcast?

The episode title 'Museum Controversies: Reputational Concerns and "Offensive" Art' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on The Art Law Podcast?

The average episode length on The Art Law Podcast is 52 minutes.

How often are episodes of The Art Law Podcast released?

Episodes of The Art Law Podcast are typically released every 34 days.

When was the first episode of The Art Law Podcast?

The first episode of The Art Law Podcast was released on Jan 19, 2018.

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