Creating a drama free team
01/17/24 • 25 min
I am so thrilled to be sharing today's episode with you! I am joined today by special guest Dennis McIntee, CEO of the Leadership Development Group, author of Drama-Free Teams, and host of the Drama Free Living podcast. Dennis shares insights into creating self-directed, self-motivated work teams that yield great results. Our conversation delves into the challenges of leadership, overcoming overwhelm, and the power of understanding the stories we tell ourselves.
Listen in as Dennis and I explore the concept that feelings are just information, not facts. As leaders, we must refrain from coaching feelings directly but instead focus on coaching the underlying thoughts. Dennis encourages us to ask, "What are you thinking?" when team members express frustration or other emotions. By understanding the thoughts behind the feelings, leaders can guide their teams effectively, shaping positive narratives and fostering a drama-free workplace.
Join Dennis and me as we navigate the world of leadership, sharing experiences and discovering valuable insights on creating thriving, drama-free teams. If you're ready to enhance your leadership skills and explore the power of self-directed teams, dive into this episode with Dennis McIntee!
Time Stamps:
[1:10] - Today’s guest is Dennis McIntee!
[3:14] - Shifting from counseling to business, Dennis seeks adult-to-adult conversations for self-directed, efficient work teams.
[5:39] - Reflecting on a parenting class, Dennis emphasizes personal growth as a foundation for effective leadership.
[8:56] - Dennis advocates for leaders to clarify results, use tools like intent documents, and empower teams.
[11:45] - Dennis emphasizes the need for diverse facilitators to avoid shutdowns, encourages team-led meetings, and values individual strengths.
[14:00] - Dennis groups busy, overwhelm, and stress together, viewing feelings as information influenced by thoughts.
[17:07] - Dennis advises leaders against coaching feelings directly, instead focusing on understanding thoughts and fostering problem-solving discussions.
[19:02] - Feelings convey stories, often fabricated; wisdom lies in deciphering their narrative. Assigning meaning is subjective.
[21:43] - Dennis explores the concept that everything is made up; leaders shape meaning through storytelling.
[23:20] - Dennis reiterates viewing feelings as information and coaching thoughts instead of trying to directly coach feelings.
Resources Mentioned:
Leadership Development Group - Website
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values by Robert M Pirsig
I am so thrilled to be sharing today's episode with you! I am joined today by special guest Dennis McIntee, CEO of the Leadership Development Group, author of Drama-Free Teams, and host of the Drama Free Living podcast. Dennis shares insights into creating self-directed, self-motivated work teams that yield great results. Our conversation delves into the challenges of leadership, overcoming overwhelm, and the power of understanding the stories we tell ourselves.
Listen in as Dennis and I explore the concept that feelings are just information, not facts. As leaders, we must refrain from coaching feelings directly but instead focus on coaching the underlying thoughts. Dennis encourages us to ask, "What are you thinking?" when team members express frustration or other emotions. By understanding the thoughts behind the feelings, leaders can guide their teams effectively, shaping positive narratives and fostering a drama-free workplace.
Join Dennis and me as we navigate the world of leadership, sharing experiences and discovering valuable insights on creating thriving, drama-free teams. If you're ready to enhance your leadership skills and explore the power of self-directed teams, dive into this episode with Dennis McIntee!
Time Stamps:
[1:10] - Today’s guest is Dennis McIntee!
[3:14] - Shifting from counseling to business, Dennis seeks adult-to-adult conversations for self-directed, efficient work teams.
[5:39] - Reflecting on a parenting class, Dennis emphasizes personal growth as a foundation for effective leadership.
[8:56] - Dennis advocates for leaders to clarify results, use tools like intent documents, and empower teams.
[11:45] - Dennis emphasizes the need for diverse facilitators to avoid shutdowns, encourages team-led meetings, and values individual strengths.
[14:00] - Dennis groups busy, overwhelm, and stress together, viewing feelings as information influenced by thoughts.
[17:07] - Dennis advises leaders against coaching feelings directly, instead focusing on understanding thoughts and fostering problem-solving discussions.
[19:02] - Feelings convey stories, often fabricated; wisdom lies in deciphering their narrative. Assigning meaning is subjective.
[21:43] - Dennis explores the concept that everything is made up; leaders shape meaning through storytelling.
[23:20] - Dennis reiterates viewing feelings as information and coaching thoughts instead of trying to directly coach feelings.
Resources Mentioned:
Leadership Development Group - Website
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values by Robert M Pirsig
Previous Episode
Things you call dead haven't had a chance to be born
Welcome back to your favorite leadership podcast with your host, Bo McDonald! This episode is dedicated to the stutters of life, our self-imposed limitations and traumas that hold us in a vice - a tale intertwined with my journey and that of the unforgettable Scatman John!
Scatman John's story's connection with my own reveals similarities and gems about embracing our authentic selves and overcoming seemingly insurmountable barriers, so, join me as we dig into the grip of past traumas, the fear of vulnerability and how these affect the leadership path!
From my childhood classrooms to Scatman's John stuttering journey, I hope to illuminate lessons about overcoming what we think is holding us back and turning it into a catapult for extraordinary success. Get ready to redefine your setbacks into setups and awaken the dormant possibilities in your life. Here's to becoming better, not just as leaders but as individuals as a whole. Spoiler alert - every "stutter" has a silver lining!
Time Stamps:
[1:24] - I am reflecting on a song quote and how Ash Davis's book transformed my life.
[2:43] - I recollect childhood lessons about self-limitations and overcoming past traumas.
[4:08] - I discuss overcoming my public speaking trauma and embracing my leadership positions.
[6:14] - I spun Scatman John's upbeat hit at the skating rink, a song which made him rise from a struggling jazz musician to a global sensation.
[9:12] - Scatman John overcame a severe childhood stutter, taking a huge musical risk blending jazz, scat, dance, and hip hop, creating a new genre that resonated globally.
[11:13] - Scatman John, overcoming substance abuse and childhood questions, found clarity, realizing that his identity extended beyond his stutter.
[12:34] - I encourage you to redefine yourself beyond perceived limitations.
[14:47] - Scatman John transcended his stutter, receiving applause for his unique sound, proving that he was more than his perceived limitations.
[17:02] - In a keynote speech, Scatman John revealed that success didn't “fix” him; he just embraced being different.
[19:20] - I encourage reflecting on your own "stutters," reframing them as potential talents; past trauma shouldn't hinder progress.
[22:12] - It’s very important that leaders allow themselves to be vulnerable.
Resources Mentioned:
Next Episode
Lessons learned from a legacy of leadership with guest Nick Wodogaza
I have really been looking forward to today’s conversation for a while! I am so excited to have former “retired” CEO Nick Wodogaza on the show this week to talk all about the awesome responsibility of being a leader and what it entails. Nick shares his journey from "retirement" to a passionate commitment to mentoring the next generation of credit union leaders, and we delve into the unique perspective of a seasoned leader who came back to consult, bringing decades of experience to the evolving landscape of credit unions.
Discover the essence of leadership through Nick's anecdotes, including his reflections on influential figures from his past and the pivotal role of effective leadership in fostering the growth of a credit union. From navigating challenges in a once-insolvent credit union to embracing technological shifts, Nick provides invaluable insights.
Join me for an enlightening discussion on the responsibility of leaders, the art of guiding individuals to reach their potential, and the vital role of open-mindedness in facing the ever-changing demands of the financial industry.
Time Stamps:
[0:43] - Today’s guest is Nick Wodogaza!
[2:17] - Why did Nick decide to “unretire”?
[3:47] - Nick credits his fourth grade teacher as having been a positive influence on him.
[6:15] - Nick walks us through his leadership journey progressing from staff to VP.
[9:56] - I underscore the awesome responsibility of accidental leaders, emphasizing the impact on people's lives beyond managing tasks.
[11:09] - Nick stresses the importance of avoiding the Peter principle within an organization and discusses the need for continuous development and support.
[14:04] - How has Nick embraced change during his career?
[17:29] - I discuss Pat West and how she embraced change for members' benefit.
[18:50] - Nick discusses the importance of being open to change, technology innovations shape growth and success.
[21:09] - Leaders must be willing to make open-minded decisions for member and staff success amid evolving technology.
[24:11] - Nick shares how he faced a daunting challenge turning around an insolvent credit union, leading its recovery.
[27:02] - Nick takes pride in leading staff to recognize and solve problems, shaping his growth as a leader.
[28:02] - I acknowledge the value of quiet leaders like Nick who lead with calmness, communication, and meaningful actions.
[29:55] - Leaders should adopt a “servant heart” and embrace the philosophy of "loving all, serve all" for a better world.
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