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That's a Bad Sign

That's a Bad Sign

Emily & Liz

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Serial killers, cold cases, missing persons and conspiracy theories... there's no topic these two women won't cover. Hosts Emily and Liz discuss a new true crime case every week, diving into gruesome details, while managing to keep the mood light.
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Suzanne Gloria Lyall lived in Saratoga Springs and graduated from high school with honors. She had a love for computers and enrolled in SUNY Albany to further her studies. One day, after work, when walking from the campus bus stop to her dorm she suddenly vanished. In just 2 weeks the police are out of suspects and the case goes cold. To this day the question remains, how could a 19 year old girl vanish from a campus without a trace? Then we cover the case of Paige Birgfeld, a 34 year old mother with a loving boyfriend and jealous ex husband. When she didn't return home one night, immediately her family knew something was wrong. Foul play was suspected after her belongings were found on the side of the highway. But who would harm her? Her loyal boyfriend? The crazy ex husband? Or was is someone from Paige's secret second life....

NOTE: If you have any information concerning Suzanne Lyall, please contact your local FBI office or the nearest American Embassy or Consulate - or Submit an anonymous Tip online
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Suzanne_Lyall
https://medium.com/@jennbaxter_69070/the-mysterious-disappearance-of-suzanne-lyall-223ce0980923
https://charleyproject.org/case/suzanne-gloria-lyall
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/ny-suzanne-lyall-19-collins-circle-at-suny-albany-2-march-1998.4612/page-9
https://www.deaddrunkpodcast.com/episodes/0mhcc7e094u83jdk5ezp9y8ysbn81b
48 Hours Season 27 Episode 62 “The Secret Life of Paige Birgfeld”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-secret-life-of-paige-birgfeld/
https://www.originol.com/the-secret-life-of-a-colorado-housewife-the-murder-of-paige-birgfeld/
https://heavy.com/news/paige-birgfeld-murder/

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In 1978, Dorothy Stratten was a teenager working at a Dairy Queen. Seemingly overnight she became a star - first appearing in Playboy, then becoming Hollywood's up-and-coming actress. While some were thrilled with her fame, including friend Hugh Hefner, others (like Dorothy's husband Paul Snider) couldn't stand to see her successful. Then we cover the Rachel Barber murder that shook Melbourne, Australia in 1999. Rachel Barber was a beautiful 15 year old girl, with her life and dancing career ahead of her. Little did she know her former babysitter (Caroline Reed Robertson) was an obsessive stalker, willing to do anything to take Rachel's place.
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https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/a12500777/dorothy-stratten-hugh-hefner-playboy-playmate/
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/horrific-murder-playboy-playmate-verge-hollywood-stardom-flaw/story?id=66193166
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Stratten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Her_Skin
https://www.mamamia.com.au/caroline-reed-robertson-rachel-barber/
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/caroline-reed-robertson-who-strangled-dancer-rachel-barber-in-1999-freed-on-parole/news-story/5ce7e1bd298fbc40145f6aacf02dbfed
https://morbidology.com/the-deadly-obsession-the-murder-of-rachel-barber/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2916870/Jealous-killer-strangled-promising-dancer-phone-cord-plotted-steal-identity-walk-free-jail-today-victim-s-parents-ask-allowed-life.html

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Terry Rasmussen was an American serial killer and although he was one of the country's most deadly killers, law enforcement suspects his number of victims is underreported. He would target older mothers, cut them off from their families and friends, then murder them - assuming he isolated them enough that everyone would think these women simply ran away. Then we cover the murder of Kerrie Brown. In 1986 she went to a house party in Manatoba, Canada, only to be discovered two days later murdered. While this is a cold case, we dive into the top theories of what happened.
Sources:
20/20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Peder_Rasmussen
https://abcnews.go.com/US/timeline-serial-killer-terry-rasmussens-terror-hampshire-california/story?id=69505755&fbclid=IwAR3ZT7kTT4YStAWirDPkNMnKaJ_otXzNOqEngLqXq8AbPG0mB87X0CCQlrM
https://abcnews.go.com/US/terry-rasmussens-victims-unknown/story?id=69585534
https://canadiancrimeopedia.com/unsolved_women/brown-kerrie/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/kerrie-ann-brown-murder-cold-case-1.4859553
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/sks/who-s-who-in-season-5-kerrie-brown-1.4861499
“Someone Knows Something” Podcast

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That's a Bad Sign - Murderer Jodi Arias and the Du Pont family scandals
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08/19/21 • 39 min

Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias started dating in February 2007. The two had an instant connection, but Travis couldn't see himself marrying Jodi since she wasn't Mormon. While they didn't break up, the two had a tumultuous relationship. One day Travis missed an important work trip. When his dead body was discovered, friends believe Jodi had something to do with it. Then we dive into the Du Pont family scandals. Lisa Dean Du Pont was an heiress and from the outside looking in, her life seemed perfect. But when her youngest son falls in love with a drug addict, the Du Pont family puts a hit on the young woman.

Sources:
Dateline Season 21 Episode 36 “Along Came Jodi”
https://abcnews.go.com/US/friends-warned-travis-alexander-jodi-arias-dangerous-months/story?id=68731237
https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/1999/9/1/in-cold-blue-blood
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2000/mar/17/husband-of-du-pont-heiress-gets-16-years-in-prison/
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2004/may/27/du-pont-heiress-husband-dies/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3571685/Scandalous-DuPont-heiress-dies-aged-87-18-years-gardener-turned-husband-paid-Las-Vegas-murder-son-s-drug-addled-prostitute-girlfriend.html
https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/why-are-dupont-and-chemours-still-discharging-most-notorious-forever-chemical

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That's a Bad Sign - The Torso and Happy Face Killers
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07/29/20 • 38 min

Richard Francis Cottingham AKA 'The Torso Killer' AKA 'The Times Square Ripper' received his nicknames due to his habit of dismembering his victims, usually leaving nothing but a torso behind. Then we dive into Keith Hunter Jesperson, 'The Happy Face Killer,' who was a Canadian-American serial killer who murdered at least eight women in the United States during the early 1990s. Get ready for some dark and twisted stories, EVERY THURSDAY.
Sources:
https://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/cottingham-richard.htm
https://www.criminallyintrigued.com/blog/2019/3/3/the-torso-killer-richard-cottingham
https://www.thoughtco.com/profile-of-serial-killer-richard-cottingham-973146
https://www.nj.com/news/2020/01/the-torso-killer-dismembered-her-mother-so-why-did-this-woman-become-his-friend.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Hunter_Jesperson
https://murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jesperson.htm

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Elizabeth (Bipsy) Amirian was a singer and piano player living in California. Her dad was an abusive religious fanatic - but when she and her mom moved out she began to live a normal life.... until she met Mikey Wagstaff. He belonged to the ultra-conservative Seventh Day Adventist church and while he seemed kind, in the beginning, Bipsy quickly realized Mikey was more like her father than she initially realized. Then we cover the disappearance of Brian Shaffer. The last time he was seen, he was partying with his friends in a club. When his family reported him missing, the police tried to retrace his steps during his wild night out. Only issue? He never left the club.
Sources:
https://icantbelieveitsnonfiction.com/2019/06/04/elizabeth-amirian/
http://www.michaelgingrich.com/mytests/01217.htm
https://www.dreamindemon.com/community/threads/elizabeth-amirian-was-stabbed-to-death-by-her-bf.14874/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trial-begins-for-calif-man-who-allegedly-raped-and-stabbed-fiancee-after-keeping-her-in-van/
https://patch.com/california/murrieta/defense-murrieta-church-member-killed-fiancee-in-panic
Crime over Coffee: Episode 1
https://www.ranker.com/list/brian-shaffer-missing-mystery/patrick-thornton
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/nc919s/what_is_your_theory_about_the_disappearance_of/
https://allthatsinteresting.com/brian-shaffer
Crime Junkie: Episode “MISSING: Brian Shaffer”

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In 1977, Candy and Pat Montgomery moved to their dream home in a suburb of Dallas. Pat had a good job and Candy was a stay at home mom. On the outside, everything looked perfect... But in truth, Candy was bored with her life and wanted an affair to spice things up. The affair, which started out innocent enough, lead Candy down a dangerous path of deception and... murder. Then we dive into the story of NYC's cannibal cop Gilberto Valle. He was a married man with a child, but soon enough his wife (Kathleen Mangan) noticed his detachment and lack of a sex drive. She did some cyber snooping to save her marriage, but soon found that her husband was... a cannibal.

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December 2009 in Wyoming - Sarah Kastovny finds an odd Craigslist add. The caption read: 'Need an aggressive man with no concern or regard for women. If interested, contact Sarah,'" providing her address and a picture of her. The ad gets removed after a few days but unfortunately it's too late and Sarah is attacked. Then we cover the case of Asha Degree. On Valentine's day in 2000 the 10-year-old girl sneaks out of her apartment in the middle of the night, never to be seen again. While authorities look for her, suspecting another person might have had a hand in her disappearance, her family struggles to get media attention to help find their daughter.
Sources:
https://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/craigslist-rape-victim/all
https://icantbelieveitsnonfiction.com/2018/12/11/jebidiah-stipe/
https://trib.com/news/local/utter-depravity/article_3a17e06f-ee98-531a-adbd-0c71dac1e442.html
https://trib.com/news/local/details-emerge-in-web-rape-case/article_edb73077-0bbc-5bc2-b9ea-b3fe5c9aedce.html
https://allthatsinteresting.com/asha-degree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Asha_Degree
https://www.jetmag.com/news/iquilla-degree-where-is-my-daughter/
https://www.strangeoutdoors.com/mysterious-stories-blog/asha-degree
Crime Junkie episode from Jan 2019: “MISSING: Asha Degree”
https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/apcynz/thoughts_from_a_local_on_the_asha_degree_case_and/

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James Fountain was living alone in Buffalo, NY when he discovered the dismembered body of a woman in his garage. The victim was a 29-year-old mother of two, Cynthia Epps. The case quickly goes cold until Detective Charles Aronica, who specialized in cold cases, picked up the case 18 years later. Then we cover the home invasion and kidnapping of Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn. One night the couple is awoken in the middle of the night to men breaking in. Denise is taken hostage while Aaron must follow the kidnappers' instructions. Just when Aaron thought the situation couldn't get any worse... he brings in the police... who believe Aaron has more to do with Denise's disappearance than he's letting on.
Sources:
https://www.trueactivist.com/cold-case-files-reopened-and-solved-with-modern-technology-gallery-t2/8/
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Guilty-plea-in-NY-case-of-woman-in-nightstand-3629185.php
https://buffalonews.com/news/man-charged-in-94-murder-of-neighbor-dna-evidence-links-suspect-to-grisly-crime/article_68a85e5d-8d20-50fd-a779-77c11b067f95.html
https://www.wbfo.org/local/2012-07-14/murderer-charged-in-two-decade-old-case
https://buffalonews.com/news/man-sentenced-to-23-to-life-in-brutal-94-murder-killer-stands-silent-as-victims/article_6e45ed7a-a228-55a6-944c-8455f91435b4.html
20/20 Season Episode “Taken”
“Criminal” podcast 2-part Episode
https://nypost.com/2021/06/12/real-gone-girl-accused-of-staging-abduction-gets-vindication/

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James “Jimmy” Beaudoin II, was the surrogate son—and alleged lover—of New York’s “jeweler to the stars.” He went from living a mundane life in Florida to being accepted into New York City's social elite over night. But after a night of partying ending in the grisly murder of Joey Comunale, Jimmy faces a much darker future. Then we detail the rape and murder spree of Canadian serial killers Karla Homolka and her husband, Paul Bernardo (AKA the Ken & Barbie Killers). Was Karla brainwashed to kidnap and torture women for Paul's sick fantasy? Or was she more involved then she originally led on?
Sources:
https://archive.vanityfair.com/article/2020/5/murder-at-sutton-place
https://nypost.com/2019/11/11/dad-of-jeweler-to-the-stars-murder-victim-sues-luxury-apartment-building/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joey-comunale-murder-social-media-clues-disappearance-apartment-4c/
https://filmdaily.co/obsessions/true-crime/paul-bernardo/
https://delanirbartlette.medium.com/deadly-valentines-the-ken-barbie-killers-390e51e4a966
https://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bernardo-paul.htm

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How many episodes does That's a Bad Sign have?

That's a Bad Sign currently has 97 episodes available.

What topics does That's a Bad Sign cover?

The podcast is about True Crime, Cold Case, Murder, Comedy, Podcasts, Horror and Missing Persons.

What is the most popular episode on That's a Bad Sign?

The episode title 'Disappearance of Suzanne Lyall and murder of Paige Birgfeld' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on That's a Bad Sign?

The average episode length on That's a Bad Sign is 34 minutes.

How often are episodes of That's a Bad Sign released?

Episodes of That's a Bad Sign are typically released every 7 days.

When was the first episode of That's a Bad Sign?

The first episode of That's a Bad Sign was released on Jul 29, 2020.

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