Jeff & Debra Jay on Intervention & Family Recovery
08/18/22 • 63 min
It’s a familiar, but true, saying: recovery is about breaking cycles.
Jeff and Debra Jay know this better than most. Together, they’ve been doing pioneering work in the areas of family recovery and intervention for decades.
Their book, Love First is the essential work on the family recovery dynamic. It’s now in its third printing and it’s a powerful roadmap for harnessing the power of family and friends to help a loved one accept treatment.
Debra’s book, It Takes a Family, is a ground-breaking introduction to Structured Family Recovery®. In it, she demonstrates the interconnectedness of addiction inside a family structure, and provides mountains of good news and hope - both for the person who is suffering - and the people around them.
Jeff and Debra Jay also happen to be married - and they’ve made the family health and recovery their life’s work. This is one of those episodes that NEEDS to be shared with the people you know who are at their wits end. Jeff and Debra are the real deal and we’re so glad to welcome them to Tell Me Something True.
Resources:
Love First - Jeff & Debra Jay’s site
Books by Jeff & Debra Jay (with several free samples to download and share)
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Episode link: https://www.tmstpod.com/episodes/61-jeff-and-debra-jay-on-intervention-and-family-recovery
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Here’s the transcript:
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It’s a familiar, but true, saying: recovery is about breaking cycles.
Jeff and Debra Jay know this better than most. Together, they’ve been doing pioneering work in the areas of family recovery and intervention for decades.
Their book, Love First is the essential work on the family recovery dynamic. It’s now in its third printing and it’s a powerful roadmap for harnessing the power of family and friends to help a loved one accept treatment.
Debra’s book, It Takes a Family, is a ground-breaking introduction to Structured Family Recovery®. In it, she demonstrates the interconnectedness of addiction inside a family structure, and provides mountains of good news and hope - both for the person who is suffering - and the people around them.
Jeff and Debra Jay also happen to be married - and they’ve made the family health and recovery their life’s work. This is one of those episodes that NEEDS to be shared with the people you know who are at their wits end. Jeff and Debra are the real deal and we’re so glad to welcome them to Tell Me Something True.
Resources:
Love First - Jeff & Debra Jay’s site
Books by Jeff & Debra Jay (with several free samples to download and share)
If you care about these kinds of conversations, we hope you’ll become a TMST Plus member.
Episode link: https://www.tmstpod.com/episodes/61-jeff-and-debra-jay-on-intervention-and-family-recovery
Spotify playlist for this episode:
Here’s the transcript:
Tell Me Something True is a 100% independent podcast. There are no corporations or advertisers backing this community. We are 100% funded by the TMST community. Become a TMST member today so you can hear the uncut interviews, attend private events with Laura and help keep TMST ad-free.
Support TMST and keep it ad-free: https://tmst.supercast.com/
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Anne Helen Petersen on Burnout and The Myth of “Having it All
“Rachel Hollis is a manifestation of a larger ideology about women's place in society. That if you just try hard enough, all of these structural issues that are making your life really, really hard can be solved if you just wash your face. .” - Anne Helen Petersen
Anne Helen Petersen is one of our most essential cultural observers. Her work at Buzzfeed culminated in her 2020 book, Can't Even: How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation. Now she’s using Culture Study, her Substack newsletter, to explore everything from The Unified Theory of Peloton to how to make friends.
In the episode, Laura and Anne unpack the faux empowerment of Rachel Hollis, the ways we sell quick fixes to systemic problems (like how a bath bomb will overcome the ways our society devalues women, and, particularly mothers) and the myth of “having it all.”
More than ever, this is one to share with your favorite people!
Readings mentioned in the show:
Culture Study - AHP’s newsletter and community.
Towards A Unified Theory of Peloton by Anne Helen Petersen
How Millennials Became The Burnout Generation by Anne Helen Petersen
“Girl, Wash Your Face” Is A Massive Best-Seller With A Dark Message by Laura Turner
A Quick Explainer On Why People Aren’t Happy With Rachel Hollis
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Episode link: https://www.tmstpod.com/episodes/60-anne-helen-petersen-on-burnout-and-the-myth-of-having-it-all
Spotify playlist for this episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/56aVWMg3xGWSWGCXZzlVa3
Here’s the transcript:
Tell Me Something True is a 100% independent podcast. There are no corporations or advertisers backing this community. We are 100% funded by the TMST community. Become a TMST member today so you can hear the uncut interviews and help keep TMST ad-free.
Support TMST and keep it ad-free: https://tmst.supercast.com/
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Erin Lane on the Scripts That Hurt Mothers (and non-mothers, too!)
We don’t like to admit it, but there are a hell of a lot of scripts that run us. They’re the “shoulds” - ideas so woven into our lives that we don’t even know they exist.
For virtually all women - the scripts around motherhood are the most pernicious. They load us down with self-doubt, bake in unattainable expectations, and set us up for a life where we’re always defined in relationship to others, our kids, or lack of kids.
Erin Lane has spent most of her life challenging these scripts. Her latest book, “Someone Other Than a Mother” tears up the shaming social scripts that are bad for moms and non-moms alike. When we hear things like “Motherhood is the toughest job...” or "You don't know love until you become a mother" we’re encountering the social scripting that defines what’s “normal” for the majority of American women.
This conversation with Erin is equal parts liberating and bracing. She’s cracking something that we need to discuss in specific, urgent ways and we’re thrilled to have her as our guest on Tell Me Something True.
Resources:
Erin’s site: https://www.erinslane.com/
Her book - Someone Other Than a Mother
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Episode link:
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Here’s the transcript:
Tell Me Something True is a 100% independent podcast. There are no corporations or advertisers backing this community. We are 100% funded by the TMST community. Become a TMST member today so you can hear the uncut interviews, attend private events with Laura and help keep TMST ad-free.
Support TMST and keep it ad-free: https://tmst.supercast.com/
erin s. lane, mother hunger, adoption, motherhood, parenting, codependency, christianity, biblical womanhood, someone other than a mother, laura mckowen, we are the luckiest
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