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In conversation with Resident Philosopher Dr. Shottenkirk, Chelsea, a documentary producer, talks about making space for people to be creative
Timestamps:

• 00:10: Introductions
• 01:05: Art and Philosophy, both are conversations
• 02:35: Chelsea's perspective on Art. A facilitator, a documentary producer.
• 04:30: The universal and the particular. Art needs to be true, if it's a lie, it won't ring true.
• 06:00: Art retells universal truths. What are those universal truths? Desire for one
• 08:15: The relationship between desire and integrity
• 10:55: "The more honest it is, the more it moves us" Art can be a space for us to accept ourselves
• 14:05: Antigone in Prison. We identify with each of these characters, be it good or bad people. Art has always been this way
• 18:20: A low stakes playfulness. Art has a nugget of playfulness and fun. It gets us out of our own heads for a bit
• 21:55: Why does playfulness live predominantly in younger years?
• 24:05: Curating voices that can tell a story. Who do we need to speak to get that authentic story? It's a work of Art that can bring out a lot of voices
• 27:25: Documentaries also help us understand our place in the world. What side are we on?

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Beth Evans joins Resident Philosopher Carolina Flores for the sixth part of our postmasters series. They discuss visual art, in particular performance art as it gives more room for thought. There's a feeling in the moment that's not found in two dimensional art. You become a part of the environment and it changes the way you see the non art world. Ordinary things can become objects of art. Just requires a different gaze/pattern of attention.

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1:00 The conversation begins with a focus on free speech and censorship, prompting them to share their thoughts on whether these concepts are prevalent in society.
5:00 They discuss the potential social consequences of expressing differing political views, particularly in the context of the 2016 presidential election.
8:00 They discuss the concept of echo chambers in politics and social media, where individuals tend to surround themselves with like-minded individuals, reinforcing their own beliefs and ignoring opposing viewpoints.
12:00 They explore the multifaceted nature of the conversation surrounding free speech, suggesting that it extends beyond just legal and moral rights to encompass social dynamics as well.
14:00 They discuss how differing opinions, regardless of political affiliation, can lead to further division among people, and how this can inhibit open communication of ideas.
16:00 They raise questions about whether our conception of free speech should adapt to different social contexts, noting that discussions about free speech often yield varied conclusions depending on the specific examples and social contexts considered.
20:00 They discuss the limitations of the Socratic method in addressing the persistence of falsehoods and misconceptions over time. Alex suggests that societal beliefs may evolve through ongoing discourse and debate, leading to collective agreement on certain truths over time.
24:00 They discuss the consequences of censorship -- the phenomenon of cancel culture, noting its evolution from holding individuals accountable to resembling the Salem witch trials, where minor actions could lead to a disproportionate backlash on social media.
28:00 They explore the peculiar phenomenon of cancel culture, highlighting its dual nature. Alex questions the ethical implications of cancel culture and reflects on its damaging effects despite its origins in free speech.
30:00 They discuss the concept of cancel culture as a form of social censorship rather than a legal one. Alex argues that cancel culture often denies individuals the opportunity to defend themselves or redeem their actions, thus hindering their ability to speak freely and engage in meaningful dialogue.

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Timestamps:
00:10 Intros
01:10 What do we think when we hear "Philosophy? // Interested bystanders
02:00 The nature of power in society // The power of common connection
03:00 Power dynamics as an inevitability, how is power negotiated? Power can be taken away or moved around
04:00 Should we want power to be a stationary concept, should it remain dynamic?
05:05 What would count as the optimal form of power? How should power be distributed in society?
06:35 Small scale: Figuring out how to balance power in individualistic relationships. Can we distribute power evenly?
07:50 Family, can we make the power dynamics explicit? Leveraging power underneath the surface
09:25 Do we explicitly name power in order to deal with it and navigate?
10:55 Explicit power structure, feeling empowered when power is tangible
13:20 What kinds of structures do we want to make? We don't have to replicate what we already know
15:30 The necessity of will and means for power
16:45 Summoning forth the will to enact power over the world, or the right place, right time
18:50 The will to fight all the time. Allowing yourself to play a role in the structure of power
22:00 Changing society is changing our understanding of loving each other

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Timestamps:

• 00:10: Introductions
• 00:50: Getting started, how do feel, what are we about, where are we from?
• 02:40: Brainstorming on Art. What is Art for us? From the point of an Artist, we don't think about it and let the subconscious work, or we focus our intentions through Art.
• 05:00: An experience can stop us in our tracks. We absorb the forms and forget everything else for a moment. What happens in the relationship of Art vs Observer
• 06:30: Art is a language, beyond our written/spoken. It's a language of world-building. We skip the process of translating and overdoing
• 07:40: In the beginning, we think we're an observer, not an Artist, but perhaps there's no true differentiation between the two. Are we all Artists?
• 08:55: The creation process is pivotal. Part of being a creator is deconstructing. It's a healing process of taking away the toxic things we've been taught. When you step into the observer's shoes, you're deconstructing.
• 12:00: When we process art and make it, we have analytical vs creative perspectives. How can we merge them?
• 13:45: Creative mothers and fathers. Portals to step through via Art. It's a beginning for others to make their own meaning.
• 17:20: Artist vs Observer is not a static position. The strongest Art comes from observation. Look within as an observer and create based on those inputs.
• 20:30: Where does Art come from? Do certain regions exist in the brain that constitute the thinking that drives Art? Genes modify behaviors as seen in other animals, but does this apply to us and our relationship with Art?
• 25:20: Unbroken cultures, the Aborigines and their land. Art as a topographical map and representations of the land over years. Process of communal creation over years.
• 28:00: Religion and war tend to go together. We make art from ground zero. Beginning again as a regenerative process. Where we're at mentally changes us, does it change our bodies?
• 31:30: The institution of religion is about power, especially in Europe. In other regions, religion is different as a tool to connect and not so much dominate.
• 34:30: Religious spirituality comes from within, does not relate to power but more so personal growth. It's a language to connect us.

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