episode 5: McKenzie Wark

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05/12/21 • 113 min

I talk with McKenzie Wark about a range of topics, including writing, editing (her superpower), glimpsing yourself in works by other writers, and writing about sex.

Books by McKenzie that we discuss:

I'm Very into You: Correspondence 1995–1996 [with Kathy Acker] (2015)
Reverse Cowgirl (2020)
Philosophy for Spiders: On the Low Theory of Kathy Acker (forthcoming, Sept 2021)

Articles written by McKenzie that are mentioned:

Books by other writers that come up (in approximate order of appearance):

Blood and Guts in High School - Kathy Acker
Pussy, King of the Pirates - Kathy Acker
Time is the Thing a Body Moves Through - T Fleischmann
Conundrum - Jan Morris
Our Lady of the Flowers - Jean Genet
Katherine’s Diary - Katherine Cummings
The Freezer Door - Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore
"Descent into the Maelström" [short story] - Edgar Allen Poe
I Love Dick - Chris Kraus
PSYCHO NYMPH EXILE - Porpentine Charity Heartscape
Little Fish - Casey Plett
Nevada - Imogen Binnie
Infect Your Friends and Loved Ones - Torrey Peters
Detransition, Baby - Torrey Peters
I've Got a Time Bomb - Sybil Lamb
Women in Clothes [an anthology edited by Sheila Heti et al. with a piece by Christen Clifford called "Mother, Daughter, Moustache"]
The Argonauts - Maggie Nelson
Bluets - Maggie Nelson
My Meteorite - Harry Dodge
The Subtweet - Vivek Shraya
He Mele A Hilo - Ryka Aoki
Next Year, For Sure - Zoey Leigh Peterson
Paul Takes the Form of Mortal Girl - Andrea Lawlor
Darryl - Jackie Ess

The full episode transcript is available right here.

The podcast theme song is "Tall Girl" by Wares from the album Survival, which you can (and probably should) get via Bandcamp. (This song appears courtesy of Wares and Mint Records.)

Our logo was designed by Rojina Farrokhnejad at HandMadeDesign.

t4t is recorded and edited on the unceded ancestral territories of the xwməθkwəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and sə̓lílwətaʔɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.

I talk with McKenzie Wark about a range of topics, including writing, editing (her superpower), glimpsing yourself in works by other writers, and writing about sex.

Books by McKenzie that we discuss:

I'm Very into You: Correspondence 1995–1996 [with Kathy Acker] (2015)
Reverse Cowgirl (2020)
Philosophy for Spiders: On the Low Theory of Kathy Acker (forthcoming, Sept 2021)

Articles written by McKenzie that are mentioned:

Books by other writers that come up (in approximate order of appearance):

Blood and Guts in High School - Kathy Acker
Pussy, King of the Pirates - Kathy Acker
Time is the Thing a Body Moves Through - T Fleischmann
Conundrum - Jan Morris
Our Lady of the Flowers - Jean Genet
Katherine’s Diary - Katherine Cummings
The Freezer Door - Mattilda Bernstein Sycamore
"Descent into the Maelström" [short story] - Edgar Allen Poe
I Love Dick - Chris Kraus
PSYCHO NYMPH EXILE - Porpentine Charity Heartscape
Little Fish - Casey Plett
Nevada - Imogen Binnie
Infect Your Friends and Loved Ones - Torrey Peters
Detransition, Baby - Torrey Peters
I've Got a Time Bomb - Sybil Lamb
Women in Clothes [an anthology edited by Sheila Heti et al. with a piece by Christen Clifford called "Mother, Daughter, Moustache"]
The Argonauts - Maggie Nelson
Bluets - Maggie Nelson
My Meteorite - Harry Dodge
The Subtweet - Vivek Shraya
He Mele A Hilo - Ryka Aoki
Next Year, For Sure - Zoey Leigh Peterson
Paul Takes the Form of Mortal Girl - Andrea Lawlor
Darryl - Jackie Ess

The full episode transcript is available right here.

The podcast theme song is "Tall Girl" by Wares from the album Survival, which you can (and probably should) get via Bandcamp. (This song appears courtesy of Wares and Mint Records.)

Our logo was designed by Rojina Farrokhnejad at HandMadeDesign.

t4t is recorded and edited on the unceded ancestral territories of the xwməθkwəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and sə̓lílwətaʔɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.

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episode 4: Vivek Shraya

I talk with Vivek Shraya about her writing process and her writing, including How to Fail as a Popstar and The Subtweet.

The episode transcript is available right here.

Photo of Vivek Shraya by Heather Saitz,

The podcast theme song is "Tall Girl" by Wares from the album Survival, which you can (and probably should) get via Bandcamp. (This song appears courtesy of Wares and Mint Records.)

Our logo was designed by Rojina Farrokhnejad at HandMadeDesign.

t4t is recorded and edited on the unceded ancestral territories of the xwməθkwəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and sə̓lílwətaʔɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.

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episode 6: Torrey Peters

I talk with Torrey Peters about everything from writing about shame and bodies to Hemingway and commas.

Works by Torrey that we discuss:

Some of the works/writers/etc. mentioned in this episode:

Rainer Werner Fassbinder's essay “Six Films by Douglas Sirk" (New Left Review, no. 91, May/June 1975)
Topside Press
Karl Ove Knausgård
T Fleischmann’s Time is the Thing a Body Moves Through
Ali Blythe’s Hymnswitch
Jordy Rosenberg's Confessions of the Fox
James Joyce's story "The Dead" (Here is its final sentence: "His soul swooned slowly as he heard the snow falling faintly through the universe and faintly falling, like the descent of their last end, upon all the living and the dead.")
Ernest Hemingway's six word short story: "For Sale: Baby shoes, never worn."
Ken Burns and Lynn Novick's PBS documentary Hemingway
Jackie Ess's Darryl
Gretchen Felker-Martin's Manhunt
Ryka Aoki's Light From Uncommon Stars
Jorge Luis Borges

The episode transcript will be uploaded in the not-too-distant future. (Sorry!)

Photo of Torrey Peters by Natasha Gornik.

The podcast theme song is "Tall Girl" by Wares from the album Survival, which you can (and probably should) get via Bandcamp. (This song appears courtesy of Wares and Mint Records.)

Our logo was designed by Rojina Farrokhnejad at HandMadeDesign.

t4t is recorded and edited on the unceded ancestral territories of the xwməθkwəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and sə̓lílwətaʔɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.