
Season 5 Premiere: The Future of Work
08/23/23 • 20 min
Podcast Episode! Season 5 Intro: The Future of Work
James and I sat down to ruminate and prepare for our upcoming next season: The Future of Work. It’s obvious that GPT (and especially ChatGPT) has completely saturated everyone’s brains. It seems like we’re finally seeing the veil between front-office and back-office start to tear. But most of all, we are PUMPED about this season — as both a way to learn from great guests, and as a time capsule of a unique moment in tech history.
Money Quotes
James
You’re seeing a shift from systems being systems of record to decision support.
The proliferation of low-code tools are making it much more accessible to interconnect front-office and back-office systems.
This is coming very soon: enterprise-grade GPT services that train on your data.
Intranets are usually where information goes to die.
Paul
The future of work is about the new ubiquity of really good tech. There’s a shift going on in how much businesses believe they can actually do with technology.
I see the lights turn on with more non-techie people now, when the conversation turns to what you can do with it in your business.
The fact that the world is changing so fast means that there is such a thing as “The Future of Work”.
ChatGPT made the magic of tech real to people who don’t give a crap about tech. We as techies live in a world where we have always believed [that tech could make a real difference], but now it’s clear to non-techies.
Podcast Episode! Season 5 Intro: The Future of Work
James and I sat down to ruminate and prepare for our upcoming next season: The Future of Work. It’s obvious that GPT (and especially ChatGPT) has completely saturated everyone’s brains. It seems like we’re finally seeing the veil between front-office and back-office start to tear. But most of all, we are PUMPED about this season — as both a way to learn from great guests, and as a time capsule of a unique moment in tech history.
Money Quotes
James
You’re seeing a shift from systems being systems of record to decision support.
The proliferation of low-code tools are making it much more accessible to interconnect front-office and back-office systems.
This is coming very soon: enterprise-grade GPT services that train on your data.
Intranets are usually where information goes to die.
Paul
The future of work is about the new ubiquity of really good tech. There’s a shift going on in how much businesses believe they can actually do with technology.
I see the lights turn on with more non-techie people now, when the conversation turns to what you can do with it in your business.
The fact that the world is changing so fast means that there is such a thing as “The Future of Work”.
ChatGPT made the magic of tech real to people who don’t give a crap about tech. We as techies live in a world where we have always believed [that tech could make a real difference], but now it’s clear to non-techies.
Previous Episode

Season 4 Finale: Digitally Transformed
James and I closed out our season of exploring digital transformation and its various meanings with a wrap-up conversation.
Awesome Episodes This Season
- Season 4 Premiere: Digital Transformation
- Continuous Everything with Jon Reed
- Digital Transformation as Improving Processes with Alex Jones
- De-Mystifying the Digital with Paru Sankar
- Innovation with Purpose with Diego Dora
- An Agile SAP Development Platform with Nestor Lara
- Compassion in Software with Dustin Bruzenak
- Season 4 Finale: Digitally Transformed
Money Quotes
James
In a healthy, modern enterprise, we should constantly be renewing ourselves...There’s no getting around the hard work that it takes to continue maturing your organization.
The compounding benefits you can see from “continuous everything”...it’s hard to quantify.
Paul
We still live in a world where experts are truly experts. That expertise can lead to things where, when we get in the room to do design...they themselves may not have agreed or have codified how they get their stuff done.
It has never been the case where we have digitally transformed something utterly out of a human’s hands. I have never obviated the accounting department.
If you do digital transformation, what is being transformed?
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James and Paul discuss the upcoming events in the fall conference season - especially Microsoft Power Platform Conference and SAP TechEd, and come up with their unique spin on a wish list for them.
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