
Conversational Development and Controversy
01/30/17 • 17 min
In this episode of Spotlight recorded at OSCON London 2016, Jerod talked with Sid Sijbrandij (CEO of GitLab) who was recently on The Changelog discussing GitLab’s Master Plan and a new style of development they call “Conversational Development”, to talk about how they’re executing on that plan. We also discussed the recent controversy around GitLab and the removal (and subsequent reposting) of security research data. We enjoyed hearing how Sid turns everything in to an opportunity.
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- The Changelog #220: GitLab’s Master Plan with Sid Sijbrandij
- GitLab Master Plan
- GitLab Master Plan - Live Event Recap
- GitLab Master Plan - YouTube
- Willem de Groot recently blogged about the research he did on online skimming — he published it to GitHub and they removed it without sending him a notice. Then he published it to GitLab and they did the same thing. Then GitLab changed their mind and reinstated it.
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In this episode of Spotlight recorded at OSCON London 2016, Jerod talked with Sid Sijbrandij (CEO of GitLab) who was recently on The Changelog discussing GitLab’s Master Plan and a new style of development they call “Conversational Development”, to talk about how they’re executing on that plan. We also discussed the recent controversy around GitLab and the removal (and subsequent reposting) of security research data. We enjoyed hearing how Sid turns everything in to an opportunity.
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Sponsors:
- OSCON – O’Reilly’s Open Source Convention combines the experience of the open source community with ideas and strategies for using open source tools and technologies. There’s no event quite like OSCON! Make plans now to be at OSCON May 8-11, 2017, in Austin, TX. Registration is now open — save 20% on most passes by using the code CHANGELOG20 when you register.
Featuring:
Show Notes:
- The Changelog #220: GitLab’s Master Plan with Sid Sijbrandij
- GitLab Master Plan
- GitLab Master Plan - Live Event Recap
- GitLab Master Plan - YouTube
- Willem de Groot recently blogged about the research he did on online skimming — he published it to GitHub and they removed it without sending him a notice. Then he published it to GitLab and they did the same thing. Then GitLab changed their mind and reinstated it.
Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!
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Focused on a Safe and Inclusive Node Community
In this episode of The Future of Node series recorded at Node Interactive 2016 Adam talked with Tracy Hinds, the Education Community Manager for the Node.js Foundation about the efforts being made towards a safer, inclusive community and their events, open source documentation and tooling for conferences, and everything in-between.
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This “The Future of Node” Spotlight series was produced in partnership with The Linux Foundation, the Node.js Foundation, and sponsored by IBM and StrongLoop. It was recorded at Node Interactive 2016 in Austin, TX.
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- Resources and ways to get involved with Node.js
- Check out the 2016 Node.js User Survey for Q4 as well as the results of the previous 2016 Node.js User Survey, which also has an accompanying results PDF.
- Listen to The Changelog #235 to hear from Shiya Luo about how China does Node, translations of documentation and books from English to Chinese, and the Great Firewall of China.
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The State of HTTP/2 in Node
In this episode of The Future of Node series recorded at Node Interactive 2016 Adam talked with James Snell (IBM Technical Lead for Node and member of Node’s TSC and CTC) about the work he’s doing on Node’s implementation of http2, the state of http2 in Node, what this new spec has to offer, and what the Node community can expect from this new protocol.
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- Node.js Foundation – The Node.js Foundation’s mission is to enable widespread adoption and help accelerate development of Node.js and other related modules through an open governance model that encourages participation, technical contribution, and a framework for long term stewardship by an ecosystem invested in Node.js’ success.
Featuring:
- James Snell – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, Website
- Adam Stacoviak – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
Show Notes:
This “The Future of Node” Spotlight series was produced in partnership with The Linux Foundation, the Node.js Foundation, and sponsored by IBM and StrongLoop. It was recorded at Node Interactive 2016 in Austin, TX.
- Spotlight #6: “Small Core” – Keeping Node Core Small with Sam Roberts and Thomas Watson
- Checkout the http2 repo James is working on
- Watch the talk James gave at Node Interactive — Implementing HTTP/2 for Node.js Core by James Snell
- Watch all the talks from Node Interactive
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Spotlight - Conversational Development and Controversy
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\[00:31\] Welcome to our first Spotlight series recorded at OSCON London 2016. I'm Jerod Santo, managing editor of Changelog. Sid Sijbrandij, the CEO of GitLab, was on the Changelog recently, discussing GitLab's Master Plan and a new style of development they call "conversational development." I saw down with Sid at OSCON to see how they're doing executing that plan, and we also discussed the recent controversy around GitLab and the remov
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