
Songbook: The White Rabbit Podcast
White Rabbit
Welcome to Songbook, a podcast about revolutionary music books, brought to you by White Rabbit.
In every episode host Jude Rogers and a special guest delve into the history of great writing about music by choosing a classic book, exploring its history and legacy and discussing what makes it so special. There’ll be some books you’ll have heard of, plenty you definitely won’t have, but either way this podcast is guaranteed to expand both your bookshelf and your record collection. So dive on in and feed your head...
Songbook is brought to you by White Rabbit, the imprint dedicated to the most innovative voices in music and literature.
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Music by David Holmes
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03 Stephanie Phillips on 'Paradoxical Undressing'
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08/04/22 • 42 min
Midlands-based journalist, singer and guitarist in the black feminist punk band Big Joanie and author of the book 'Why Solange Matters', Stephanie Phillips knows her stuff when it comes to music and books. So we were dead excited when she agreed to come on Songbook to talk about Kristin Hersh's memoir 'Rat Girl'.
Whilst chatting about the book Jude and Stephanie manage to cover Destiny’s Child, reading the NME in the noughties, writing teenage diaries, the dreaded 'what's it like being a woman in a band' question and why Stephanie doesn't need or indeed want to play music with men.
A brilliant chat between two brilliant women.
Books mentioned in the podcast:
Why Solange Matters by Stephanie Philips https://bit.ly/3ByoEkM
Guitar Girl by Sarra Manning https://uk.bookshop.org/books/guitar-girl/9780340860717
Paradoxical Undressing [or Rat Girl in the US] by Kristin Hersch https://bit.ly/3oNq1nV
My Rock n Roll Friend by Tracey Thorn https://bit.ly/3OVCwZs
The Raincoats by Jenn Pelly https://bit.ly/3OVOgv1
Girls to the Front: The True Story of the Riot Grrrl Revolution by Sara Marcus https://bit.ly/3oQNSTM
What Are You Doing Here?: A Black Woman's Life and Liberation in Heavy Metal by Laina Dawes https://bit.ly/3cPVymu
You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929
Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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02 Shirley Collins on 'The Land Where The Blues Began'
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07/28/22 • 55 min
British folk icon Shirley Collins welcomes Jude to her home in the Sussex countryside to talk about Alan Lomax's book The Land Where the Blues Began. A book that, as you'll discover, she feels very conflicted about.
From men taking all the credit to going to dinner at David Attenborough's house, witnessing the horrific racism of the Deep South in the 1950s to what luxuries she would take to a Desert Island, this is an epic journey of an episode.
Jude and Shirley go back a long way, and the warmth, humour and range of their chat provides an amazing insight into a true legend. For Shirley fans and newcomers alike.
Books mentioned in the podcast:
https://store.whiterabbitbooks.co.uk/collections/author-shirley-collins-pid-240068/products/america-over-the-water
https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-land-where-blues-began/9781565847392
http://www.thecopperfamily.com/the-books.html
https://uk.bookshop.org/books/1605843623_english-folk-songs-from-the-southern-appalachians-vol-1/9781935243175
https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-new-penguin-book-of-english-folk-songs/9780141194622
You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929
Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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21 Festive Special: Mat Osman on 'A Year With Swollen Appendices'
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11/30/23 • 44 min
Musician and author Mat Osman is Jude's guest on the first of our three festive special Songbook episodes and the Suede bassist stopped by to discuss Brian Eno's 1996 book A Year With Swollen Appendices.
They also chat about Mat's own writing processes, his competitive relationship with brother Richard growing up, and Suede's tour with Manic Street Preachers coming next year.
Mat's latest book, The Ghost Theatre, is a riotous and abundant piece of historical fiction based in Elizabethan London, and is out now The Ghost Theatre: Utterly transporting historical fiction, Elizabethan London as you've never seen it a book by Mat Osman. (bookshop.org)
Books mentioned in the podcast:
A Year With Swollen Appendices by Brian Eno A Year with Swollen Appendices: Brian Eno's Diary a book by Brian Eno. (bookshop.org)
Starlust by Fred Vermorel Starlust: The Secret Fantasies of Fans a book by Fred Vermorel. (bookshop.org)
Birdsong by Sebastian Faulks Birdsong a book by Sebastian Faulks. (bookshop.org)
Wonderland Avenue by Danny Sugarland Wonderland Avenue: Tales of Glamour and Excess a book by Danny Sugerman. (bookshop.org)
Nico, Songs They Never Play On The Radio by James Young Nico, Songs They Never Play on the Radio a book by James Young. (bookshop.org)
Berlin Bromley by Bertie Marshall
You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:
The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk
Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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20 Benjamin Myers on 'Head On/Repossessed'
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04/06/23 • 61 min
Award-winning author Benjamin Myers is the final guest of series 2 of Songbook, and he chats to Jude about Julian Cope's extraordinary double-volume autobiography Head On/Repossessed.
The discussion also takes in Ben's early years working in the music press, the personal significance of Jon Savage's England's Dreaming, the differences between writing novels and writing about music, and much more.
Ben's new book Cuddy, a bold and experimental retelling of the story of the hermit St. Cuthbert, unofficial patron saint of the North of England, is out now Cuddy a book by Benjamin Myers. (bookshop.org)
Books mentioned in the podcast:
The KLF by John Higgs The KLF: Chaos, Magic and the Band who Burned a Million Pounds a book by John Higgs. (bookshop.org)
Richard by Benjamin Myers Richard by Ben Myers - Pan Macmillan
Head On/Repossessed by Julian Cope Head On/Repossessed a book by Julian Cope. (bookshop.org)
I'm Not with the Band by Sylvia Patterson I'm Not with the Band: A Writer's Life Lost in Music a book by Sylvia Patterson. (bookshop.org)
England's Dreaming by Jon Savage England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)
The Truth About Rock by Dr Hugh Pyle The Truth about Rock Music - Hugh F. Pyle: 9780873988391 - AbeBooks
Muse, Odalisque, Handmaiden by Rose Simpson Muse, Odalisque, Handmaiden: A Girl's Life in the Incredible String Band a book by Rose Simpson. (bookshop.org)
Get In The Van by Henry Rollins Get in the Van : On the Road With Black Flag by Rollins, Henry: Near Fine Soft cover (1995) 2nd Edition | Books for Amnesty Bristol
You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:
The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk
Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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18 Paul Du Noyer on 'Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning'
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03/23/23 • 56 min
This week's Songbook guest, music journalist and author Paul Du Noyer, has interviewed some of the most famous musicians of all time, including Madonna, Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Amy Winehouse and Paul McCartney. He chats to Jude about Nik Cohn's groundbreaking and thrilling history of 1960s rock, Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning.
The discussion also takes in Paul's Liverpool childhood and the huge impact of The Beatles, his storied career in the music press, interviewing the iconic Amy Winehouse, and much more.
Books mentioned in the podcast:
Conversations With McCartney by Paul Du Noyer Conversations with McCartney a book by Paul Du Noyer. (bookshop.org)
John by Cynthia Lennon John a book by Cynthia Lennon. (bookshop.org)
Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom by Nik Cohn Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom: Pop from the Beginning a book by Nik Cohn. (bookshop.org)
The Beatles: The Authorised Biography by Hunter Davies The Beatles: The Authorised Biography a book by Hunter Davies. (bookshop.org)
I'm Coming To Take You To Lunch: A fantastic tale of boys, booze and how Wham! were sold to China by Simon Napier-Bell I'm Coming To Take You To Lunch: A fantastic tale of boys, booze and how Wham! were sold to China a book by Simon Napier-Bell. (bookshop.org)
Black Vinyl White Powder by Simon Napier-Bell Black Vinyl White Powder by Simon Napier-Bell | Waterstones
Up The Junction by Nell Dunn Up The Junction: A Virago Modern Classic a book by Nell Dunn. (bookshop.org)
You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:
The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk
The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)
Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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14 Cosey Fanni Tutti on 'An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics'
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02/23/23 • 45 min
Groundbreaking musician, performance artist, and writer Cosey Fanni Tutti joins Jude on this week's episode of Songbook to delve in to Daphne Oram's An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics- a remarkable study of the relationship between electronic music and technology, origninally published in 1972.
Their conversation also takes in Cosey's memories of listening to pop music as a child, her relationship with her hometown of Hull, and the importance of abandoning pre-conceptions when listening to music.
Cosey's 2022 book Re-Sisters: The Lives and Recordings of Delia Derbyshire, Margery Kempe and Cosey Fanni Tutti is a vital meditation on womanhood, creativity and self-expression, and a revelatory exploration into the lives of three visionary artists - Re-Sisters: The Lives and Recordings of Delia Derbyshire, Margery Kempe and Cosey Fanni Tutti a book by Cosey Fanni Tutti. (bookshop.org)
Books mentioned in the podcast:
Art Sex Music by Cosey Fanni Tutti Art Sex Music a book by Cosey Fanni Tutti. (bookshop.org)
An Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics by Daphne Oram Daphne Oram - an Individual Note of Music, Sound and Electronics a book by Daphne Oram. (bookshop.org)
Quantum Listening by Pauline Oliveros Quantum Listening a book by Pauline Oliveros. (bookshop.org)
Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century by Kate Molleson Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century a book by Kate Molleson. (bookshop.org)
Up Above the City, Down Beneath the Stars by Barry Adamson Up Above the City, Down Beneath the Stars a book by Barry Adamson. (bookshop.org)
You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)
Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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12 Danyel Smith on 'I, Tina'
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02/09/23 • 45 min
American author, journalist and editor Danyel Smith drops by to discuss I, Tina: My Life Story, the 1986 autobiography of the inimitable Tina Turner.
They also discuss Danyel's childhood love of pop, the ever-changing nature of fan culture in music, how people misunderstand and underestimate the power of African-American women in the music industry, and much more.
A fascinating and joyous conversation. Danyel's Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop was named the best music book of 2022 by Pitchfork - Shine Bright: A Very Personal History of Black Women in Pop a book by Danyel Smith (bookshop.org)
Books mentioned in the podcast:
I, Tina: My Life Story by Tina Turner I, Tina: My Life Story a book by Tina Turner and Kurt Loder (bookshop.org)
Flip The Script: How Women Came To Rule Hip Hop Flip The Script: How Women Came to Rule Hip Hop a book by Arusa Qureshi. (bookshop.org)
Soul Survivor by P.P. Arnold Soul Survivor: The Autobiography: The extraordinary memoir of a music icon a book by P.P. Arnold. (bookshop.org)
Lady Sings The Blues by Billie Holiday Lady Sings the Blues a book by Billie Holiday. (bookshop.org)
Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley by Peter Guralnik Careless Love: The Unmaking of Elvis Presley a book by Peter Guralnick. (bookshop.org)
Rock She Wrote: Women Write About Rock, Pop, and Rap edited by Evelyn McDonnell & Ann Powers Rock She Wrote a book by Ann Powers and Evelyn McDonnell (bookshop.org)
Her Name Is Barbara by Jim Smith B Her Name Is Barbra a book by Jim Smith (bookshop.org)
You can buy the paperback edition of Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: The Sound of Being Human a book by Jude Rogers. (bookshop.org)
Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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04 Ian Rankin on 'Touching from a Distance'
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08/11/22 • 43 min
The crimewriting legend that brought us Inspector Rebus and ardent music lover Ian Rankin joins Jude to discuss another incredible book about music and the people who make it.
Ian has picked a book about his beloved Joy Division. Touching from a Distance is written by Joy Division singer Ian Curtis's wife Deborah and was published fifteen years after he died in 1980.
In this episode they chat early music experiences, toxic masculinity and the existential thriller Ian plotted out but never quite wrote based on Joy Division’s Unknown Pleasures. There's still time Ian, there's still time!
You can pre-order Ian Rankin's new book here https://geni.us/AHeartFullOfHeadstones
Other books mentioned in the podcast:
England’s Dreaming by Jon Savage https://uk.bookshop.org/books/england-s-dreaming/9780571368549
Awopbopaloobop Alopbamboom by Nik Cohn https://uk.bookshop.org/books/awopbopaloobop-alopbamboom-pop-from-the-beginning/9781784870485
Unknown Pleasures: Inside Joy Division by Peter Hook https://uk.bookshop.org/books/unknown-pleasures-inside-joy-division/9781471148330
Substance: Inside New Order by Peter Hook https://uk.bookshop.org/books/substance-inside-new-order/9781471132421
Chapter and Verse - New Order, Joy Division and Me by Bernard Sumner https://uk.bookshop.org/books/chapter-and-verse-new-order-joy-division-and-me/9780552170499
Record Play Pause: Confessions of a Post-Punk Percussionist: the Joy Division Years: Volume I by Stephen Morris https://bit.ly/3JHMhtg
Fast Forward: Confessions of a Post-Punk Percussionist: Volume II by Stephen Morris https://bit.ly/3QDEvTv
Joy Division: Juvenes by Kevin Cummins https://uk.bookshop.org/books/joy-division-juvenes/9781788402712
Charlotte Sometimes by Penelope Farmer https://uk.bookshop.org/books/charlotte-sometimes/9780141379210
You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929
Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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23 Festive Special: David Holmes on Rememberings
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12/14/23 • 59 min
Musician, producer, and composer, David Holmes, is our final festive Songbook guest this week. He joins Jude to discuss the late, great Sinéad O'Connor's memoir Rememberings, as well as his collaboration and friendship with the global music icon.
They also talk about growing up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, the escapism of punk, David's work as a composer on some of the 21st century's biggest films and TV shows, and much, much more.
Books mentioned in the podcast:
Rememberings by Sinéad O'Connor Rememberings a book by Sinead O'Connor. (bookshop.org)
Mods by Richard Barnes Mods a book by Richard Barnes. (bookshop.org)
England's Dreaming by Jon Savage England's Dreaming a book by Jon Savage. (bookshop.org)
You can buy Jude's The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here:
The Sound of Being Human by Jude Rogers - Audiobook - Audible.co.uk
Finally, White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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06 Kate Molleson on 'Bessie Smith'
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08/25/22 • 37 min
Writer and BBC Radio 3 presenter Kate Molleson joins Jude to talk about the book Bessie Smith by Jackie Kay.
As well as digging into the life of Bessie they also discuss how music provides solace, childhood encounters with music, whether women are allowed to be straight up authorities on music, radical lyrics and the complications of discussing a female musician’s clothes.
Books mentioned in the podcast:
Sound Within Sound: Opening Our Ears to the Twentieth Century by Kate Molleson https://bit.ly/3bZkZC2
Us Conductors by Sean Michaels https://uk.bookshop.org/books/us-conductors/9781408868690
The Musical Life of Gustav Mole by Kathryn Meyrick https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-musical-life-of-gustav-mole/9780859533331
Bessie Smith by Jackie Kay https://bit.ly/3wddpuF
You can buy Jude's book The Sound of Being Human: How Music Shapes Our Lives here: https://uk.bookshop.org/books/the-sound-of-being-human-how-music-shapes-our-lives/9781474622929
Finally White Rabbit's Spotify Playlist of 'booksongs' - songs inspired by books loved by our guests - is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7chuHOeTs9jpyKpmgXV6uo
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How many episodes does Songbook: The White Rabbit Podcast have?
Songbook: The White Rabbit Podcast currently has 24 episodes available.
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The podcast is about Publishing, Music, Music History, Podcasts, Books, Arts, Music Interviews and Interviews.
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The episode title '22 Festive Special: Tracey Thorn on 'The Importance of Music to Girls'' is the most popular.
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The average episode length on Songbook: The White Rabbit Podcast is 44 minutes.
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