Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

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Slo Mo is a series of conversations hosted by bestselling author and former Chief Business Officer of Google [X], Mo Gawdat. With stunning honesty, Mo and some of his wisest friends explore the profound questions and obstacles we all face in the pursuit of purpose in our lives. Achieving happiness and fulfillment is a lifelong journey, but step one is simple: slow down, and listen.

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John Vincent - How to Truly Do Good Work and What Taoism Tells Us About the Meaning of Life

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

05/14/22 • 73 min

This week's episode is one of Slo Mo's first ever face-to-face interviews, filmed and recorded on my portable studio in a little Airbnb in London. Slo Mo is hitting the road, so expect a lot more of these in the coming weeks.
In this episode, I speak with John Vincent, whose guiding principle in life and business is a commitment to help make things better. John co-founded the fast-food chain, Leon, in 2004 with the mission to create "Naturally Fast Food": food that tastes good, does you good and is kind to the planet. He has lead projects such as the UK government’s School Food Plan and chairs the Council for Sustainable Business. John recently founded The Longhouse, a home to positively disruptive people, brands and companies that protect and improve life on earth. He is also the author of Winning Not Fighting: Why you need to rethink success and how you achieve it with the Ancient Art of Wing Tsun .
If you think this episode is going to be about the restaurant business, you will be disappointed. This is nothing short of an exploration of how we can tap back into the universal purpose of life.
Listen as we discuss:

How I met John through our mutual friend, Danny Donachie (see ep. 169)
Doing business for good vs. maintaining an image of good to do more business.
Instead of seeing life as a journey, we should see it as an opportunity to play.
Rerouting ourselves back to the present is the fundamental goal.
John’s story of founding Leon.
A primer on taoism and the difference between morality, goodness, and truth.
The role of ritual in all spiritual disciplines, and the dangers of "pop spirituality".
The truth about CEO's: they are the number one slave to the company.
A call for more Natural Capital Accounting, and why bribes were once tax deductible.
What’s the first step we can take to increase business for good?
The importance of rhythm on human longevity and how to truly dance.
What we can learning from the Time Gods.
What’s John’s biggest achievement in life?
How does John define happiness? Rediscovering yourself.

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
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Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
YouTube: @mogawdatofficial
Website: mogawdat.com
Connect with John Vincent on Twitter @johnv_leon
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy.

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Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Website: mogawdat.com
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Saturday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

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Brana Dane - The Case for Slow Fashion and a More Humane Modeling Industry

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

11/11/20 • 42 min

Today's guest is Brana Dane, best described as a "SupeRoleModel". She is a sustainability advocate, an influencer, TV host, artist, activist, and model who has both appeared and been published in some of the top magazines for some of the top beauty brands around the world. Brana fights for a fairer, more sustainable, and more humane garment and fashion industry.
As one of the leaders of the game-changing “model mafia” based out of NYC, Brana co-produces and supports sustainability focused events for models. Brana herself is a host for the global FNL Network on Amazon Prime and writes interviews for Bella Magazine on the change-makers of our time. An artist for over a decade, she has had recent gallery shows in Chelsea, Tribeca, the Hamptons and Brooklyn.
Listen as we discuss:

Struggling with self-love and the pandemic of insecurity among models
How fluctuating fashion trends can deem a model's looks desirable or not
How models develop thick skin from being criticized bluntly and consistently
The baffling comment of being told your looks don't match your personality
My personal aversion to following fashion trends
The "Model Mafia" that's pushing for changes in the fashion industry
The sad reality of how fashion garments are made and the Rana Plaza collapse
The practice of luxury fashion burning their unsold stock to maintain scarcity
A discussion on child models and their extreme vulnerability
How Brana juggles and threads activism, art, modeling, and media
Why do we treat women like objects?
The subjectivity of beauty standards.
Pro tip: admire the beauty of others rather than envy it
Seeing the way you dress as a way of showing respect to the people you're meeting
Brana's struggle with an eating disorder

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Brana Dane on Instagram @branadane, Facebook @danebrana, Twitter @branadane, and her website, branadane.com
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Charles Groenhuijsen (Part 2) - Keeping Hope Alive Amidst All the Fake News

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

10/24/20 • 32 min

For nearly 40 years, my guest today, Charles Groenhuijsen, has been a beloved and reliable figure in Dutch news media. In the mid-80s, Charles became the youngest chief correspondent ever to be stationed in Washington D.C. for Dutch television, overseeing all US news. In the 90s, he became anchor man of NOVA and the political program Het Capitool, the two most important news shows on Dutch television. In 1996 Charles returned to the United States and was appointed Bureau-chief for NOS tv and radio based in Washington D.C. Nowadays he is an independent writer, speaker and consultant who has written many columns and a number of bestselling books on American culture.
Listen to Part 1 of this episode first for a fascinating discussion on media optimism, the actually encouraging state of the world, and Charles' thoughts on the US elections and what Americans really want.
In Part 2, listen as we discuss:

Advice to our children - don't listen to us parents!
Young generations and their different types of relationships
On gay marriages and whether marriage will last after dating apps
Social media, the good and bad, and if Netflix is good for our world
The changing Fortune 500 and how even the most major companies eventually die
How the individual and the global are of equal importance
The leaders who have given us hope and inspire us
JFK: "We don't do it because it's easy. We do it because it's hard."
Covid-19's economic impact and any reasons for optimism
Fake news and the positives and negatives of the internet's information accessibility
How to combat fake news and the changes on big TV news networks
The question on all our minds: Will Donald Trump win in 2020?

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Charles Groenhuijsen on Facebook @charles.groenhuijsen and Twitter @chgroenhuijsen
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Dr. Robert Glover (Part 2) - Why Women are the Most Sexually Evolved Beings on Earth

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

11/04/20 • 40 min

Note: Despite the title, this conversation is equally for men and women. I'm aware this is a controversial conversation, but I believe it holds great value if listened to with an open mind. This is Part 2 of 2.
This is Part 2 of my discussion with Dr. Robert Glover, author of the brilliant, often life-altering, and slightly controversial bestselling classic, No More Mr. Nice Guy. It may not sound like the kind of book I'd read, but it is a little piece of self-help magic and has helped countless people recognize their own "Nice Guy Syndrome": the trait of hiding feelings and truths that we fear will get a negative reaction from other people so as to maintain the belief that we are "nice", leading to a host of toxic relationships and fundamentally dishonest behaviors.
Robert is an internationally recognized authority on the Nice Guy Syndrome, and through his book, classes, and therapy groups, he has helped thousands of Nice Guys transform from being passive, resentful victims to empowered, integrated males, transforming their professional careers and intimate relationships along the way.
In Part 2, we discuss:

Co-dependency: "I don't exist unless I'm in a relationship"
Healthy interdependence
The 'hugging until relaxed' exercise
Calm is contagious
You can want your partner, but as soon as you start needing them, you lose them
To have the best sex, there needs to be a dominance of interplay and submission
Equal does not mean the same
Using men's motivatio
n to have sex as motivation to expand their emotional intelligence
The struggle between man vs. woman as a profound catalyst for growth
The lingering effect of not having our childhood needs meet
Women are the sexual Ferraris and men are sexual mopeds
"Slut shaming"
The Disney and Hollywood effect on women's perception of monogamy
Repressing female sexuality has become par for the course
Men need a tribe

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Dr. Robert Glover on Facebook @drrobertglover, Twitter @dr_r_glover, and his website, drglover.com
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Dr. Robert Glover (Part 1) - How to Stop Being a "Nice Guy" and Get What You Want from Life

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

10/31/20 • 48 min

Note: Despite the title, this conversation is equally for men and women. Listen with an open mind. This is Part 1 of 2.
Today's guest is Dr. Robert Glover, author of the brilliant, often life-altering, and slightly controversial bestselling classic, No More Mr. Nice Guy. It may not sound like the kind of book I'd read, but it is a little piece of self-help magic and has helped countless people recognize their own "Nice Guy Syndrome": the trait of hiding feelings and truths that we fear will get a negative reaction from other people so as to maintain the belief that we are "nice", leading to a host of toxic relationships and fundamentally dishonest behaviors.
Robert is an internationally recognized authority on the Nice Guy Syndrome, and through his book, classes, and therapy groups, he has helped thousands of Nice Guys transform from being passive, resentful victims to empowered, integrated males, transforming their professional careers and intimate relationships along the way.
Before we get started, I again implore you stay open minded for this conversation. You will laugh, you may cringe, you may violently disagree or surprisingly agree, but this is as honest as discussions on human relationship dynamics can get. You will find some serious gems related to dating and maintaining relationships of any kind.
In Part 1, we discuss:

What is wrong with being a nice guy?
How 'nice guys' are often dishonest, resentful, and give to get
How Robert's second marriage was falling apart despite his best efforts to be nice
The "Victim Pukes"
The confused belief that if sex is bad and evil, why should it only be for the one you love?
The three covert contracts that lead to toxic relationships
The reason men become nice guys is due to desiring the validation of women
The crucial need for a stronger involvement of fathers in their sons' lives
Nice guy logic: "If I have needs, I'm bad, yet I want things, but won't accept them"
For women to experience sexual attraction, they need to experience emotional tension
"If a man can't stand up to me, how can he stand up for me?"
The effect of 50 Shades of Grey on society
Human women are the most sexually evolved creatures on the planet, and men are apes

Susie Flory - Bullying, Eating Disorders, and the Lasting Pain of One Cruel Comment

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

10/28/20 • 36 min

Today's guest is my darling friend Susie Flory. She bravely agreed to come on Slo Mo and tell her story of overcoming an eating disorder, childhood bullying, and simply navigating life as a twenty-something in a world with a pace and a standard that breaks many of us. At the end of the day, Slo Mo exists for stories like Susie's, and our hope is that this will help a lot of people feel understood and not alone.
Susie currently works for a marketing agency but has also built two businesses over the last four years: Susie's Larder, a Middle Eastern inspired catering service, and Susie Flory Photography, where she works as a freelance events-based photographer. She is a mental health activist who hosts the podcast, The Inside Out Series.
Listen as we discuss:

Susie's relationship with food, from hate to love
Growing up bullied and trying to remain a people pleaser
How being told she's pretty led her to focus on the wrong things
The slow drift toward an eating disorder through anxiety around her weight
Bullying and the destructive, long lasting power of one negative comment
Unrealistic beauty expectations
Teen depression and suicide
How anorexia distorts your version of yourself
What triggers the moment you finally ask for help out of any addiction or disorder
How self-esteem relates to bullying
How she'd handle the bully in retrospect
Her advice to those suffering from an eating disorder now
Being young in the modern world
"Indecision-itis"
How there's way too much choice in the dating market
Where Susie sees herself in 5 years

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Susie Flory on Facebook @suzeflory, Instagram @susieflory, and her website, susieflory.com.
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Bruce Daisley - Avoiding Burnout and Remembering the Lost Art of Feeling Bored

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

11/07/20 • 45 min

Today's guest is Bruce Daisley, one of the most respected thought leaders on the subject of workplace culture and the future of work. He has helped lead some of the world's biggest media companies, including Twitter, Google and YouTube, and has dedicated himself to making work better using evidence to devise creative solutions. He is the host of top business podcast Eat Sleep Work Repeat and the author of The Joy of Work, a bestseller.
As a fellow ex-Googler, Bruce and I immediately connected over sharing stories from the company's early days. Having been a leading force in some of the world's most revered tech companies, Bruce knows a thing or two about what makes a happy workplace. In this time of mass working from home and the other pandemic of burnout, his expertise and insights will help you, and your bosses, optimize your time by understanding what actually helps workflow efficiency and what sabotages it.
Listen as we discuss:

Bruce and I swapping stories about working at Google in the early days
How a feeling of community gets lose when a company scales
The number 150: the average limit of meaningful relationships we can have
Millennial burnout
"Whenever we treat energy as infinite, burnout is the result."
Elon Musk's insane work schedule
Research showing that more work does not mean more output
Optimizing productivity, and how anything more than 50 hours per week is too much
The 3 systems of cognition
The creative and disarming space created by boredom that allows for new ideas
Boredom is the opposite of stress
The toxicity of weekend emails and taking a "digital sabbath"
How to talk to your organization about changing your work culture
Purpose with a capital P vs. lower case P
The Monk Mode Morning: an hour of uninterrupted focus
Barack Obama, and how he hired someone to make trivial decisions for him

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Bruce Daisley on Twitter @brucedaisley, Instagram @brucedaisley, and his website, eatsleepworkrepeat.com
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Charles Groenhuijsen (Part 1) - The U.S. Elections and All the Reasons to Be Optimistic

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

10/21/20 • 34 min

For nearly 40 years, my guest today, Charles Groenhuijsen, has been a beloved and reliable figure in Dutch news media. In the mid-80s, Charles became the youngest chief correspondent ever to be stationed in Washington D.C. for Dutch television, overseeing all US news. In the 90s, he became anchor man of NOVA and the political program Het Capitool, the two most important news shows on Dutch television. In 1996 Charles returned to the United States and was appointed Bureau-chief for NOS tv and radio based in Washington D.C. Nowadays he is an independent writer, speaker and consultant who has written many columns and a number of bestselling books on American culture.
Anyone who has followed my work knows I don't care too much for politics, but I felt it was important to showcase Charles, as he is exactly the kind of journalist the world needs. He is outspoken regarding news media's focus on conveying the negative and the sensational, preaching that optimism (and realism) is not only the more ethical route for news reporting, but also, statistically, the more warranted route. Most things are better than ever, and it's about time the media helped us feel that.
In Part 1, listen as we discuss:

Optimism in the media, and how journalists and news networks can do better
How we're being raised wrong by the media that thinks "good news is not news"
How a long-term focus shows overwhelmingly positive progress in the world overall
Crisis as a catalyst for change
Things like gay marriage, which were unimaginable 30 years ago, but have happened
Good old Donald Trump
How the majority of American people want another America with more equality, climate policy, universal healthcare, gun control
The desperation emanating from Republicans pre-election
Is the US a real democracy?
Charles' advice to Americans after November 3rd
The laughable idea of trying to control the lives of others with your personal politics
Keeping hope alive

Romero Britto - Becoming the Most Licensed Artist in History with Happy Art

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

10/17/20 • 40 min

Today's guest is the world renowed Brazilian artist, Romero Britto, the founder of the Happy Art Movement. Romero has created a visual language of love, hope and happiness that blends Pop Art with Cubist-like abstraction to reflect his optimistic view of the world around him. He was self-taught from an early age, painting on scraps of paper or cardboard, before coming into his own and traveling to Paris where he was introduced to the works of Matisse and Picasso.
Britto’s work has been exhibited in galleries and museums in over 100 countries and he has created public art installations in almost every major city you can think of. He is considered the most licensed artist in history and is an activist for charitable organizations worldwide.
In this rare interview, Romero opens up and discusses his personal upbringing, parenting, and how he went from rough beginnings in Brazil to become one of the most successful artists of all time - all through art that makes people happy.
Listen as we discuss:

The underemphasized responsibility of parenting, which is to love
How there's no test for being a parent as there is a test for a driver's license
His eight siblings, his parents, and his upbringing
Romero's early shyness and how he grew into a public personality
How the responsibility of a parent is their child's impact on the world
Why Romero's art is so happy
Dealing with the worst side of art - the business
How his life is like a dream everyday
Parents need to support children's interests so they can wake up feeling happy everyday
How he comes up with so many ideas
The root of his desire to give back and his activism
His surprising stint in law school and the feelings of exclusion from the "rich kids"
Romero's thoughts on slowing down

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Romero Britto on Facebook @RomeroBrittoFanPage, Instagram @romerobritto, Twitter @brittopopart, and his website, britto.com
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy

Kasia Urbaniak (Part 1) - A Former Dominatrix on Power Dynamics and "Good Girl Conditioning"

Slo Mo: A Podcast with Mo Gawdat

11/18/20 • 44 min

Today’s guest is the one-of-a-kind (I say that confidently) Kasia Urbaniak, the founder and CEO of The Academy, a school that teaches women the foundations of power and influence. Kasia's perspective on power is unique. Over the course of nearly 20 years, she has worked as a professional Dominatrix, practiced Taoist alchemy in one of the oldest female-led monasteries in China and obtained dozens of certifications in different disciplines, including Medical Qi Gong and Systemic Constellations. Since founding The Academy in 2013, Kasia has taught hundreds of women practical tools to step into leadership positions in their relationships, families, workplaces, and wider communities. Her forthcoming book, UNBOUND: A Woman's Guide to Power, will be released in March 2021.
Kasia is announcing a unique offer for Slo Mo listeners. Any woman who pre-orders her book will gain a free seat to her incredibly valuable training, the The Good Girl Reform School, which starts November 24th and normally costs $750. Listen to this conversation and decide for yourself if you want to attend, but I absolutely recommend it. Kasia is brilliant.
(Disclaimer: Slo Mo receives no financial compensation for this endorsement, and, like all recommendations on the podcast, is genuine).
In Part 1, we discuss:

Kasia's seriously incredible story
Her experiences as a dominatrix, where you'll learn more about the art than you ever thought existed
How she went to teach other dominatrices her method
Bein born into a world that made no sense to her
The reason she become a dominatrix: earn money to pursue spiritual journey
The difference between "performing power" vs. leading from a place of care
Power dynamics, and how we find them everywhere, and how that's not a bad thing
How men don't know how to make women happy, and women stay silent and angry about it
Good girl conditioning, and how to reform it
Reacting to life with attention in vs. attention out
Curiosity is one of the best ways to get through conflict and come out with gold

Instagram: @mo_gawdat
Facebook: @mo.gawdat.official
Twitter: @mgawdat
LinkedIn: /in/mogawdat
Connect with Kasia Urbaniak on Instagram @realkasiaurbaniak, on Facebook @therealkasiaurbaniak, and kasiaurbaniak.com
Don't forget to subscribe to Slo Mo for new episodes every Sunday and Thursday. Only with your help can we reach One Billion Happy #onebillionhappy.

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