
Semiconductors and the unspoken U.S. tech policy on China, with Paul Triolo
07/15/22 • 67 min
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This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Paul Triolo, Senior VP for China and Technology Policy Lead at Dentons Global Advisors ASG, formerly and probably better known still as Albright Stonebridge Group. Paul provides an in-depth overview of today’s semiconductor landscape, from export control issues, to the unstable equilibrium between U.S., China, and Taiwan’s industries. He walks us through the strategic importance of semiconductors in U.S. national security considerations — and how unintended consequences of our current policies toward China might actually end up undermining U.S. national security.
04:45 – An overview of semiconductor geopolitics and supply chains
20:33 – Why the U.S. is cutting China off from advanced semiconductor technologies
27:02 – The shift in technology export controls from Trump to Biden
32:08 – The CHIPS Act and subsidies for the semiconductor industry
37:43 – Deterrence and Taiwan’s semiconductor industry as a “silicon shield”
46:16 – Lessons learned from the chip shortage
52:30 – Why is the U.S lighting a fire to Chinese self-sufficiency efforts?
57:57 – The implications of Pelosi’s planned visit to Taiwan
A transcript of this podcast is available at SupChina.com.
Recommendations:
Paul: Rob Dunn, A Natural History of the Future; and Ryan Hass, Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence
Kaiser: The Boys on Amazon Prime
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This week on Sinica, Kaiser chats with Paul Triolo, Senior VP for China and Technology Policy Lead at Dentons Global Advisors ASG, formerly and probably better known still as Albright Stonebridge Group. Paul provides an in-depth overview of today’s semiconductor landscape, from export control issues, to the unstable equilibrium between U.S., China, and Taiwan’s industries. He walks us through the strategic importance of semiconductors in U.S. national security considerations — and how unintended consequences of our current policies toward China might actually end up undermining U.S. national security.
04:45 – An overview of semiconductor geopolitics and supply chains
20:33 – Why the U.S. is cutting China off from advanced semiconductor technologies
27:02 – The shift in technology export controls from Trump to Biden
32:08 – The CHIPS Act and subsidies for the semiconductor industry
37:43 – Deterrence and Taiwan’s semiconductor industry as a “silicon shield”
46:16 – Lessons learned from the chip shortage
52:30 – Why is the U.S lighting a fire to Chinese self-sufficiency efforts?
57:57 – The implications of Pelosi’s planned visit to Taiwan
A transcript of this podcast is available at SupChina.com.
Recommendations:
Paul: Rob Dunn, A Natural History of the Future; and Ryan Hass, Stronger: Adapting America's China Strategy in an Age of Competitive Interdependence
Kaiser: The Boys on Amazon Prime
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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