Episode 06: Sarah Stewart Holland & Beth Silvers of Pantsuit Politics : Questions Askers + Nuance Seekers
10/24/19 • 70 min
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Today I am honored to share my conversation with two incredible women, Beth Silvers and Sarah Stewart Holland. Sarah and Beth are the co-hosts of the bi-partisan political podcast Pantsuit Politics and the co-authors of the book I Think You’re Wrong, but I’m Listening: A Guide to Grace-Filled Political Conversations. Sarah and Beth are committed to creating a space to talk through the hard things that are surrounding us in grace-filled and nuanced ways.
You may be someone who has always struggled with this topic (and listen, friend, I’m right there with you) and you are thinking “Em, that’s great, but why do I need to care about politics? Why should I be informed at all?” As my friend Stephanie and I discussed this summer, there is so much happening in the world and in our country that really impacts people and if we don’t know what’s going on, how we can listen to their story with deeper empathy and how can we speak the Gospel into their pain if we don’t have context for it?
I know this is hard stuff, you guys. Believe me. But people matter, it isn’t about the politics per say, its about being willing to walk in the hard with our neighbors.
Additionally, I would HIGHLY recommend their book. It is not about politics and specific agendas at all, it is literally what it says: a guide to grace filled conversation about hard things. As you head into the holiday season with this insane political upheaval happening around us, an election year in the making, and you approach the various tables in your sphere of influence, couldn’t we all use some reminding about the people behind the stories and experiences that surround us? We have to got to remember that we may not always agree, and we won’t, that’s not how humanity works, but we can be better humans to one another. You matter, friend. And so does your neighbor.
Resources:
Pedro and AIDS and “The Real World”
OJ Simpson // You also can see “The People vs. OJ Simpson”
I Think You’re Wrong But I’m Listening: A Guide to Grace Filled Political Conversations (affiliate link)
“A League of Their Own”- “Of course its hard. That’s what makes it so great.”
One and two of many articles in reference to families being shifted by certain news outlets.
My original #metoo post from instagram
Brown Vs. The Board of Education Topeka
Ash Abercrombie // Our episode on Simply Stories Podcast
Pantsuit Politics Live from Evolving Faith Conference
Scripture References:
Today I am honored to share my conversation with two incredible women, Beth Silvers and Sarah Stewart Holland. Sarah and Beth are the co-hosts of the bi-partisan political podcast Pantsuit Politics and the co-authors of the book I Think You’re Wrong, but I’m Listening: A Guide to Grace-Filled Political Conversations. Sarah and Beth are committed to creating a space to talk through the hard things that are surrounding us in grace-filled and nuanced ways.
You may be someone who has always struggled with this topic (and listen, friend, I’m right there with you) and you are thinking “Em, that’s great, but why do I need to care about politics? Why should I be informed at all?” As my friend Stephanie and I discussed this summer, there is so much happening in the world and in our country that really impacts people and if we don’t know what’s going on, how we can listen to their story with deeper empathy and how can we speak the Gospel into their pain if we don’t have context for it?
I know this is hard stuff, you guys. Believe me. But people matter, it isn’t about the politics per say, its about being willing to walk in the hard with our neighbors.
Additionally, I would HIGHLY recommend their book. It is not about politics and specific agendas at all, it is literally what it says: a guide to grace filled conversation about hard things. As you head into the holiday season with this insane political upheaval happening around us, an election year in the making, and you approach the various tables in your sphere of influence, couldn’t we all use some reminding about the people behind the stories and experiences that surround us? We have to got to remember that we may not always agree, and we won’t, that’s not how humanity works, but we can be better humans to one another. You matter, friend. And so does your neighbor.
Resources:
Pedro and AIDS and “The Real World”
OJ Simpson // You also can see “The People vs. OJ Simpson”
I Think You’re Wrong But I’m Listening: A Guide to Grace Filled Political Conversations (affiliate link)
“A League of Their Own”- “Of course its hard. That’s what makes it so great.”
One and two of many articles in reference to families being shifted by certain news outlets.
My original #metoo post from instagram
Brown Vs. The Board of Education Topeka
Ash Abercrombie // Our episode on Simply Stories Podcast
Pantsuit Politics Live from Evolving Faith Conference
Scripture References:
Previous Episode
Episode 05: Davis Bunn: Author + Film Writer
My conversation on this episode of the Simply Stories Podcast is with international best-selling and award winning author, film writer, and all around renaissance man, Davis Bunn.
Davis shares his life story of seeing the world and reaping its successes, only to encounter the Lord later in his life and deciding following Him was worth pursuing a whole other life and career.
Now with twenty-five years worth of publishing fiction novels that span multiple genres, Davis crafts stories that move readers to look for the good in the world around them and in the One who made them. He also has moved into the film writing world, which he discusses some of that journey with me, but his latest novel Unscripted carries incredible details and an inside look into the world of film making as well. It’s an incredible story, with a wild ride of unpredictable turns that leave you turning page after page, and so engrossed in the story that you find yourself invited into the room where it happens alongside his fantastic band of misfits longing for second chances.
Davis also shares such good wisdom and insight for those of us have creative capabilities in how we approach new things and new possibilities. Davis challenges us to be willing to pursue humility and know that we are never truly done learning, nor should we limit what God can do with His story and His people when they submit their story to Him.
There is so much possibility when we submit our creativity to our Creator. Davis’ life and career is a powerful testimony of this truth, and I hope it encourages you to remember that the same is true for you, friend.
Scripture:
Resources:
Unscripted by Davis Bunn (affiliate link)
The amazing Isabella Bunn (Davis’ fabulous wife)
The Chronicles of Narnia- The whole series in one book! (affiliate link)
Harry Potter - J.K. Rowling
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Episode 07: Bethany Turner: Fiction Author + Faith Meets Pop Culture
Today’s conversation with award winning author Bethany Turner is just another picture about why I love getting the perspective of Christian fiction authors because they bring such a creative view of the world around us, the church and how popular culture and faith meet head on. Bethany is a master of processing real life issues with wit and grace, mixed with a healthy dose rom-com and the result is truly delightful. In our conversation, we discuss her new newest book Wooing Cadie McCaffery (affectionately known as #WooCaM), but we also take a DEEP dive into a fascinating discussion that ended up being more timely than we could have ever known.
Her debut Christian Fiction novel is called The Secret Life of Sarah Hollenbeck and first of all, and while it is a fantastic read, and snort out loud hilarious, it is a story of a mainstream author, known for salacious work, becoming a Christian and her journey to figure out life with Jesus, while still wearing the same skin made famous for feeding empty hearts with worldly yuck. Within the last few months we have seen huge Hollywood names making proclamations of faith and one of them in particular, released work that demonstrates his declaration of faith and there is a significant conversation in the church about whether or not we believe Kanye or anyone else’s conversion. Ironically enough, it is a very similar tale for Sarah Hollenbeck. Isn’t. That. Interesting. Now, I know fiction isn’t Gospel, but it can absolutely, if we are willing, allow us to ask ourselves some hard questions. Would we believe the testimony of a Sarah Hollenbeck? Will we believe Kanye West? Or Brad Pitt or Justin Beiber and etc.? And if you’ll allow me, would we have believed Rahab, Ruth, Mary Magdalene, the adulterous woman, Saul who became Paul or anyone else who lived a sin wrecked and saturated life before they encountered their Savior? God is trustworthy with their story and if it brings Him glory and draws others to Himself, then Lord, use it. The end.
PS: Both The Secret Life of Ssrah Hollenbeck and Wooing Cadie McCaffrey are on MEGA sale on amazon right now. You can find links to those and to ways to listen in my bio. :) If you enjoy this conversation, I’d be honored if you shared it, and be sure you go and follow Bethany! Her social media presence always brightens my week.
References:
The Secret Life of Sarah Hollenbeck (affiliate link) I don’t know how long this sale will go on but Y’ALL the Kindle version of this book is on sale for less than $5 right now!!!!! Treat. Yo. Self.
Wooing Cadie McCaffrey (affiliate link) And this Kindle version is on sale for less than $2. That’s insane. Get it while you can!
Redeeming Love - (affiliate link)
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