Marcel Kuijsten - Julian Jaynes and the Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind
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10/06/22 • 145 min
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There are few words in circulation with as many disparate & ill-defined interpretations as “consciousness” & no one, as far as I’m concerned, has narrowed down a more concise definition thanJulian Jaynes in his 📖 The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.
Marcel Kuijsten founded the Julian Jaynes Society & has, along w a range of experts in various disciplines, continued to distribute, distill, explain, & expand upon Jaynes’ work through a number of publications that clarify the theory, dispel misconceptions, & present a growing body of evidence to support it. His latest 📖 is titled Conversations on Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind.
All of this complex material is meticulously researched & articulated, & in this episode Marcel & I do our best to navigate & outline the theory’s various facets & examine its implications.
During the intro I relay the story of my time “playing dead for a living” on the set of Westworld, a show about a themepark of AI-cowboys-gone-wild, which heavily leans on Jaynes’ theory to fulfill its narrative arc.
Find/follow the JJS: Twitter: @julianjaynessoc https://www.julianjaynes.org/
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( 🎧 &"introspectacles" recommended 4 optimal immersion & enjoyment )
There are few words in circulation with as many disparate & ill-defined interpretations as “consciousness” & no one, as far as I’m concerned, has narrowed down a more concise definition thanJulian Jaynes in his 📖 The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.
Marcel Kuijsten founded the Julian Jaynes Society & has, along w a range of experts in various disciplines, continued to distribute, distill, explain, & expand upon Jaynes’ work through a number of publications that clarify the theory, dispel misconceptions, & present a growing body of evidence to support it. His latest 📖 is titled Conversations on Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind.
All of this complex material is meticulously researched & articulated, & in this episode Marcel & I do our best to navigate & outline the theory’s various facets & examine its implications.
During the intro I relay the story of my time “playing dead for a living” on the set of Westworld, a show about a themepark of AI-cowboys-gone-wild, which heavily leans on Jaynes’ theory to fulfill its narrative arc.
Find/follow the JJS: Twitter: @julianjaynessoc https://www.julianjaynes.org/
✍🏻 "From Mind's Eye to Ai"
Extended Shownotes (🎶 credits, art,links,resources)
The Ungoogleable Michaelangelo www.theungoogleable.com
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