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Self Portraits As Other People - JF Martel - Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artificial Intelligence
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JF Martel - Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artificial Intelligence

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08/21/22 • 126 min

Self Portraits As Other People

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“Art is the only truly effective means we have of engaging, in a communal context, the psyche on its own terms,” writes jF Martel, the co-host of the Weird Studies podcast and the author of the brilliant book “Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice”, in which he distills a clear, working definition of art, in relation to its antithesis, artifice.

Treating the episode as a book report, we use the philosophy put forth in its pages as a springboard to examine the implications of ai-generated images, and the potential consequences of outsourcing one’s intuitive sensibilities to a dreaming machine.

Correction: Titanic was 1911, not whatever year I proposed

Find/follow JF: Twitter: @JF_Martel www.reclaimingart.com podcast: www.weirdstudies.com

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(( headphones recommended for optimal immersion and enjoyment ))

“Art is the only truly effective means we have of engaging, in a communal context, the psyche on its own terms,” writes jF Martel, the co-host of the Weird Studies podcast and the author of the brilliant book “Reclaiming Art in the Age of Artifice”, in which he distills a clear, working definition of art, in relation to its antithesis, artifice.

Treating the episode as a book report, we use the philosophy put forth in its pages as a springboard to examine the implications of ai-generated images, and the potential consequences of outsourcing one’s intuitive sensibilities to a dreaming machine.

Correction: Titanic was 1911, not whatever year I proposed

Find/follow JF: Twitter: @JF_Martel www.reclaimingart.com podcast: www.weirdstudies.com

Extended shownotes (art, links, resources)


NEWish From The Ungoogleable:

My latest essay: Dreamtime Screentime: Pareidolic Deities & Dead Channels

Buy my book The He & The She Of It


The Ungoogleable Michaelangelo: www.theungoogleable.com

IG: void_denizen

YT, Twitter, TikTok, etc: https://Linktr.ee/void_denizen


WAYS TO SUPPORT SELF PORTRAITS AS OTHER PEOPLE:

-Subscribe

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-Rate (*****)

-Review

-patreonize us (http://www.patreon.com/voiddenizen)

-donate: Venmo (@voiddenizen) or paypal ([email protected])


All music by Ungoogleably Yours, except the Leonard Cohen karaoke backing track, ripped from YT. Outro "Eclipse (Halfway)" by Void Denizen (spotify)

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undefined - Jake Kobrin - Interfacial Magick

Jake Kobrin - Interfacial Magick

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Proficient in both digital & traditional media, Jake is one of the few formally trained visionary artists. I was his guest on ep.10 of The Quarantine Sessions, a podcast he began hosting at the onset of the pandemic. Nowadays he sporadically casts pods as solo spells, wherein he discusses his study & practice of Magick.

Alongside a curated pantheon of experts and professionals Jake also facilitates Online workshops & in-person retreats that focus on the intersection of art, mindfulness, & the western esoteric tradition.

We talk about his recent ventures into co-creating w/ Midjourney, where text-prompted spells generate AI-art. We relate the process to divinatory practices, & consider that perhaps egregorial entities are the mind’s own AI agencies.

We also touch upon his rarely discussed experience w/ hook suspension.

Though it’s not his main avenue of expression, Jake also plays music, & I included one of his piano compositions in the intro to showcase the scope of his multivalent talent.

Find/follow Jake: IG: @.kobrin. www.jakekobrin.com

Extended shownotes (art, links, resources, etc)


NEWish From The Ungoogleable:

My latest essay: Dreamtime Screentime: Pareidolic Deities & Dead Channels

Buy my book The He & The She Of It


The Ungoogleable Michaelangelo: www.theungoogleable.com

IG: void_denizen

YT, Twitter, TikTok, etc: https://Linktr.ee/void_denizen


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All music by Ungoogleably Yours, except the "Leibnitz" piano piece by J.Kobrin Outro "Tragic Magic" by Void Denizen (spotify)

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undefined - Marcel Kuijsten - Julian Jaynes and the Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind

Marcel Kuijsten - Julian Jaynes and the Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind

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There are few words in circulation with as many disparate & ill-defined interpretations as “consciousness” & no one, as far as I’m concerned, has narrowed down a more concise definition thanJulian Jaynes in his 📖 The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.

Marcel Kuijsten founded the Julian Jaynes Society & has, along w a range of experts in various disciplines, continued to distribute, distill, explain, & expand upon Jaynes’ work through a number of publications that clarify the theory, dispel misconceptions, & present a growing body of evidence to support it. His latest 📖 is titled Conversations on Consciousness and the Bicameral Mind.

All of this complex material is meticulously researched & articulated, & in this episode Marcel & I do our best to navigate & outline the theory’s various facets & examine its implications.

During the intro I relay the story of my time “playing dead for a living” on the set of Westworld, a show about a themepark of AI-cowboys-gone-wild, which heavily leans on Jaynes’ theory to fulfill its narrative arc.

Find/follow the JJS: Twitter: @julianjaynessoc https://www.julianjaynes.org/


✍🏻 "From Mind's Eye to Ai"

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Ft. music by Soularflair, Jeff Cravath & me

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