Episode 4.18 Running out of Fucks to Give with Carolyn Camman

This week I’m talking to evaluation consultant and podcaster Carolyn Camman about radicalizing the apocalypse, queering objectivity, learning to listen to our bodies, and what the heck evaluation actually is. I learned a ton from this conversation, and I think you will, too! Here are some links!

• To learn more about Carolyn, read this recent blog post about re-framing evaluation as an accountability mechanism); listen to the Eval Café podcast; and check out the Evaluation colouring book!
• To contextualize our conversation about apocalypse, we talked about the podcast “How to Survive the End of the World” as well as Kai Cheng Thom’s book I Hope We Choose Love: A Trans Girl’s Notes from the End of the World
• Carolyn also recommended “Changing the Culture of Research: An Introduction to the Triangulation of Meaning” by Manulani Aluli-Meyer and “Positional Objectivity” by Amartya Sen
• I recommended that you watch Netflix’s The Dragon Prince
• Here’s more on that story about settlers fleeing to remote Indigenous communities to avoid COVID-19
• You can watch the webinar on “Safe and Equitable Engagement Spaces in the Age of COVID-19” on YouTube!
• Read up on Decolonizing Wealth!
• Here’s a quick explanation of CERB and an article on safe supply in BC, for the non-Canadians out there.
• Learn more about the SFU certificate in Evaluation for Social Change and Transformational Learning and particularly the first course of that certificate, Transformative Evaluation Landscape, taught by Kim van der Woerd of Reciprocal Consulting, an Indigenous women-led evaluation consulting firm
• Read up on The Equitable Evaluation Initiative, which is run by Jara Dean-Coffey of The Luminare Group, and while you’re at it learn more about the LEVEL youth grants from the Vancouver Foundation, which are being evaluated using the EE framework
• And finally, an introduction to prison abolition.

The podcast theme song is “Mesh Shirt” by Mom Jeans off their album “Chub Rub.” Listen to the whole album here or learn more about them here. Carolyn’s theme song was “Adieu” by AIZA.

Secret Feminist Agenda is recorded and produced by Hannah McGregor on the traditional and unceded territories of the Squamish, Musqueam, and Tsleil-Waututh First Nations.