3: Telling Tales, Wrestling Whales (ft. Ben Johnson of Elegant Seagulls)

In this episode, Andrew and Chris interview Ben Johnson of Elegant Seagulls. The discussion explores the value that design storytelling, empathy, and differentiating your brand (business, startup, or brand) can create. Communication, messaging, and marketing all play a huge role in user experience. They also talk about The Jack Dusty Experiment, a successful testament to Elegant Seagull's approach to experimentation and storytelling.