
Internal vs external change agent - Danny de Wild
09/12/22 • 37 min
In this episode Sjoerd chats with Danny de Wild, agile coach and change agent. Danny currently works for Prowareness as a consultant, and has worked in the Dutch Police for many years before, playing a key part in using agile to improve police work.
We explore Danny’s personal experiments and lessons, how being a consultant adds a different dynamic to agile coaching from being an internal employee. Expect topics like ownership, culture and how transparency helps improve and collaborate. We also discuss facilitation, the importance of preparation and power of small talk for safety and participation. Danny also shares his most recent learning about Karpman’s Drama Triangle and how he puts it to practice when coaching individuals and their interactions.
Like every episode, Danny also answers and asks a great question. What it is? Listen and find out! I also put the idea out there to answer all the questions as Scrum Facilitators, so now that it’s out there, we might have to actually do it!
- Karpman Triangle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle
- Just Dig It (charity): https://justdiggit.org
- Sapiens Book: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0099590085/
- Agile Community for Dutch Government Meetup: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12672389
- Danny de Wild on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-de-wild-35a054160/
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In this episode Sjoerd chats with Danny de Wild, agile coach and change agent. Danny currently works for Prowareness as a consultant, and has worked in the Dutch Police for many years before, playing a key part in using agile to improve police work.
We explore Danny’s personal experiments and lessons, how being a consultant adds a different dynamic to agile coaching from being an internal employee. Expect topics like ownership, culture and how transparency helps improve and collaborate. We also discuss facilitation, the importance of preparation and power of small talk for safety and participation. Danny also shares his most recent learning about Karpman’s Drama Triangle and how he puts it to practice when coaching individuals and their interactions.
Like every episode, Danny also answers and asks a great question. What it is? Listen and find out! I also put the idea out there to answer all the questions as Scrum Facilitators, so now that it’s out there, we might have to actually do it!
- Karpman Triangle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karpman_drama_triangle
- Just Dig It (charity): https://justdiggit.org
- Sapiens Book: https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0099590085/
- Agile Community for Dutch Government Meetup: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12672389
- Danny de Wild on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danny-de-wild-35a054160/
Are you working with Scrum or Agile and have similar stories and tips to share? Or do you know someone that you want to voluntell to be a guest? Reach out!
- Podcast inbox: [email protected]
- All other episodes: https://scrumfacilitators.buzzsprout.com
- Subscribe from your favorite player: https://scrumfacilitators.buzzsprout.com/share
- Scrum Facilitators website: https://scrumfacilitators.com
- Sjoerd Kranendonk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjoerdkranendonk
Are you working with Scrum/Agile and have similar stories and tips to share? Or do you know someone that you want to voluntell to be a guest? Reach out! [email protected]
Also check out our website, LinkedIn and Meetup
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Scrum Facilitators Community podcast - Internal vs external change agent - Danny de Wild
Transcript
This this agile organization was my little baby and it was mine.
Welcome to the Scrum Facilitators Community Podcast. The place for real conversations around Scrum. Hi and welcome to the Scrum Facilitators Community Podcast. I am your host, Sjoerd Kranendonk. And today I'm talking to Danny de Wild a former colleague of mine, about a, I hope interesting topic comparing acting as a consultant as a change agent or scrum master, agile coach
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