
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
Ken Lempit
Join us as we interview CEOs and CMOs of fast-growing SaaS firms to reveal what they are doing that’s working, and lessons learned from things that didn’t work as planned. These deep conversations dive into the dynamic world of SaaS B2B marketing, go-to-market strategies, and the SaaS business model. Content focuses on the pragmatic as well as strategic, providing a well-rounded diet for those running SaaS firms today. Hosted by Ken Lempit, Austin Lawrence Group’s president and chief business builder, who brings over 30 years of experience and expertise in helping software companies grow and their founders achieve their visions.
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Ep. 158 - 97% of SaaS Churn at First Opportunity is Decided in the First 90 Days—Onboarding Is the Key
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03/14/25 • 31 min
Guest: Srikrishnan Ganesan, Co-Founder & CEO of Rocketlane
Most B2B SaaS leaders know that onboarding is important but underestimate its impact.
The reality is that 97% of churn at first opportunity is decided in the first 90 days, making onboarding the most critical stage in the customer journey and the defining factor in revenue growth and long-term customer success.
In this episode, Sri Ganesan, Co-Founder and CEO of Rocketlane, shares how SaaS companies can transform onboarding from a fragmented process into a strategic advantage. From community-led growth to automation-driven efficiency, he reveals what top SaaS companies do differently to drive retention, expansion, and revenue acceleration.
Key Takeaways:
- Onboarding Determines Retention & Growth: The first 90 days define whether customers will churn or expand.
- Community-Led Growth Builds Credibility: Building an engaged audience before launch fosters trust and momentum.
- Automation Eliminates Inefficiency: Siloed tools slow teams down; all-in-one platforms drive success.
- Market Validation is Critical: The biggest factor in startup success isn’t the product—it’s picking the right market.
Sri shares actionable strategies for SaaS CMOs and CROs to create onboarding experiences that drive retention, expansion, and revenue acceleration—making this episode a must-listen.
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Ep. 121 - The Art of the Exit: SaaS Strategies and Insights - with Jeremy Lessaris, CEO of Payment Brokers
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05/03/24 • 36 min
Building a business with the intention of a future sale requires meticulous planning and organization from the outset.
In this episode, Payment Brokers Founder and CEO Jeremy Lessaris, a serial founder with multiple successful exits, emphasizes the importance of the early organization of books, records, contracts, and agreements as a critical factor in boosting valuation and streamlining the exit process.
Jeremy also stresses the significance of maintaining a well-organized data room for due diligence during a business sale. He recommends creating a dashboard with KPIs and metrics to provide a clear overview of the company's performance and demonstrate the business's progress to potential buyers.
Throughout this episode, Jeremy explains how SaaS entrepreneurs can position their companies for a seamless exit process and maximize their valuation when it comes time to sell.
This episode is ideal for SaaS CEOs and CMOs seeking strategies for accelerating growth, enhancing profitability, and understanding the importance of building a business with a focus on revenue and profitability from the start.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- Focusing on revenue generation early
- Keeping costs low while striving to reach revenue milestones
- The value of mentorship in helping entrepreneurs navigate business challenges
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Ep. 120 - The Role of AI in SaaS Solutions: A Deep Dive - with Brandon Most, Head of Marketing at GoLinks
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
04/26/24 • 33 min
Enterprise search has been around for quite some time, and it often conjures images of outdated intranet searches within the confines of an organization's internal networks.
So how do you shift the focus from “old school” methods to a more dynamic, AI-powered approach that connects various applications, enabling intelligent query responses and contextually relevant summaries?
That’s the gist of the conversation with Brandon Most, Head of Marketing at GoLinks. In this episode, he also delves into the unique challenges of marketing multiple products with distinct brand identities and how to manage this strategically within the market's shifting dynamics.
Overall, this episode covers product-led growth, enterprise search solutions, marketing strategies, analyst relations, and the importance of professional networking. CEOs, CMOs, and professionals in the SaaS industry, especially those interested in innovative marketing approaches, product differentiation, and building strong industry connections, can benefit from Brandon's practical advice and experiences.
Key Takeaways from this episode:
- The transition from a product-led growth model to an enterprise motion, adapting to market changes and budget shifts.
- The nuances of executing a multi-product marketing strategy and the importance of qualified pipeline metrics over mere volume.
- The role of peer review sites in generating demand and supporting SEO efforts.
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Ep. 117 - How SaaS Companies Can Convert 30% More Web Traffic in 90 Days - with Sahil Patel, CEO of Spiralyze
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04/05/24 • 31 min
If you went to the doctor for a sore throat and she said, “Last time I had one, this is what helped me get better” versus “I looked at the clinical trial evidence for 5000 people with your symptoms in your age range, geographics, and background,” which of those solutions is more viable?
That’s how Sahil Patel, CEO of Spiralyze views the world of A/B testing.
Spiralyze crawls and scrapes 34,000 websites that A/B test to find the repeat winners, analyze why they won, and run those same tests for its clients.
And the results are impressive–they often demonstrate a 20 to 30 percent lift in conversions from the traffic they’re already getting.
Even their homepage message guarantees a 30% conversion lift in 90 days.
Having been a client of Spiralyze at his previous company, Patel’s journey as their CEO harkens back to Victor Kiam’s famous 1979 ad boasting that he liked Remington razors so much that he “bought the company.”
This episode is ideal for CEOs and CMOs of B2B SaaS companies looking to gain insights on conversion rate optimization, A/B testing, and making specific quantitative claims to attract and convert leads effectively.
Key Takeaways from this episode:
- Is that video on your homepage hero helping you or hurting you?
- Why an email box next to your demo CTA will convert higher than sending to a landing page
- Why making bold, quantitative, and specific claims on your website will boost your credibility
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Ep. 116 - Leveraging Feedback for SaaS Product Management Success - with Satya Ganni, CEO of Beamer & Userflow
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
03/29/24 • 30 min
Feedback is not just a tool for improving products, but a strategic asset that can drive growth, innovation, and competitive advantage.
In this episode, Satya Ganni, CEO of Beamer and Userflow, explains the importance of feedback in reducing churn in product-led SaaS companies.
Feedback provides valuable insights into customer needs, preferences, and pain points, which makes it a critical component of product management success.
By listening to customer feedback, Beamer is able to identify areas for improvement, prioritize feature development, make informed decisions about product strategy, reduce churn, and drive success.
Actively soliciting and incorporating customer feedback can also help companies ensure that their products meet their target audience's needs and continuously improve to stay ahead of the competition.
Additionally, Satya discusses the recent merger of Beamer and Userflow, two product adoption and engagement platforms for product-led SaaS companies, to create a leading platform in their industry.
This episode includes insights on customer feedback, reducing churn, and the key pillars of PLG, making it valuable for entrepreneurs and executives looking to enhance their product adoption and engagement strategies in the SaaS industry.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- The challenges and opportunities of merging Beamer and Userflow
- The foundational pillars that product-led SaaS companies should prioritize to achieve success
- How addressing churn factors helps retain customers and build long-term relationships
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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And the best part?
💡 It’s completely free.
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Ep. 114 - Navigating SaaS Growth: Warmly's Strategic Pivot to Category Creation - with Alan Zhao, Head of Marketing
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
03/15/24 • 38 min
As a startup with shaky product market fit, prospective customers often want to associate you with a mature category so they can determine where it might fit in their tech stack—or not.
But for Warmly, the existing categories represented only a small subset of their capabilities—albeit cheaper than the mature tools.
And they couldn’t just settle for being known as "Drift but cheaper.”
In this episode, Alan Zhao details his transition from CTO to marketing chief, a move that was pivotal in steering Warmly’s narrative away from established market constructs and taking control over the narrative that would differentiate itself from the myriad of sales tools on the market.
This episode is ideal for SaaS CEOs and CMOs looking to accelerate growth and enhance profitability through autonomous revenue orchestration and AI chat solutions.
Other key takeaways from this episode:
- The pros and cons of “category creation” to set yourself apart from competitors
- The importance of tailoring your message to address specific pain points for each segment
- How to better understand the buyer journey of the 95% of those who visit your website but don’t fill out a form
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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And the best part?
💡 It’s completely free.
No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos.
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Ep. 112 - Stumbling onto SaaS Product-Market Fit by Accident – with Morten Poulsen, CEO of Plytix
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03/01/24 • 36 min
Originally, the founders of Plytix set out to create an analytics platform for e-commerce that measured the performance of a product (instead of a website) so brands could see how end users interact with them, even when sold on a third-party website.
But even after positive early traction and investment, they were stalled—many of the brands didn’t have their product information at the ready.
So, they built a simple source of truth—a Product Information Management (PIM) so they could get access to the product information that they needed.
As it turns out, that was the larger need from SMBs—a PIM they could afford.
After realizing the broader market opportunity, Plytix leaders made some hard choices and pivoted.
This episode of SaaS Backwards is ideal for SaaS CEOs and CMOs looking to accelerate growth and enhance profitability, especially those interested in PIM systems for small and medium-sized businesses.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- The nuances of being a European-based SaaS targeting the US market
- The importance of understanding the customer creation engine before implementing an attribution model
- The challenges of scaling beyond the ceiling of just in-market leads
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations.
And the best part?
💡 It’s completely free.
No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos.
Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

Ep. 111 - Boosting SaaS Collaboration & Retention in a Hybrid World - with Jonathan Fields, CEO & Co-founder of Assembly
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02/23/24 • 33 min
Having moved from a miserable culture in investment banking to an incredibly positive one at tech startup ZipRecruiter, Jonathan Fields learned early in his career the profound impact culture has on an organization.
So inspired, in fact, that he and his co-founders worked nights and weekends to create a platform that could make those elements scalable and easy for companies to adopt.
The result is Assembly, a platform that focuses on creating opportunities for coworkers to connect beyond work-related tasks has enhanced the overall employee experience and fostered a sense of community within organizations.
Initially, when they surveyed people about what they want from work culture, there weren’t a lot of surprises: they want to feel recognized, appreciated, and acknowledged for their hard work. They also want mentorship and career development opportunities.
But as companies moved to more hybrid work during the pandemic (and remain so today), one new concept dwarfed the others in comparison: the “work best friend.”
So, to emulate those types of interactions in their platform (beyond Zoom happy hours), they created channels for culture ideas, such as pets, volunteering, and favorite company moments channels, to facilitate interactions between coworkers beyond work-related tasks.
Profitable since day one, Assembly has successfully positioned itself as a thought leader by focusing on content development early and today has attracted $14.5M in funding.
This episode is ideal for SaaS CEOs and CMOs looking to accelerate growth and enhance profitability through employee recognition, engagement, and rewards platforms.
Key takeaways from this episode:
- How investing in thought leadership and content creation early helped establish credibility and drove sales inbound.
- How to position your SaaS as a “must have” versus a “nice-to-have”
- The importance of researching the landscape, competitors, and buyers before diving into a venture.
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch.
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We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations.
And the best part?
💡 It’s completely free.
No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos.
Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.

Ep. 110 – The Dangerous 8 Mistakes SaaS Companies Make in their Messaging
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
02/02/24 • 30 min
Are you making one or more of these mistakes in your messaging?
Given the number of websites that we review regularly, chances are that you are—and that means leaving revenue on the table.
In this episode, Ken and Jason from Austin Lawrence Group discuss the eight common mistakes that SaaS companies make with real-life examples.
So if you’re a SaaS CEO or CMO revisiting messaging and content strategy this year, or you’re frustrated with the quality of leads coming through your website, this episode is for you.
A few key takeaways:
- How to avoid making vague statements that cause cognitive dissonance with some prospective buyers.
- Why you shouldn’t lead with AI
- Why it’s crucial to gain problem agreement by clearly identifying and addressing the problem they’re trying to solve.
Other resources to check out:
Interview with Vinay Bhagat, Founder and CEO of TrustRadius who publishes a yearly report about how B2B buyer behavior is changing.
The Lead Gen Mistake I Guarantee You’re Making – how to create content that better identifies intent from today’s b2b buyer.
And, if you want an outside look at your content with actionable advice, take advantage of our Content Audit. Valued at $20K in free consulting.
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Your messaging could be turning buyers away before you even get a chance to pitch.
🔗 Get a Free Messaging & Conversion Review
We’ll analyze your website and content through the eyes of your buyers to uncover what’s stopping them from booking a demo. Then, we’ll give you a personalized report with practical recommendations to help you turn more visitors into sales conversations.
And the best part?
💡 It’s completely free.
No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos.
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Ep. 160 - AI Is Rewriting the SaaS Playbook—Are You Ready?
SaaS Backwards - Reverse Engineering SaaS Success
04/04/25 • 38 min
Guests: Ken Lempit, James Ollerenshaw, & Rob Curtis
AI is transforming SaaS—but not in the way most leaders think.
Forget the headlines claiming "SaaS is dead." The real shift isn't just in tools—it's in how fast software is built, marketed, and bought.
In this episode, Rob Curtis (VC-backed founder), Ken Lempit (SaaS GTM strategist), and James Ollerenshaw (AI advisor) break down what AI means for the future of SaaS—and why B2B CROs and CMOs need to rethink their strategy now or risk falling behind.
From the death of mid-market software to the rise of agentic AI, they map out how SaaS leaders can adapt, differentiate, and thrive in this new reality.
Key Takeaways:
- Agentic AI is here: Build for agents, not just users.
- The middle is collapsing: Niche depth and data win.
- Ideas now beat execution: Speed favors bold builders.
- Risk fuels innovation: GTM teams lead AI adoption.
- Data is your moat: Structured models drive defensibility.
Ken, Rob, and James offer B2B SaaS leaders a high-level yet practical view of what’s next—and what it’ll take to win in an AI-native world. If you’re a CRO or CMO thinking about survival and scale in 2025, this episode is your blueprint.
Plus, don’t miss:
👉 Rob Curtis’s AI Venture Studio – StandUp Hiro, where he’s building AI-native tools at lightning speed
👉 Rob’s Substack – Future Work, where he shares front-line insights on building in the agentic age
👉 This Crunchbase article on why VCs are betting on Human x AI teams over foundational models
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And the best part?
💡 It’s completely free.
No commitments, no pressure—just actionable advice to help you book more demos.
Your next demo is just a click away—claim your free review now.
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The podcast is about Marketing, Management, Cmo, Saas, Software, Podcasts, Business and B2B.
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