
Design trumps Risk Assessment - Our VCAT Hearing Success (as Expert Witnesses)
04/14/24 • 15 min
In this episode of Risk! Engineers Talk Governance, Richard Robinson and Gaye Francis discuss their recent success (as Expert Witnesses) at VCAT (Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal) and how design trumps risk assessment.
They discuss their case involving an application for a building permit in the outer safety zone of a major hazard facility. WorkCover advised against building two new dwellings due to increased population and societal risk. However, Richard and Gaye, as expert witnesses, argued that proper safety and design measures, such as laminated windows and steel roofs, could mitigate the risks.
The VCAT decision supports R2A’s position, and emphasises the importance of, working out the credible worst-case scenarios and then designing for it.
You can listen further about this VCAT hearing in Season 2 episodes 1 & 2 of our podcast.
If you’d like to learn more about Richard & Gaye, visit www.r2a.com.au.
Please submit any feedback or topic ideas to [email protected].
In this episode of Risk! Engineers Talk Governance, Richard Robinson and Gaye Francis discuss their recent success (as Expert Witnesses) at VCAT (Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal) and how design trumps risk assessment.
They discuss their case involving an application for a building permit in the outer safety zone of a major hazard facility. WorkCover advised against building two new dwellings due to increased population and societal risk. However, Richard and Gaye, as expert witnesses, argued that proper safety and design measures, such as laminated windows and steel roofs, could mitigate the risks.
The VCAT decision supports R2A’s position, and emphasises the importance of, working out the credible worst-case scenarios and then designing for it.
You can listen further about this VCAT hearing in Season 2 episodes 1 & 2 of our podcast.
If you’d like to learn more about Richard & Gaye, visit www.r2a.com.au.
Please submit any feedback or topic ideas to [email protected].
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In this episode of the podcast "Risk! Engineers Talk Governance," due diligence engineers Richard Robinson and Gaye Francis discuss the topic of design analysis versus risk analysis. They explore the difference between ALARP (as low as reasonably practicable) and SFAIRP (so far as reasonably practicable) and how the interpretation of these concepts has caused confusion and problems in various industries.
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The episode concludes with a reminder that there is no one-size-fits-all approach to risk analysis and that different tools and techniques can provide different insights into due diligence issues.
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In this episode of Risk! Engineers Talk Governance, due diligence engineers Richard Robinson and Gaye Francis discuss R2A's preferred approach to due diligence.
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Richard and Gaye also discuss:
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Please note the matrix mentions is available in all R2A publications. You can find these at https://www.r2a.com.au/store
If you'd like to learn more about Richard & Gaye's due diligence work at R2A, head to www.r2a.com.au or get in contact at [email protected].
Risk! Engineers Talk Governance - Design trumps Risk Assessment - Our VCAT Hearing Success (as Expert Witnesses)
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Megan (Producer) (00:01):
Welcome to Risk! Engineers Talk Governance. In this episode, due diligence engineers Richard Robinson and Gaye Francis discuss their recent success at VCAT (Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal) and how design trumps risk assessment. We hope you enjoy the
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