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RetailCraft - digital retail, ecommerce and brands - Retail Podcast - RetailCraft 42 - ”Details Matter” - retail and the arts - Ros Lawler and Zia Zareem-Slade

RetailCraft 42 - ”Details Matter” - retail and the arts - Ros Lawler and Zia Zareem-Slade

08/01/23 • 48 min

RetailCraft - digital retail, ecommerce and brands - Retail Podcast

Some 'summer listening' in this episode, where we take as our theme "retailers and the arts". There's a long and illustrious history of retail professionals swapping the stores for galleries, but with our current digital dimension there's still a consumer/customer/visitor/individual connection.

In the studio today we have Ros Lawler, COO of the National Portrait Gallery, fresh from a multi-year reworking of the space, the interpretation and the visitor facilities. Widely hailed as a triumph, Ros reflects on an extremely varied career that spans music, publishing, retail and the arts - all, however with a distinctly digital and transformational flavour.

Zia's retail career has been customer-focused and digital since her time in retail, consulting, then Selfridges and Fortnum & Mason. Moving to the high end of the arts market at Hauser and Wirth, as well as engaging with an inspiring and stimulating arts group in Peckham, London (Bold Tendencies) we hear of the consistent threads throughout retail and the arts - the focus on the consumer's experience and the integrity of the product.

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Run time: 40 minutes

INFORMATION:

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National Portrait Gallery: https://www.npg.org.uk/

Bold Tendencies: https://boldtendencies.com/

Ros' previous visit to our studio while at Crabtree & Evelyn: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/retailcraft-08-hands-made-conversation-with-made-com/id1418542382?i=1000431732461

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Ros Lawler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roslawler/

Zia Zareem-Slade: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ziazareemslade/

Georgia Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiajones1/

Ian Jindal: www.linkedin.com/in/ianjindal/ and www.twitter.com/ianjindal

[ 📷 ] (c) Ian Jindal / www.instagram.com/ianjindal

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Some 'summer listening' in this episode, where we take as our theme "retailers and the arts". There's a long and illustrious history of retail professionals swapping the stores for galleries, but with our current digital dimension there's still a consumer/customer/visitor/individual connection.

In the studio today we have Ros Lawler, COO of the National Portrait Gallery, fresh from a multi-year reworking of the space, the interpretation and the visitor facilities. Widely hailed as a triumph, Ros reflects on an extremely varied career that spans music, publishing, retail and the arts - all, however with a distinctly digital and transformational flavour.

Zia's retail career has been customer-focused and digital since her time in retail, consulting, then Selfridges and Fortnum & Mason. Moving to the high end of the arts market at Hauser and Wirth, as well as engaging with an inspiring and stimulating arts group in Peckham, London (Bold Tendencies) we hear of the consistent threads throughout retail and the arts - the focus on the consumer's experience and the integrity of the product.

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Run time: 40 minutes

INFORMATION:

[ 🖥️ ]

National Portrait Gallery: https://www.npg.org.uk/

Bold Tendencies: https://boldtendencies.com/

Ros' previous visit to our studio while at Crabtree & Evelyn: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/retailcraft-08-hands-made-conversation-with-made-com/id1418542382?i=1000431732461

[ 👨‍👧 ]

Ros Lawler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roslawler/

Zia Zareem-Slade: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ziazareemslade/

Georgia Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiajones1/

Ian Jindal: www.linkedin.com/in/ianjindal/ and www.twitter.com/ianjindal

[ 📷 ] (c) Ian Jindal / www.instagram.com/ianjindal

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undefined - RetailCraft 41 - ”More of a Partner” - Molly Dobson of Currys Business

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Molly takes us through how to balance "service with a capital and small 's'" and how to attach that service element to products. We go through the weird and wonderful and perhaps dwell for a while on pink flamingoes, yet the central core is a commitment to the business customer.

This chat changed our views on Currys and B2B.

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Run time: 40 minutes

INFORMATION:

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Currys Business: https://business.currys.co.uk/ and https://www.linkedin.com/company/currysbusiness/

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Molly Dobson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mollydobson/

Georgia Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgiajones1/

Ian Jindal: www.linkedin.com/in/ianjindal/ and www.twitter.com/ianjindal

[ 📷 ] (c) Ian Jindal / www.instagram.com/ianjindal

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undefined - RetailCraft 43 - ”Marketing Machine” - In conversation with Tony Preedy, Managing Director at Fruugo.com, on the topic of globalised, localised commerce.

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