
Nicola Twilley of Gastropod Teaches Us About Refrigeration!
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07/29/24 • 29 min
Beer is best served cold but it wasn't that way for most of human history! Nicola Twilley joins Gary, Bobby, and Allison to talk about the history of refrigeration and how brewers changed the world (of refrigeration).
GRAB THE BOOK
Grab your copy of "Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves" here! -> https://respect-the-beer.captivate.fm/frostbite
NICOLA TWILLEY BIO
Nicole Twilley is the author of "Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves" and co-host of Gastropod, a podcast looking at food through the lens of history and science.
Nicky was raised in England and currently based out of Los Angeles, where she is making use of the abundant sunshine to pretend she has a green thumb. She also frequently contributes to The New Yorker.
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EPISODE TIMELINE
00:00 Introducing Nicola Twilley
00:45 The History of Cold and Refrigeration
03:25 Early Innovations in Creating Cold, Ice Harvesting
05:52 The Role of Thermodynamics in Refrigeration
10:30 The Natural Ice Industry and Its Challenges
13:14 Refrigeration's Impact on Brewing
17:12 The Evolution of Beer Storage and Transportation
29:23 Conclusion, Come Back for Part 2
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CREDITS
Hosts:
Music by Sarah Lynn Huss
Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow
Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co
Beer is best served cold but it wasn't that way for most of human history! Nicola Twilley joins Gary, Bobby, and Allison to talk about the history of refrigeration and how brewers changed the world (of refrigeration).
GRAB THE BOOK
Grab your copy of "Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves" here! -> https://respect-the-beer.captivate.fm/frostbite
NICOLA TWILLEY BIO
Nicole Twilley is the author of "Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves" and co-host of Gastropod, a podcast looking at food through the lens of history and science.
Nicky was raised in England and currently based out of Los Angeles, where she is making use of the abundant sunshine to pretend she has a green thumb. She also frequently contributes to The New Yorker.
PATREON
Support the show! Get episodes 1 week early and bonus merch: patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast
FACEBOOK GROUP
Got a question about beer or just want to get social? Join the RtB Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer
Got a question? Email us at [email protected]
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EPISODE TIMELINE
00:00 Introducing Nicola Twilley
00:45 The History of Cold and Refrigeration
03:25 Early Innovations in Creating Cold, Ice Harvesting
05:52 The Role of Thermodynamics in Refrigeration
10:30 The Natural Ice Industry and Its Challenges
13:14 Refrigeration's Impact on Brewing
17:12 The Evolution of Beer Storage and Transportation
29:23 Conclusion, Come Back for Part 2
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CREDITS
Hosts:
Music by Sarah Lynn Huss
Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow
Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co
Previous Episode

What NOT to Do When Opening a Brewery
Learn from our mistakes! Gary Ardnt grills three brewery owners on their mistakes when opening a brewery. Bobby and Allison Fleshman of McFleshmans, Steve Lonsway of Stone Arch Brew Pub, and Oliver Behm of Hop Yard Ale Works reminisce on hard lessons they've learned while opening breweries and why they keep doing it, despite the challenges.
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GUEST BIOS
// Steve Lonsway //
Stonearch Brew Pub, Owner, Founder, CEO
https://www.stonearchbrewpub.com/
Steve's brewing journey began in college in 1991 after discovering his passion for home brewing. Partnering with his father and brother, they established Homebrew Market in 1993 then Steve further honed his skills at the Siebel Institute of Brewing Technology in 1996. As Corporate Brew Master of a local brewery, he oversaw multiple locations before starting Stone Arch with his father in 2004. Steve enjoys traveling with his wife, two daughters and rescue dog, supporting the Chicago Bears, and finding solace in his yard and parlor.
// Oliver Behm //
Hop Yard Ale Works, Owner, Founder, Brewer
Oliver & Amy Behm were born and raised in the Fox Valley. Their passion for food & love for beer took them on many adventures across the county. What they created for you is a collaboration of the best parts of their memories. Their wish is you enjoy the atmosphere, community and brewery experience as much as they did to risk it all, and follow their dreams!
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TIMELINE
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:22 Challenges of Starting a Brewery
01:45 Learning from Mistakes
03:51 Financial Struggles and Planning
10:29 The Importance of Banking Relationships
15:48 Cost of Starting a Brewery
18:06 Personal Stories and Experiences
19:32 Why We Keep Brewing
21:11 Conclusion and Farewell
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CREDITS
Hosts:
Music by Sarah Lynn Huss
Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow
Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co
Next Episode

Gastropod's Nicola Twilley Tells How Polly Pennington Changed Refrigeration
Have you ever heard of Polly Pennington? The badass pHD chemist who changed refrigeration? Nicola Twilley joins Gary, Bobby, and Allison again to talk about early brewing trends in America and M.E. Pennington's story.
GRAB THE BOOK
Grab your copy of "Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves" here! -> https://respect-the-beer.captivate.fm/frostbite
NICOLA TWILLEY BIO
Nicola Twilley is the author of "Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed Our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves" and co-host of Gastropod, a podcast looking at food through the lens of history and science.
Nicky was raised in England and currently based out of Los Angeles, where she is making use of the abundant sunshine to pretend she has a green thumb. She also frequently contributes to The New Yorker.
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PATREON
Support the show! Get episodes 1 week early and bonus merch: patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast
FACEBOOK GROUP
Got a question about beer or just want to get social? Join the RtB Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer
Got a question? Email us at [email protected]
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TIMELINE
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:25 The Importance of Lager in Beer Culture
03:34 Steam Beer and Refrigeration Challenges
07:45 The Evolution of Refrigeration in Brewing
11:22 Polly Pennington: The Unsung Hero of Refrigeration
18:16 What else is in the book?
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CREDITS
Hosts:
Music by Sarah Lynn Huss
Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow
Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co
Respecting the Beer - Nicola Twilley of Gastropod Teaches Us About Refrigeration!
Transcript
Hello everyone. And welcome to another episode of the Respecting the Beer podcast. My name is Gary Arndt and with me as usual is Bobby Fleshman and Allison McCoy. And we have a very special guest today. Now, every time you've probably gone to have a beer, it's often called a cold one and cold refrigerated beer is kind of the norm, but it wasn't always the case. There was a time when beer was almost always room temperature. Our guest today is Nic
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