
Ep. 7: Betty (Deadfellaz)
01/12/22 • 42 min
In Episode 7 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) chat with Betty (@betty_nft), co-founder and “Horde Mother” of Deadfellaz NFT collection. Deadfellaz is an NFT project consisting of 10,000 “undead NFTs on the Ethereum blockchain.” In this episode, Betty shares how she assessed the risk of launching an NFT project, how we can continue to break down barriers in web3, and why building an anonymous team is the future.
- Links and References Mentioned in This Episode -
- Boiz (@BOIZ_COLLECTION)
- Boss Beauties (@BossBeautiesNFT)
- CryptoStacys (@cryptostacys)
- clevergirls (@CleverGirlsNFT)
- raptorcity (@raptorcitynft)
- Goosebumps
- Galactic Agency (@GSA_nft)
- Boring Bananas (@BoringBananasCo)
- Crypto Covens (@crypto_coven)
- Cool Cats (@coolcatsnft)
- Timestamps -
1:35: Betty’s superhero origin story
8:13: Why is Betty “anonymous”?
12:02: How can we continue to take down barriers for marginalized communities in web3?
14:26: Betty’s Favorite women based artists/projects
18:00: Why NFTs are the way that the average person can be an early-stage investor
24:10: How does Betty manage her time?
27:23: Betty’s advice for future NFT projects
34:44: What is it like to work with an anonymous team?
39:21: What’s your desert island NFT?
- Mentions -
- Psych (@psych_nft)
- Lirona (@iamlirona)
- Priyanka (@priyankap_patel)
- Amy Woodward (@amy__woodward)
- fatbaby (@NftFat)
- India (@indiaweston)
- Leon Lee (@leoneeart)
- Highlights -
*How Betty got into NFT’s*
- When Betty first heard about NFTs, she got excited but was scared to engage
- Like many people, Betty spent time absorbing and learning as much as she could about the space.
- Her “professional” work was in the corporate creative productive industry so she understood the art side of NFTs right away.
- Betty’s husband, Psych, was the one who jumped right into NFTs and after seeing all of the projects the Psych was working on, Betty was hooked.
“I was like, I mean, we've worked in creative production together on a corporate level for really amazing brands for years, so the production side of it is something that we do anyway. And having been involved in the communities and things I was like, let's just do our own (NFT).”
“The idea for Deadfellaz just came really organically. We love horror, and we had been discussing like the fascination with zombies across pop culture and how it brings so many people together and I think that people love spooky stuff.”
*Why Deadfellaz had to succeed*
- Betty and Pysch’s backs were against the wall
“And it was like, you know, we either throw ourselves into this and it works or it doesn't work and so though that was like the fire, obviously, we have three children, it had to work. And the more we just sat down, it was like, it is going to be amazing.”
- NFTs give anyone a chance to make a name for themselves, no matter what situation they find themselves in.
- Even though the “real world” was slowly falling apart around Betty and her family between the Australia fires and COVID, they found their community online and have built an amazing project around it.
*Anonymity and Pseudonyms may be the future*
- Betty considers herself semi doxxed. She has always been called Betty by all of her friends, but it is technically not her legal name.
- She chose to be anonymous because she wanted to separate her corporate persona from her online one as some corporate clients can be confused between t...
In Episode 7 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) chat with Betty (@betty_nft), co-founder and “Horde Mother” of Deadfellaz NFT collection. Deadfellaz is an NFT project consisting of 10,000 “undead NFTs on the Ethereum blockchain.” In this episode, Betty shares how she assessed the risk of launching an NFT project, how we can continue to break down barriers in web3, and why building an anonymous team is the future.
- Links and References Mentioned in This Episode -
- Boiz (@BOIZ_COLLECTION)
- Boss Beauties (@BossBeautiesNFT)
- CryptoStacys (@cryptostacys)
- clevergirls (@CleverGirlsNFT)
- raptorcity (@raptorcitynft)
- Goosebumps
- Galactic Agency (@GSA_nft)
- Boring Bananas (@BoringBananasCo)
- Crypto Covens (@crypto_coven)
- Cool Cats (@coolcatsnft)
- Timestamps -
1:35: Betty’s superhero origin story
8:13: Why is Betty “anonymous”?
12:02: How can we continue to take down barriers for marginalized communities in web3?
14:26: Betty’s Favorite women based artists/projects
18:00: Why NFTs are the way that the average person can be an early-stage investor
24:10: How does Betty manage her time?
27:23: Betty’s advice for future NFT projects
34:44: What is it like to work with an anonymous team?
39:21: What’s your desert island NFT?
- Mentions -
- Psych (@psych_nft)
- Lirona (@iamlirona)
- Priyanka (@priyankap_patel)
- Amy Woodward (@amy__woodward)
- fatbaby (@NftFat)
- India (@indiaweston)
- Leon Lee (@leoneeart)
- Highlights -
*How Betty got into NFT’s*
- When Betty first heard about NFTs, she got excited but was scared to engage
- Like many people, Betty spent time absorbing and learning as much as she could about the space.
- Her “professional” work was in the corporate creative productive industry so she understood the art side of NFTs right away.
- Betty’s husband, Psych, was the one who jumped right into NFTs and after seeing all of the projects the Psych was working on, Betty was hooked.
“I was like, I mean, we've worked in creative production together on a corporate level for really amazing brands for years, so the production side of it is something that we do anyway. And having been involved in the communities and things I was like, let's just do our own (NFT).”
“The idea for Deadfellaz just came really organically. We love horror, and we had been discussing like the fascination with zombies across pop culture and how it brings so many people together and I think that people love spooky stuff.”
*Why Deadfellaz had to succeed*
- Betty and Pysch’s backs were against the wall
“And it was like, you know, we either throw ourselves into this and it works or it doesn't work and so though that was like the fire, obviously, we have three children, it had to work. And the more we just sat down, it was like, it is going to be amazing.”
- NFTs give anyone a chance to make a name for themselves, no matter what situation they find themselves in.
- Even though the “real world” was slowly falling apart around Betty and her family between the Australia fires and COVID, they found their community online and have built an amazing project around it.
*Anonymity and Pseudonyms may be the future*
- Betty considers herself semi doxxed. She has always been called Betty by all of her friends, but it is technically not her legal name.
- She chose to be anonymous because she wanted to separate her corporate persona from her online one as some corporate clients can be confused between t...
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Ep. 6: Bobby Hundreds
In Episode 6 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis Ohanian (@alexisohanian) chat with with Bobby Hundreds (@bobbyhundreds), founder of streetwear brand The Hundreds. Bobby is also the creator of the Adam Bomb Squad, an NFT project consisting of 25,000 pieces each related to the history of the Hundreds company. In this episode you’ll hear about the similarities and differences of building a streetwear company versus an NFT project. You’ll also learn about why community and durability are so important to building a brand, and whether Bobby considers The Hundreds to be a successful brand after 18 years in existence.
- Links and References Mentioned in This Episode -
- About the Hundreds
- What NFTs Can Learn From Streetwear
- The Hundreds Blog
- This is Not a T-Shirt by Bobby Hundreds
- Beeple Sale
- The Robots
- Timestamps -
2:00: Who is Bobby Hundreds?
04:50: How did Bobby move a web2 company into the web3 space?
09:09: What is most important for the Hundreds?
12:40: Community and its importance to brand building.
17:00: How did Bobby first get into NFTs and what helped him understand them?
22:00: How does building the Hundreds compare to Adam Bomb Squad?
26:05: Why projects become cash grabs.
32:34: How will The Hundreds maintain a brand quality in a decentralized world?
39:50: Desert Island NFT
- Mentions -
- Trevor McFedries (@whatdotcd)
- Dee Goens (@dg_goens)
- Highlights -
*Web2 and Community*
“I didn’t want to be in the stage, I wanted to be on the floor, in the mosh pit with everyone else, and the microphone gets passed around.”
- Bobby didn’t have the tech knowledge at that point on how everyone could participate and rise up together. So he was doing it from within their brand and other brands trying to establish their community.
“If there is any web2 company that I feel is sympathetic to what is happening in web3 and decentralized, but really embodies that spirit. I think it’s us”
- Bobby literally wrote a book on building brands around community.
- What really makes The Hundreds function is the community. Their entire company is based on community.
“In telling someone else a story we are telling a little bit of ours”
- It was never about The Hundreds being the winner. It was about telling the story, which is why they invested so heavily in collaborations.
- Their mindset was that they were all part of this ecosystem together.
“As the tide rises, we lift all the boats together.”
- They were doing it in the industry and now they are doing it through the community.
- A lot of established brands are looking at web3 and are scared because they have a lot to lose but for Bobby it’s inspiring.
“To think that every single day I might lose this company entirely to the community is electrifying”
- Bobby wants to get to a point where he can completely lose himself to the community and everything is entirely decentralized.
“All signs point in that direction. They’ve tried so hard to make it the other way for the last 10-15 years and it caused a lot of distressed and made me unhappy.”
- Bobby has lived with this guilt because he has been convincing young people that they aren’t enough unless they have a product.
- A simple consumer to business brand never sat right with Bobby even when he was a kid. He felt like he was a walking billboard for someones company.
*Community and Ownership*
“We’ve always endowed upon the community this sense of ownership, they’ve always felt like they own this brand.”
- People buy brands for community, identity, and because they have a sense of ownership.
“When young people are getting our logo tattooed on them, it’s not that they are a fan of me, th...
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Ep. 8: Farokh on building communities from web2 to web3
In Episode 8 of Probably Nothing TZ (@TZhongg) and Alexis (@alexisohanian) chat with Farokh (@farokh), Founder of Rug Radio (@RugRadio). Rug Radio is aiming to become the first ever decentralized media company. In this episode, Farokh shares his journey building communities online, why Rug Radio is important to him, and why memes are so important in web3.
Timestamps -
1:08: How did Farokh learn about NFTs?
5:11: Why does Farokh spends hours on web3?
7:48: When did a Community Manager role becomes an actual job?
9:30: Why Farokh left law school for community management
12:40: How has community changed from platform to platform?
14:56: The tactics that Farokh uses to build community
20:08: How does web3 respond to the grifters and scammers?
23:14: What does Farokh want to be known for?
27:18: The rise of memes
29:22: What does it mean to be “rugged”?
32:34: What is Rug Radio?
39.55: What would it take for Farokh to go back to clubhouse?
47:38: What NFT would Farokh bring onto his island
-Mentions -
- Gary Vee (@garyvee)
- Elon Musk “memes run the universe tweet”
- Jack Dorsey (@jack)
- Paul (@pdavidson)
- Logan Paul (@LoganPaul)
- Fvckrender (@fvckrender)
- Victor Mosquera (@victormosquerar)
- Fewocious (@fewocious)
- ThankYouX (@ThankYouX)
- JN Silva (@JNSilva_)
- Buster (@BusterScher)
- Greg Mike (@GREGMIKE)
- Mel (@belikewater893)
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