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Pop Fiction Women - 'Dead To Me' Season 2 & Liz Feldman, on Netflix with Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini

'Dead To Me' Season 2 & Liz Feldman, on Netflix with Christina Applegate and Linda Cardellini

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09/20/20 • 100 min

Pop Fiction Women
Complicated Female Friendship, Murder and Mommy Issues *** What took us so long to cover Season Two of one of our favorite shows? Turns out, the timing was perfect for us! (01:36) *** Complicated Woman Rating. Jen Harding and Judy Hale, two of our most complicated female leads, show us even more dimensions this season. We didn’t think it was possible, but Jen gets softer and Judy shows a darker side. They both grow and evolve in such surprising ways! (05:55) *** Scenes. In Episode 2 Jen realizes that Henry’s bird is a mom, which gets us talking about all the moms and mothering this season (19:32); Jen goes all Walter White and gives us a Breaking Bad moment (22:40); scenes with Jen’s body and how much of her pain and love is tied up with her physical body really get to us (24:09); the scene where Judy and Jen’s relationship comes to a head is a total show-stopper and makes the season (28:56); these scenes get us discussing toxic friendships (35:05). *** The Ending. All the twists and turns this season culminate in a final surprising finale that has us talking about what it really means to be a criminal and guessing what will come in Season Three. There is SO much to unpack in this last episode. (38:59) *** Crystal Ball. Our predictions are sprinkled all over the place, but we tick off a few of our ideas here. (52:00) *** That Cliffhanger. Shocking or inevitable? We say both. (55:05) *** What’s Your Damage, Heather? Mommy issues have become a real theme on this podcast lately, and in this season of Dead to Me that damage is on full display for Jen and Judy. (63:48) *** What She Said -- Liz Feldman. Carinn discusses our tweets with Liz Feldman herself and Kate cites a quote about the intimacy of female friendship, which reminds them of their own novel! Carinn hopes they don’t “Thelma and Louise” the end of this series! (68:00) *** Who Won the Show? For Carinn the answer is dancing and for Kate it’s astrology. Confused? Listen and hear why. (79:14) *** Takeaways. Kate lays on the couch, citing another Liz Feldman quote, and shares how she hopes to keep evolving and facing her issues. Carinn reluctantly hops on the couch next to Kate, and roots around for that wound she feels when she watches Judy. (86:32) Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated! We’ve launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. For a one time contribution to support this episode, use venmo @carinn-jade. Thank you for your support and enjoy the show!! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Complicated Female Friendship, Murder and Mommy Issues *** What took us so long to cover Season Two of one of our favorite shows? Turns out, the timing was perfect for us! (01:36) *** Complicated Woman Rating. Jen Harding and Judy Hale, two of our most complicated female leads, show us even more dimensions this season. We didn’t think it was possible, but Jen gets softer and Judy shows a darker side. They both grow and evolve in such surprising ways! (05:55) *** Scenes. In Episode 2 Jen realizes that Henry’s bird is a mom, which gets us talking about all the moms and mothering this season (19:32); Jen goes all Walter White and gives us a Breaking Bad moment (22:40); scenes with Jen’s body and how much of her pain and love is tied up with her physical body really get to us (24:09); the scene where Judy and Jen’s relationship comes to a head is a total show-stopper and makes the season (28:56); these scenes get us discussing toxic friendships (35:05). *** The Ending. All the twists and turns this season culminate in a final surprising finale that has us talking about what it really means to be a criminal and guessing what will come in Season Three. There is SO much to unpack in this last episode. (38:59) *** Crystal Ball. Our predictions are sprinkled all over the place, but we tick off a few of our ideas here. (52:00) *** That Cliffhanger. Shocking or inevitable? We say both. (55:05) *** What’s Your Damage, Heather? Mommy issues have become a real theme on this podcast lately, and in this season of Dead to Me that damage is on full display for Jen and Judy. (63:48) *** What She Said -- Liz Feldman. Carinn discusses our tweets with Liz Feldman herself and Kate cites a quote about the intimacy of female friendship, which reminds them of their own novel! Carinn hopes they don’t “Thelma and Louise” the end of this series! (68:00) *** Who Won the Show? For Carinn the answer is dancing and for Kate it’s astrology. Confused? Listen and hear why. (79:14) *** Takeaways. Kate lays on the couch, citing another Liz Feldman quote, and shares how she hopes to keep evolving and facing her issues. Carinn reluctantly hops on the couch next to Kate, and roots around for that wound she feels when she watches Judy. (86:32) Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated! We’ve launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. For a one time contribution to support this episode, use venmo @carinn-jade. Thank you for your support and enjoy the show!! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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