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Pod and Man at Yale

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Pod and Man at Yale is the official podcast of the Buckley Institute, the only organization dedicated to promoting intellectual diversity and free speech at Yale. Pod and Man at Yale skips the pundits and highlights student voices on the issues facing campus and the country.

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Arianne de Gennaro ’25 and Owen Tilman ’27 join Pod and Man at Yale to talk about institutional neutrality and how Yale handles free speech. They then look at the Congressional report on Yale’s handling of Gaza protests:

  • Tilman: “I think it’s pretty extraordinary that the free speech conversation on Yale’s campus in the past year has become, is it genocidal to shout ‘from the river to the sea?’ And then say, it depends on the context... The double standard is insane.”
  • De Gennaro: “All of a sudden we care about free speech? What it seems like to me is that we’re protecting speech that we deem to be correct or valuable. Which is basically saying, I’m right so my side gets to speak.”
  • De Gennaro: “I don’t really understand how people can expect to break the law and then not have any consequences. Why? Because their cause is just? We’re not living in a superhero movie.”
  • Tilman: “What I saw in Beinecke Plaza was nothing short of the larva stage of a death cult.”

Yale Law School Professor Keith Whittington talks about institutional neutrality and why he’s optimistic about Yale’s new public comment guidelines:

  • Whittington: “We hear [different ideas] out and then we try to engage with them. And if we can’t do that, then I don’t know what we’re bothering doing on university campuses at all.”
  • Whittington: “What we have found for decades of research on this is that if you ask people do they care about free speech, do they value free speech, left, right, and center, young and old, they tend to say, yes they care.”
  • Whittington: “If you’re going to go out picking fights in political arenas, you should not be surprised if your opposition decides to fight back. And ultimately, universities are going to lose that fight.”
  • Whittington: “Among the battles we should not be picking is how do we make symbolic statements that accomplish no particular purposes except to anger people that we disagree with and make the people who agree with us feel better.”

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Pod and Man at Yale hosted its first ever presidential debate! Two teams of two Buckley Fellows each made the case for Kamala Harris and Donald Trump respectively to be the next president of the United States. Will Wang ’26 and Felix Leonhardt ’26 argued for supporting Vice President Kamala Harris. Manu Anpalagan ’26 and Owen Tilman ’27 took the trump side of the debate.

Check it out before you cast your vote!

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Aron Ravin ’24, Noah Riley ’24, and Trevor MacKay ’25 discuss the challenges that come with being conservative on Yale’s campus and how campus political bias can come out in surprising places:

  • Noah: “If being a social conservative is like being a Nazi, then being a Trump supporter is like being Hitler himself. It is the worst of the worst that you could be.”
  • Trevor: “Being prolife is definitely something that is very far outside the mainstream of Yale’s campus.”
  • Aron: “In my first class in the directed studies program, my professor and my classmates started comparing the violence in the Iliad to the death of George Floyd... During parents’ weekend, my parents came to town and it started with a land acknowledgment...”
  • Aron: “...the Buckley Institute [is] more associated with being welcoming to people that are liberal and, a lot of people on this campus, even left-leaning people, are very dissatisfied with the culture of speech here... The way that they’ve seen the conversations permeate on campus around these issues has really been dissatisfying to them, and it’s kind of led to a new respect for the Buckley Institute.”

For the episode’s interview, we sat down with inaugural Lux et Veritas Faculty Prize Winner Mordechai Levy-Eichel and discussed why he goes out of his way to stimulate open discussion in the class, and why so many faculty and administrators avoid debate at all costs:

  • “Our current culture in general, and our college campus culture as a reflection of our larger culture, is so tame and so worried about offending people or saying the wrong thing, that students, when they’re confronted with a serious back and forth... they actually really usually enjoy the intellectual exercise.”
  • “I think its healthier and better to have a more freeform and open discussion where you talk about what you’re really thinking because there’s no reason you can’t... When we’re worried about holding things back, we’re cheating ourselves.”

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In the newest episode, Trevor MacKay ’25 and Avi Feinsod LAW ’24 discuss the way pro-Israel speech is treated on campus and how pro-Palestinian voices are constantly complaining that their free speech is being suppressed, then putting in every effort to shut down other speech:

  • MacKay: “If you truly do believe in the value of a liberal arts education and the value of education at all, you should want to be uncomfortable with the things that you learn.”
  • Feinsod: “Right now, being anything pro-Israel is considered like a cardinal sin. And, if you’re doing that, it’s the same as doing all of these terrible things. Being pro-Israel is associated with being genocidal, being racist, supporting an apartheid state.”
  • MacKay: “That kind of hypocrisy is part of the reason why especially people on the right are so annoyed and angry at the institutions of the universities. Because they see instances like the Christakis incident or other instances throughout the last decade of people who don’t toe the party line and they are punished for it...”
  • Feinsod: “They can do events without being stopped. And still yet, they invoke, ‘people are stopping our speech,’ as they try to stop other people from speaking.”

Yale Sterling Professor David Bromwich discussed free speech on campus, a new faculty effort called Faculty for Yale that is hoping to restore it, Edmund Burke, and William Shakespeare:

  • Bromwich: “I think there’s been a tendency at universities ... to make sure that speech is of a kind that all students and all faculty feel comfortable with. That’s a mistake about the nature of free inquiry and the nature of speech, which isn’t all polite conversation, isn’t all about comfortable.”
  • Bromwich: “Faculty for Yale means to reassert the importance of free inquiry, the search for truth, and the transmission of knowledge as what’s essential to university life.”
  • Bromwich: “What was remarkable about the scene of higher education [in the 60s and 70s] including Yale University and UCLA – I took courses at both places – is that universities seemed the freest places with the most wide-ranging and controversial discussion that you could find in the United States. I don’t think anyone would argue that they are that now.”

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On the first episode of the second season of Pod and Man at Yale, Will Barbee ’26, Isaac Oberman ’26, and Marco Nino ’24 talk about the presidential election and what it will mean for campus civility and debate:

  • Will Barbee: “People are very willing to forget things that they don’t like about one person if they even think that there’s a slightly better chance that they’ll win.”
  • Isaac Oberman: “I think that there will be a lot of animosity towards anybody even thinking about voting for a conservative. I don’t see very civil discussion happening any time soon.”
  • Marco Nino: “People can only hate on you so much before they just realize, ‘this guy does not care.’”
  • Oberman: “There’s no actual care about policies or anything. It’s just, ‘you’re the other color, red or blue, you’re the other color, you’re weird.’ And that’s what our political scene has devolved to.”

2024 Lux et Veritas Faculty Prize winner and Yale Lecturer in Ethics, Politics, and Economics Dr. Gregory Collins discussed what it takes to support real discussion in the classroom, analyzed conservative themes in Home Alone, and shared his predictions about the 2024 presidential election:

  • Dr. Gregory Collins: “First and foremost, at a university, our responsibility as instructors and as students is to retain, discover, and transmit knowledge in pursuit of the true and beautiful.”
  • Collins: “Practically speaking, today, I think we’ve lost the ability to disagree in a firm but civil manner. And that is one quality I do try to promote in the classroom.”
  • Collins: “One guideline I ask of my students is at some point in the paper, pause... and consider what are the strongest counterarguments to my thesis.”
  • Collins: “You can still retain your argument but nevertheless acknowledge that yes, this point of view does highlight weaknesses of my logic.”

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In the newest episode of Pod and Man at Yale, Isaac Oberman ’26 and freshman Jacob Tyler ’27 talk about the cultural disconnect between not only their home towns in the Midwest and the Yale culture dominated by the coasts, but also between Yale and the rest of the country.

  • Tyler: “They don’t believe me when I say that inflation is bad right now and it’s kind of hilarious but it’s also sad because these are the future leaders of America...it’s a little worrying, the disconnect.”
  • Oberman: “It’s always vocationally focused, and everything’s so fast-paced, and everybody talks about their job instead of what they want and what they actually value in life.”
  • Tyler: “It’s really hard to convince people otherwise, that maybe [white privilege] isn’t a thing, because every single white person they know here is extremely privileged.”
  • Oberman: “I do think the urban necessity to have something to do, always, is a bit harmful, actually.”

For the episode’s expert interview, author Rob Henderson ’18 talked about his childhood in foster care, what luxury beliefs are, and how luxury beliefs are impacting campus and country:

  • Henderson: “Most people don’t even know that the vast majority of American adults don’t have bachelor’s degrees.”
  • Henderson: “The more educated and affluent you are... the more likely you are to say we should defund the police; the more likely you are to say we should decriminalize hard drugs; the more likely you are to agree that having two married parents is unimportant for kids. And, ultimately, they have detrimental consequences for the rest of society.”
  • Henderson: “If you are a graduate of an elite university, and if you belong to this very privileged segment of society, you have a duty to give your beliefs and policy proposals and ideas a very thorough analysis before you start promoting them.”
  • Henderson: “For a lot of, I’ll just say the word, elites, their only exposure to poverty is kind of the most... apparent and visible and kind of provocative parts of poverty... They don’t necessarily see people who clock into their job, make a minimum wage living, and then go home and try to pay their bills and take care of their kids.”

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The Buckley Institute is pleased to release the newest of episode of Pod and Man at Yale. In the most recent episode, Arav Dalwani ’26 and Sabrina Guo ’27 debate legacy admissions, whether it should exist and whether they would want their own kids to benefit:

  • Dalwani ’26: “If I’m someone that’s spent 4 years studying at Yale, I’d also like to have some sense of reciprocity where the college or the school is treating me like I’m a part of the community.”
  • Guo ’27: “I think most of my friends would say, ‘yes, let’s get rid of legacy admissions... it’s the right thing to do, morally.’”
  • Dalwani ’26: “The way an admissions officer gives preference to someone on the basis of race is very different from giving someone preference based on whether their parents went to a school.”
  • Guo ’27: “If these two kids are at par, I just wouldn’t want legacy to be the drive over factor of yes, let’s accept that applicant.”
  • Dalwani ’26: “If it’s a legacy versus just some other standard, nonlegacy ... if both applicants have the same score... then I think legacy can be sort of the push factor as to whether that student should be admitted.”

Yale Dean of Undergraduate Admissions and Financial Aid Jeremiah Quinlan ’03 joined the podcast to present Yale’s defense of legacy admissions and explain Yale’s reinstated test requirement for applicants:

  • Quinlan ’03: “There is a lot of talk about legacy admissions being an impediment to diversifying student bodies but our experience at Yale is not that.”
  • Quinlan ’03: “And once we get into the nineties and the two-thousands, which of course was when I was at Yale, we’re talking about a radically diversifying student body. And now would be the time that we would no longer be able to consider legacy? Once we have a much more diverse alumni body?”
  • Quinlan ’03: “Students without test scores were putting themselves at a disadvantage in our process, particularly students from diverse backgrounds, high schools that we had never seen applications from.”

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The newest episode of Pod and Man at Yale, the Buckley Institute’s official podcast, is now available. Ariane de Gennaro ’25 and Will Wang ’26 join the podcast to share their thoughts on the presidential search, the impact of the resignation of Harvard President Claudine Gay, and how Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion is defining the search for Yale’s next leader:

  • Ariane de Gennaro: “I think it’s in some ways the silver lining [of Gay’s resignation] is that we’ve seen what happens when you don’t consider merit as the fundamentally most important quality for people in these positions.”
  • Will Wang: “I think everyone on principle believes in free speech. In practice, when there’s a speech that offends you terribly, then, that’s when you toe that line. But no one comes out and says, ‘I don’t believe in free speech.’”
  • De Gennaro: “I think it would actually be good to lay down some values that we’re going to align with.”
  • Wang: “Yale has been in a bunch of free speech scandals and they may perceive it as, ‘if we defend free speech writ large, we may be giving some credence to some of these scandals and us not doing anything about it.’”
  • De Gennaro: “Free speech, for some reason, is more of a trigger issue, especially in the universities, I think, that people associate with the right, in a way that the mainstream, leftist side of the university is really uncomfortable with.”

Princeton University’s McCormick Professor of Jurisprudence and Director of the James Madison Program in American Ideals and Institutions Robert George sat down for an interview about the illiberal free speech culture on campus, his forty-year career in the middle of it, and his estimation of the current campus climate:

  • Prof. Robert George: “The fundamental problem has been, throughout my entire career, the dearth of dissenting voices from the standard liberal secular orthodoxy on college campuses.”
  • George: “The lack of viewpoint diversity easily creates a milieu in which dissent is not only unusual, but is interpreted as unacceptable; in fact, interpreted, even experienced, as a kind of assault on the fundamental values of ‘our community.’”
  • George: “It’s a matter of leadership. I’ll tell you another important ingredient: courage... It’s the courage of people who are willing to defy the groupthink and the conformism.”
  • George: “You see that public pressure can make a difference. That should be an encouragement.”

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This episode features a special panel of Lux et Veritas Leadership Fellows discussing why go to college in the first place and why colleges and universities, Yale included, should focus more on living a good life than just being busy. Plus, what it’s like to be conservative at the Yale Women’s Center:
Claire Barragan-Bates '25: “I took a class this last semester... It was a class about feminism where we talked about anything but women.”
Emma Ventresca '26: “There are some really wonderful classes at Yale with professors who care more about the academic content, rather than maybe current events or certain ideologies... Seeking out these pockets through friends that you trust and through professors and their mentorship is a really great opportunity that Yale has presented.”
Sabrina Guo '27: “There’s not much promotion of the understanding that a good life is unique to each individual student.”
Isaac Oberman '26: “There’s definitely an immortalization of the ‘Grindset,’ and the idea that, if I’m not doing something, I’m not doing anything.”
Claire Barragan-Bates '25: “I used to direct the Yale Women’s Center, which is one of the wokest places on campus. I definitely feel like I got cancelled quite a few times for specific things that I believed while working there.”
American Enterprise Institute Senior Fellow Ben Storey, an expert on living the good life, walks through what it means to live a good life and how to can find your own path:
Dr. Ben Storey: “It’s not emphasized enough... There are very few people over the course of human history that have the kind of possibilities and options that a modern American college student has.”
Storey: “For people who want to begin that conversation, the author I always turn to first is Plato. And I turn to Plato because ... he asks these questions with a kind of immediacy it’s hard to encounter in later authors.”
Storey: “One of the things, I think, we saw in the aftermath of October 7th is that a simplistic oppressor/oppressed dichotomy, through means of which people interpret almost every phenomenon in the political world, has become adopted by a very large number of people on campus. And, in my view, it leads them to profoundly misjudge what’s happening in Israel at present and many other phenomena about modern political contests.

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In this episode, Yale faculty members Edward Kaplan, Evan Morris, and Roya Hakakian discuss how Israel is treated on campus, the hypocrisy of academic boycotts of Israel, and their recent trip to the country.

  • Roya Hakakian: “That doesn’t just reveal the hypocrisy of boycotts but also the impossibility of separating human beings and human inventions from one another.”
  • Hakakian: “A lot of Arab Israelis, almost everyone that I interviewed with, [said] we don’t feel like second[class] citizens.”
  • Dr. Ed Kaplan: “This is not a series of seemingly spontaneous independent realizations at campuses across the country. This was extremely organized. Somebody built a big button and pushed it on October 7th.”
  • Dr. Evan Morris: “This is a war on reason—it’s a war on reason and civility.”

American Enterprise Institute’s Samuel Abrams talks about antisemitism on campus and the recent student encampments:

  • Dr. Abrams: “The schools absolutely have a right to say ‘you can' t camp here, right here right now...it's creating a real threat, it's a disruption...’ and they're choosing not to do it.”
  • Abrams: “It’s very clear that it was only the question of when was [DEI] going to turn on the Jewish community and on issues of Israel.”
  • Abrams: “I marvel and just stay up at night in bed, almost daily now, wondering what a strange world I live in where I have to defend Israel's right to self-determination and to defend itself against those horrific attacks because logic and reason [have] fallen apart.”

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How many episodes does Pod and Man at Yale have?

Pod and Man at Yale currently has 21 episodes available.

What topics does Pod and Man at Yale cover?

The podcast is about News, Free Speech, Podcasts, Education and Politics.

What is the most popular episode on Pod and Man at Yale?

The episode title 'DEI and the Yale Presidential Search; Robert George on 40 Years of Campus Illiberalism' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Pod and Man at Yale?

The average episode length on Pod and Man at Yale is 37 minutes.

How often are episodes of Pod and Man at Yale released?

Episodes of Pod and Man at Yale are typically released every 17 days, 2 hours.

When was the first episode of Pod and Man at Yale?

The first episode of Pod and Man at Yale was released on Sep 8, 2023.

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