
Shaq Opens Up About His Divorce & His Only Regrets: Penny Hardaway & Kobe Bryant
04/19/22 • 88 min
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Shaquille O’Neal opens up about his divorce, relationship with Penny Hardaway and what really went on between him and Kobe Bryant in a rare look back into his life as he shares with the guys what keeps him up at night.
For the most part, Shaq says how he’s lived life his way but as he’s become older, he looks back with a couple of regrets, the main one being his divorce and the other never reaching out to Kobe after they finished playing together.
As Ryan leads the conversation about family and all of them making mistakes at one point or another over the years- the men discuss the point of coming to a realization that sometimes mistakes become decisions that can be difficult to come back from. The conversation takes a somber tone as Shaq shares how he is to blame for his marriage ending and the struggles he faced after not having his family with him everyday.
Channing lightens the mood, by talking shit with Shaq about his reputation of missing free throws, his eyes being close together and can’t resist asking about the sexual challenges Shaq faces by being such a large human and curious to how it all goes down.
Fred gets into the basketball conversation with Shaq and the guys take a trip down memory lane of how his career played out and what he would have done differently if given the chance.
Being transparent about his playing days with the Magic his move to LA and then to Miami, Shaq shares how he believes Penny Hardaway was Kobe Bryant before Kobe was Kobe. “If Penny didn’t get hurt, he would have been one of the top 3 players in the history of game” Shaq says.
Losing his sister unexpectedly and then dealing with the death of Kobe, Shaq regrets not picking up the phone and has no excuse but shares the lesson- we are never too busy to make a call.
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Shaquille O’Neal opens up about his divorce, relationship with Penny Hardaway and what really went on between him and Kobe Bryant in a rare look back into his life as he shares with the guys what keeps him up at night.
For the most part, Shaq says how he’s lived life his way but as he’s become older, he looks back with a couple of regrets, the main one being his divorce and the other never reaching out to Kobe after they finished playing together.
As Ryan leads the conversation about family and all of them making mistakes at one point or another over the years- the men discuss the point of coming to a realization that sometimes mistakes become decisions that can be difficult to come back from. The conversation takes a somber tone as Shaq shares how he is to blame for his marriage ending and the struggles he faced after not having his family with him everyday.
Channing lightens the mood, by talking shit with Shaq about his reputation of missing free throws, his eyes being close together and can’t resist asking about the sexual challenges Shaq faces by being such a large human and curious to how it all goes down.
Fred gets into the basketball conversation with Shaq and the guys take a trip down memory lane of how his career played out and what he would have done differently if given the chance.
Being transparent about his playing days with the Magic his move to LA and then to Miami, Shaq shares how he believes Penny Hardaway was Kobe Bryant before Kobe was Kobe. “If Penny didn’t get hurt, he would have been one of the top 3 players in the history of game” Shaq says.
Losing his sister unexpectedly and then dealing with the death of Kobe, Shaq regrets not picking up the phone and has no excuse but shares the lesson- we are never too busy to make a call.
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UFC Women’s bantamweight champion, Julianna Peña joins The Pivot and is ready to set the record straight with Ryan about who the champ really is after Peña pulled off the win against Amanda Nunes.
“I’m here to say ‘I told you so,” to Ryan for picking against me and saying I didn’t have a chance,” Julianna first says as she sits down. Channing and Fred ofcourse egg on the banter and tell Ryan they might not be able to help him if she tries to fight him.
Ryan admits he was wrong but that his UFC prediction was influenced by being a longtime fan of Amanda and he is sorry for shit talking her as an opponent.
Learning more about Julianna’s journey to the top of the sport, Fred gets into her background as well as some of the legal troubles that she faced while coming up the ranks. “I only fight to get paid, no more street fights,” she jokes with the guys.
Channing is amped up as he hears the fight in her and how much passion she has for being the best in the cage and her approach to being a professional athlete.
The conversation moves into motherhood and relationships and the challenges facing female athletes to balance both the personal and work side of the sport.
Preparing for the rematch in early summer, Julianna says how she still will approach the fight and training as if she is the challenger with a target on her back to be dethroned as the champion.
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Ric Flair: The Nature Boy Discusses Loss of Son & His Own Near Death Experience
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The Nature Boy joins the Pivot in an entertaining yet emotional conversation about life with Ryan, Channing and Fred. The conversation opens up with Flair explaining his inspiration for the larger than life persona he cultivated through his in-ring antics and lavish personality which became the standard of swagger for generations.
"It all really started when I saw Joe Namath at Alabama and heard he slept with a hundred girls his freshman year and I said, that's my kind of man," Flair laughs while telling the story as the guys continue to reminisce with him over some of the more notable stories of his career. Wrestling was a gateway to being an entertainer for The Nature Boy who is proud of the reputation he created while setting a standard for people all over the world who genuinely admired him for his boastful behavior and carefree lifestyle.
As the conversation continues, Flair opens up about some of the darker moments in his life: losing his son and his own near death experience.
With the anniversary of his son's death near, Ric talks about the loss and how he cried everyday for years after losing him to a drug overdose. "For five years, I drank from 10 in the morning until 2am...Everyday I'd wake up and it's still right in front of me what happened," Ric shares in an emotional moment describing how hard it was to find his son and how it doesn't get easier even though it's been years.
Offering comfort as fathers, the men relate to his post loss mentality and couldn't imagine being in that position. Flair goes on to share how he fortunate he feels to be alive and have made the global impact he did on so many lives sharing stories and conversations he's had with various celebrities and athletes over the years.
Turning back to a positive note, Flair shares that his infamous coined phrase "Wooo!" was derived from Jerry Lee Lewis' 1957 hit "Great Balls of Fire" while listening to the song on a road trip. Channing goes right for the gusto asking if the rumored number of sleeping with 10,000 women is accurate...The Nature Boy breaks down the numbers by days and explains how although he doesn't know the exact number, it could be close to that figure!
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