PHP Town Hall - Episode 34: /dev/hell Mashup

Episode 34: /dev/hell Mashup

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01/09/15 • 93 min

PHP Town Hall

This is a big one. We’ve had Chris “The Grumpy Programmer” Hartjes and Ed “The Grumpy Podcaster” Finkler on our show before, but this time they both join us for a mashup!

We talk about the perils of being opinionated people speaking in public. Chris basically just says fuck Reddit and all of its minions of evil, and Phil gives a bit of insight into why he gets stuck in so many arguments.

We move on to chatting about PHP, and how people feel about a strong new demand for more async features. Is it better to leave that to other tools, or should we try and fit some into the language itself, and the ecosystem around it?

The last chunk of this podcast ends with a discussion around CodeIgniter 3.0 supporting PHP 5.2 and up. Should it be higher? Is it feckless to release like this? Should this be a documentation change to warn users away or a hard change to make it not even work there?

Also, who has the best beard? Hint: it isn’t Phil.

This is a big one. We’ve had Chris “The Grumpy Programmer” Hartjes and Ed “The Grumpy Podcaster” Finkler on our show before, but this time they both join us for a mashup!

Also, who has the best beard? Hint: it isn’t Phil.

Previous Episode

Episode 33: CakePHP, Monga and RFCs

This episode we’re joined by two two top CakePHPers Jose Diaz-Gonzalez and Bryan Crowe.

Ben is AWOL, Phil is insanely jet-lagged and has no idea what he is talking about. Our awesome guests try their best to carry Phil through the show, where we discuss exciting new stuff happening with CakePHP, and what we think of a few current RFCs being discussed in PHP land.

We also talk a bit about Monga, a League package which Bryan has now assumed the role of project lead.

It took a while to get this one out, but the next recording will be December 28th and it’s going to be a Christmas mash-up with /dev/hell.

Now that Phil has stopped being homeless we’re going to get more regular, and drastically improve the quality of this podcast. Do not miss out!

Next Episode

Episode 36: PSR-7 and The World of Tomorrow

Two awesome guests join this week, from two different framework projects, both who have been very vocal about their interest in PSR-7: HTTP Message. These two chaps were Hari K T and Matthew Weier O’Phinney.

Now PSR chats can be a little boring when its about autoloading or tabs v bloody spaces, but this PSR could have some really big impact on the way you write PHP over the next few years.

We talk a bunch about Aura and Zend and their plans around middlewares, what motivated Matthew to get involved with taking over PSR-7, what middlewares mean for PHP in general and some of the concerns that have been fixed in recent iterations of the PSR like mutability, streams, etc.

There also a bit of chat about turtles, standing desks and broken ribs, while Phil slowly goes loopy on pain killers.

7PHP Interview with Josh Lockhart - “The Guy Behind ‘PHP The Right Way’ – Find Good Online Resources And Communities & Use Them To Your Advantage”
Experimenting on a different Framework - Hari writes about experimenting with bits of Symfony together via Composer packages
PSR-7 By Example - Matt wrote up some examples of PSR-7 in use
StackPHP - Composing HttpKernelInterface middlewares since 2013!
Stacker - Larry Garfield’s StackPHP-like implementation of PSR-7