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Winners Never Quit (ft. Jack Jarvis)
Perspectives from the Top
10/03/22 • 56 min
Winners Never Quit (ft. Jack Jarvis)
Jack Jarvis on how challenges become opportunities
OPENING QUOTE:
“If I hadn’t been unsuccessful on UKSF selection, I never would've been here, wouldn't have done what I did when I rode across the Atlantic, raised £70,000 for charity. So everything happens for a reason.”
—Jack Jarvis
GUEST BIO:
Jack Jarvis left school at just 16 to join the army as a soldier in the Royal Engineers, the military engineering part of the British Army, which enables mobility of action and denies the same to the enemy. Jack's determination and his belief in giving 100% by the age of 20 saw him successfully passing the extremely tough British military commando course and leading seven other soldiers in dynamic high risk environments. He then went on to become the first person to row solo across the Atlantic from mainland Europe to the mainland United States.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[16:08] - Competence and Leadership
Two traits for essential leaders
Jack reflects on how all the great leaders he’s respected over the years have done two things. They’ve committed themselves to being leaders by example, never asking someone to do something they wouldn’t do themselves. And they also are committed to growing their competency. If they don’t have an answer, they’ll go and get it. We should all strive to be this kind of dependable leader.
[21:26] - The Bulletproof Mindset
Failure isn’t something to be ashamed of
Jack recounts his greatest life failure, and how it became the impetus for his greatest success. It made him realize that he had what he calls a “bulletproof mindset,” the ability to simply never quit and never be ashamed of failing. He’s since channeled that mindset into everything he does today.
[29:31] - Work Your Way Up to Incredible
A journey of smaller challenges
Did Jack immediately wake up and decide to row for 111 days across a dangerous ocean? No. In Chris’ words, “You can't just go straight to the biggest challenge of your life, because what happens is you need to go on a journey of smaller challenges that build you up and build you up and build you up. You have to go through the failures, which then become your learning points.”
[32:51] - Showing Initiative with Your Ideas
Jack’s advice for attracting investors and supporters
Jack didn’t have a concrete product or a guaranteed investment return. What he had was ideas, and he accepted his need to be tenacious with those ideas and never stop going hard at every opportunity he could find. That’s how he got the support he needed from some of the world’s most influential organizations.
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Discover the secrets of success for you and your organization shared by the world’s leading thinkers, doers, and trailblazers. Join Chris Roebuck, Honorary Visiting Professor of transformational leadership, leader in military, business, and government, inspiring global keynote speaker, one of HR’s Most Influential Thinkers, bestselling author, and your host of Perspectives from the Top. The show reveals a treasure trove of insights from mega trends to practical strategies and actions to take your career up a gear. From government world shapers and business mold breakers to evidence driven academics and enthusiastic entrepreneurs, each episode shows you how you can immediately use these new ideas and actions to drive your success.
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ABOUT DETROIT PODCAST STUDIOS:
In Detroit, history was made when Barry Gordy opened Motown Records back in 1960. More than just discovering great talent, Gordy built a systematic app...

"How" Matters as Much as "What" (ft. Andy Byford)
Perspectives from the Top
12/13/21 • 43 min
"How" Matters as Much as "What" (ft. Andy Byford)
How one transportation leader makes people the key to punctual trains and better organizations
OPENING QUOTE:
“My view is you should stick to your principles. And it's certainly something I've always tried to do regardless of the prevailing narrative, political narrative. At the end of the day right is right and wrong is wrong. You've got to be flexible of course, in a senior leadership position. And you've got to understand politics and how to work with politicians, but equally, if something is blatantly immoral, illegal, or just wrong, you can't just ignore that.”
—Andy Byford
GUEST BIO:
Andy Byford is the Transport Commissioner of London, tasked with ensuring that everything from the underground and buses to riverboats and cycleways in one of the world’s busiest cities operates as they should. Across his career, he’s led the New South Wales state railways in Sydney, Australia, as well as mass transit for Toronto, Canada and then New York, his toughest challenge to date.
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CORE TOPICS + DETAILS
[6:50] – Be a Leader in the Little Things
One hallmark of great leadership
Andy shares a story of one boss who insisted that all employees never cross a road when a red pedestrian light was showing. He believed in role modeling safety for employees and the public at large, even in the little things, and that inspired his employees when it came to the big things, too.
[17:44] – Finding a Footing in Troubled Organizations
The beginnings of cultural change
Andy Byford has made a name for himself in helping turn around troubled transportation organizations. One of the ways he does it? By honing in on the psychology of management, assessing how individuals are likely to react to certain changes and anticipating those reactions as best as possible. This proactive approach has been a major asset in all of Andy’s work worldwide
[27:30] – Radical Transparency
Sometimes confrontation is good (and necessary
As a manager or leader, the last thing you want is for your colleagues and employees to stay quiet about problems they perceive. Andy advocates for doing away with coded messages and faux politeness, insisting instead that every say what’s on their minds so that it can get out in the open and be addressed properly.
[32:03] – Bring Everyone Aboard the Train
Share your vision with your entire organization
In his work, Andy makes a point to make a video update every two weeks for the entire organization, including appreciation, motivation, and updates on current issues facing the railway. Is all of this information directly pertinent to every single employee of the organization? Not necessarily. But it helps everyone buy in and feel like they’re part of a united mission, and may just alter their behavior in small ways that add up to big transformational changes.
[37:55] – The Power of Asking
Showing empathy isn’t easy, but it can be simple
When leaders show they care about their people, those people will give as much as +25% more effort in their work, which adds up over an entire organization. But that empathy has to be genuine and known. Ask your people how they’re doing, and genuinely listen to the answers. Seek opportunities to communicate more than what you expect from them. You’ll be amazed by the transformations that occur
RESOURCES
- [1:33] New York MTA
- [1:35]BBC Announcement of Andy’s Appointment in London
- [33:13]More on the Dunkirk Operation
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A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Stockholm (ft. Bob Lefkowitz)
Perspectives from the Top
10/17/22 • 60 min
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Stockholm (ft. Bob Lefkowitz)
Nobel Prize-winner Bob Lefkowitz on the power of failing
OPENING QUOTE:
“It was through serendipity and really almost accidental circumstances that I became a scientist.”
—Bob Lefkowitz
GUEST BIO:
Bob Lefkowitz is best known for his groundbreaking discoveries that reveal the inner workings of an important family of cell receptors inside our bodies which essentially makes 30% to 50% of prescription drugs work, for which he was awarded the Nobel Prize for chemistry. He's currently James B. Duke Professor of Medicine and Professor of Biochemistry and Chemistry at Duke University, and an investigator with the Howard Hughes Medical Institute.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[15:09] - Embracing Failure on the Path to Success
Nobody fails like a scientist
What do all the great scientists have in common? They all have failed badly at times early in their careers. Failure after failure after failure, and then success. It’s simply part of the experience— and not just in the world of science. We would all do well to embrace the role of failure in a successful life.
[25:50] - The Power of Humor
It’s about more than just levity
Why does Bob include humor in everything he does? It helps encourage a spirit of creativity. Humor is about seeing relationships between things you might not ordinarily put together. That’s also a large part of what science is all about.
[31:24] - The Importance of Authenticity
Why Robert holds authenticity in such high esteem
There’s no right way to be a scientist, a mentor, or a person— except the way that’s most true to who you are. Authenticity is often in short supply, but Robert says that when we embrace our authentic selves, it empowers us to achieve far more than we ever thought possible.
[46:35] - Robert on Mentoring
Principles anyone can put to use
The key to mentoring is individualization. What that means is understanding that mentoring isn’t about molding little versions of yourself— it’s about helping people become the best versions of who they are. Mentoring too often becomes an exercise in ego, but it should be an exercise in empathy.
RESOURCES:
- [2:04] A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Stockholm, by Robert Lefkowitz
- [8:14] A Serendipitous Scientist, Essay
- [15:09] On Overcoming Failure
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Discover the secrets of success for you and your organization shared by the world’s leading thinkers, doers, and trailblazers. Join Chris Roebuck, Honorary Visiting Professor of transformational leadership, leader in military, business, and government, inspiring global keynote speaker, one of HR’s Most Influential Thinkers, bestselling author, and your host of Perspectives from the Top. The show reveals a treasure trove of insights from mega trends to practical strategies and actions to take your career up a gear. From government world shapers and business mold breakers to evidence driven academics and enthusiastic entrepreneurs, each episode shows you how you can immediately use these new ideas and actions to drive your success.
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ABOUT DETROIT PODCAST STUDIOS:
In Detroit, history was made when Barry Gordy opened Motown Records back in 1960. More than just discovering great talent, Gordy built a systematic approach to launching superstars. His rigorous processes, technology, and development methods were the secret sauce behind legendary acts such as The Supremes, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Diana Ross and Michael Jackson.
As a nod to the past, Detroit Podcast Studios leverages modern versions of Motown’s processes to launch today’s most compelling podcasts. What Motown was to musical artists, Detroit Podcast Studios is to podcast artists today. With over 75 combined years of experien...

Collaboration, Conviction, and Caring (ft. Justin Welby)
Perspectives from the Top
07/11/22 • 21 min
Collaboration, Conviction, and Caring (ft. Justin Welby)
Perspectives from a unique life’s journey
OPENING QUOTE:
“You go in and serve the people in the silos where you don't know by seeking information, seeking advice, bringing their contribution in, enabling them to feel valued, genuinely valued.”
Justin Welby
GUEST BIO:
Archbishop Justin Welby worked as an oil company group treasurer for much of career, before making a dramatic change of direction and becoming a Church of England curate. He now serves as the Archbishop of Canterbury.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[1:22] - The Right Kind of Caring
The power of priorities
It’s not enough to combat indifference— people need to direct their passion in the right places. In an organization, if their ‘caring’ is centered on their paychecks, that’s misplaced passion. The caring must be focused, holistic, and centered on something beyond self.
[5:42] - Valuing People and Their Potential
Expecting the best from those you trust
A financial services leader named Siegmund Warburgwas known for being deeply compassionate, but also demanding when it came to standards of work. But this expectation reflected how he felt about the people around him— he valued them, and valued their potential to be the best they could possibly be.
[7:49] - A Community, Not an Organization
The key to sustainable leadership
How did the Twelve Apostles, radically different individuals known for bickering, confusing the mission of their leader, and shirking their roles, go on to overcome the largest empire in the world without drawing a sword? They tapped into effective leadership through a community-centered approach. The values inspired the vision, and the vision was lived out in courage through service and humility.
[12:27] - “The Sheer Pleasure of Making Things Work”
Why giving orders doesn’t work
True leadership isn’t giving orders. It’s enabling others to work together so that things begin to happen, so that they catch the ‘bug’ of satisfaction from making things work. If your people can go home in the evening and think, “We’re doing great things,” you’ve tapped into something much more powerful than authority or giving orders.
[16:28] - Admit Mistakes & Learn
“I got it wrong.”
Justin shares a story of when he was new in his time as Archbishop, when he called out payday lenders only to discover that the church itself had invested in those very lenders. Did he hide from this potentially embarrassing mistake? On the contrary, he went on the radio immediately and said, “I was wrong. I take responsibility.” The humility and wisdom to take this approach can turn potentially disastrous events into opportunities to demonstrate your values to the world.
RESOURCES:
- [5:29] About Siegmund Warburg
- [9:56] About Field Marshal Slim
- [16:28] Justin Welby Interview after Payday Lending Controversy
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Leadership Conversations – Unleashing Possibilities (ft. Jamie Price)
Perspectives from the Top
02/21/22 • 47 min
Leadership Conversations – Unleashing Possibilities (ft. Jamie Price)
A discussion with Jamie Price on the well-rounded perspectives that make a great leader
OPENING QUOTE:
“And so it was more of a personal awakening for me, recognizing that in big companies and small companies, taking risks and impacting the whole organization is absolutely doable. In fact, you do it anyway. If you're not intentful about it, you're not doing it well.”
-Jamie Price
GUEST BIO:
Jamie Price has spent most of his career in financial services, building his expertise through roles such as regional sales manager for Prudential securities, theme legion sales director, and onto COO before moving to UBS to become head of wealth management advisor and member of UBS Global Group managing board. Jamie then moved into the startup world as a founder of 1-800-DOCTORS, remotely connecting people around the U.S. with expert doctors and medical experts. He then returned to financial services to become CEO of Advisors Group, one of the largest independent financial advisors in the U.S. He was voted Best CEO in 2021 in U.S. wealth management for large organizations.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[5:41] - The Importance of Being Well-Rounded
A lesson from Jamie’s father
In college, Jamie’s father convinced him to go outside his comfort zone and take a range of classes— even those that may not directly apply to his area of focus. So he took sociology classes alongside his economics and finance classes, and found that this made him have a much more complete, informed worldview that’s not only enhanced his career but also enhanced his life.
[10:14] - Leadership is Conversation
How leading people boils down to talking to them
Jamie frequently says that 90% of leadership happens through conversation. In a leadership conversation, you don’t speak about past factors that got you where you are. You’re realistic about the present and speak in honest terms, while being optimistic about the future— an optimism powered by real belief that’s contagious to the people around you.
[16:49] - Failing and Cheering
Setting ambitious goals and celebrating when they fail
At a management offsite featuring GE legend Larry Bossity, Bossity told Jamie something unexpected: “We rarely hit our internal target and we celebrate wildly.” His point was that when you set lofty internal goals, they’ll push you to outperform the competition even when you don’t meet those goals. Then, you still have reason to celebrate.
[27:06] - Invisible Influence
You are making an impact, whether you know it or not
Everything you do influences your organization in ways you can’t predict. You influence your partners, your colleagues, and others in every interaction you have. As a leader, impacting everything is your job. Are you being deliberate and conscious about your impact?
[36:51] - When Your Team’s On the Field
A lesson learned in an office closet
After he publicly criticized a team member’s comment in a large meeting, one of Jamie’s mentors pulled him aside in a nearby closet and told him that if you want someone on your team off the field, pull them off the field. But never make them miserable while they’re on the field. That lesson applies to anyone in any leadership or collaborative role.
RESOURCES:
- [TIME] About 1-800-Doctors
- [9:51] About the Darden School
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Leading Through Complexity, Creating a Community (ft. Tony Douglas)
Perspectives from the Top
10/31/22 • 65 min
Leading Through Complexity, Creating a Community (ft. Tony Douglas)
Tony Douglas on managing complexity in high-stakes environments
OPENING QUOTE:
“It's about people. There are no organizations without people. Simple as that.”
-Tony Douglas
GUEST BIO:
Tony Douglas is CEO of Etihad Aviation Group with over 30 years of international leadership experience in aerospace, transportation, infrastructure, and government sectors. He joined Etihad in 2018, after being the CEO of the UK's Ministry of Defense Procurement Arm, supplying all the services and equipment for the British Armed Forces valued at over $20 billion pounds a year. Tony has previously held senior leadership positions in the UAE, such as CEO of Abu Dhabi Ports, and in UK, his roles included the Managing Director of the Heathrow Terminal Five Construction Project, CEO of Heathrow Airport, and COO and Group Chief Executive Designate of Laing O'Rourke, a massive global construction company.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[10:53] - We All Have a Part to Play
Junior, senior, everybody in-between
While managing production lines of 4,000 or more people, all heavily unionized, Tony quickly learned that engaging with their community would send productivity through the roof— and failing to engage would be catastrophic. “We’ve all got a part to play,” he says. “Some parts are bigger than others, but unless they all play together, you’ll never get the potential that is clearly there.”
[26:06] - Embracing Diversity from the Ground Up
The difference between success and failure
In his role at Etihad, Tony works with people of 112 different nationalities and an average age of just over 30. He’s learned that diversity must become something that you embrace without a second thought, or you and your teams will fail. Tony even speaks to finding joy in the complexity of navigating diversity, knowing that it ultimately leads to more diverse perspectives and greater success.
[37:47] - Clarity of Purpose in an Organization
Translate what’s required and deliver it
Tony speaks to the importance of clarity and purpose at an organization from the top down. When that clarity is present, everyone within the organization can interpret it and deliver results built around an organization's purpose.
[48:36] - The Power of Ramesh
Being brand ambassadors— and recognizing great ambassadors for your brand
Tony shares a story of an Australian family who stops at the same hotel in Abu Dhabi every time they have a stopover there en route to the UK. Why? Their children have connected so much with an excellent hotel employee named Mr. Ramesh. But the hotel managers not only had no idea what an impact Mr. Ramesh has had for their brand, but didn’t even know who he was.
Imagine if management had realized the power that Ramesh was having for their brand and capitalized on it, instead of being unaware of his impact?
RESOURCES:
- [0:47] About Etihad Aviation Group
- [28:14] About Jack Jarvis
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Discover the secrets of success for you and your organization shared by the world’s leading thinkers, doers, and trailblazers. Join Chris Roebuck, Honorary Visiting Professor of transformational leadership, leader in military, business, and government, inspiring global keynote speaker, one of HR’s Most Influential Thinkers, bestselling author, and your host of Perspectives from the Top. The show reveals a treasure trove of insights from mega trends to practical strategies and actions to take your career up a gear. From government world shapers and business mold breakers to evidence driven academics and enthusiastic entrepreneurs, each episode shows you how you can immediately use these new ideas and actions to drive your success.
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The Success Factor (ft. Ruth Gotian)
Perspectives from the Top
08/08/22 • 59 min
The Success Factor (ft. Ruth Gotian)
What makes astronauts and athletes so successful— and how you can unlock that same power
OPENING QUOTE:
“That clearly was not my calling. Clearly, I was not passionate about it. And that was really my first inkling that you can be good at something and not enjoy it. And that's okay.”
Ruth Gotian
GUEST BIO:
Ruth Gotian is the Chief Learning Officer, Assistant Professor of Education in anesthesiology, and former Executive Director of the mentoring academy at Weill Cornell Medicine. After starting her career in university residency management at NY State and Cornell, she took a brief foray into international banking before moving into academic medical administration. She’s led the transformation of learning and development for thousands of students during her 26 years at Weill Cornell. During this period, Ruth earned her PhD in Education from Columbia. She now studies what makes people successful high-performers so she can help others do the same.
Ruth’s book, The Success Factor, covers this very topic— as do her writings in popular journals such as Nature, Scientific American, Psychology Today, Forbes, and Harvard Business Review. She’s recognized on the Thinkers50 Radar List, arguably the most prestigious honor for management thinkers.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[3:05] - “Do Something Important, Not Just Interesting”
Transformative words from a mentor
After decades of witnessing a lack of progress on pervasive problems, a mentor told Ruth: “Do something important, not just interesting.” This inspired Ruth to begin pursuing the qualitative idea of what drives great achievers to achieve their greatest.
[13:41] - Embracing Collaboration
From finance to academia
Ruth speaks fondly of the collaborative mindset that defines academia. There’s less of a dog-eat-dog mentally than there is in other industries. Instead, many people recognize that the more we work together, the more our efforts will be duplicated and expanded upon in creative ways, leading to greater progress for ourselves and others.
[28:08] - Protective of Your Passions
Embracing your desire to do work you care about
Ruth has often approached highly respected scientists and researchers, including Nobel Prize winners, about taking on dean roles. The most common response? “No, thank you. I’m happy in the lab.” It can be easy to fall into the trap of accepting every ‘promotion’ or step up that comes along. But if it’s a step away from what you love, then is it really a step up?
[38:10] - The Four Traits of High Achievers
From Olympians to astronauts
In Ruth’s research, and her book The Success Factor, she’s found that nearly all high achievers have four main traits: they identify their passions, they strategize on how to achieve them, they build and reinforce a strong foundation, and they’re constantly learning— even through informal means. Now the question is: How can you tap into those traits within yourself, starting today?
[50:29] - The Importance of Mentorship
Finding the right ones with the right mindset
As powerful as a great mentor can be, a poor one can be equally damaging. Find mentors you gel with, with whom you can form strong relationships. Who will be willing to put in the time. These relationships can’t be forced, only built organically.
RESOURCES:
- [1:51] The Success Factor
- [2:20] Thinkers50
- [33:55] Interview with Claire Mann
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You Don’t Need Bosses, You Need Coaches (ft. Garry Ridge)
Perspectives from the Top
06/27/22 • 55 min
You Don’t Need Bosses, You Need Coaches (ft. Garry Ridge)
CEO, entrepreneur, and optimist Garry Ridge gives his Perspectives
OPENING QUOTE:
“Happy people create happy families, happy families create happy communities, happy communities create happy countries, and happy countries create a happy world. And we need a happy world, and business is the force of good for that.”
Garry Ridge
GUEST BIO:
Garry Ridge is CEO of WD-40, having joined in Australia in 1987. He became head of the company’s Asia and Australia efforts in 1994 and CEO in 1997. Since joining the company, he’s expanded the company globally and broadened the product range— all while building an organization that is still true to its founding values. Additionally, he’s written several books on leadership and is Adjunct Professor of Leadership at San Diego University and an executive coach.
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CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[5:54] - The Great Escape
A reframing of the Great Resignation
Garry speaks about the trend of people resigning from companies with cultures that don’t respect them. Now is the time for organizations to ask themselves: “Are people running from your culture or running to your culture?” The question will become increasingly poignant as Gen Z will soon make up over 40% of the working population.
[17:36] - Garry’s Four Ps
People, Purpose, Passion, and Products
You can have the best strategy in the world, but if the will of the people in the organization isn’t there, you’re going to fail. Meanwhile, you can have all the passion, but without a product that fulfills a real need or without a clear company purpose, you’ll also fail. Only when all of these elements are in harmony can a company have truly global success.
[27:29] - Am I Being the Person I Want to Be?
Don’t be the Soul-Sucking CEO
After an a-ha moment when Garry realized that he wasn’t living many of the principles he felt made great leaders. So he put a post-it note on his computer that read, “Am I being the person I want to be right now?” But he didn’t stop there. He made a list of what that person looked like, trait by trait. He still uses that list as a guide for his everyday behaviors and mindsets.
[35:27] - What’s in the Petri Dish?
Creating culture is about what’s there...and what’s not
As a child, Garry grew bacteria cultures in a petri dish. When toxins appeared, they had to be removed quickly or they would make the cultures go bad and fail to grow. In company culture, the goal is the same. You have to enhance what’s in there that you want to remain, and take out what shouldn’t be there as quickly and effectively as possible.
[41:49] - Taking “Mistake” from the Dictionary
Building scar tissue at WD-40
WD-40 as a company has removed the words ‘failure’ and ‘mistake’ from the corporate vocabulary. “We don’t make mistakes. We have learning moments, and learning moments are rich. A positive or negative outcome of any situation has to be openly and freely shared to benefit all people.”
RESOURCES:
- [1:08] History of WD-40
- [2:47] The One Minute Manager
- [4:20] The Earned Life
- [19:55] “The Soul-Sucking CEO”
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Defeating the Personal Debt Trap (ft. Asesh Sarkar)
Perspectives from the Top
09/05/22 • 54 min
Defeating the Personal Debt Trap (ft. Asesh Sarkar)
Asesh Sarkar is changing the way employers and employees handle salary
OPENING QUOTE:
Just like when I joined the workforce as a grad and I had a great experience, making sure that people who join us have a great experience, as well. So yeah, it's quite the journey, and then one we're very much still on and learning every day.
—Asesh Sarkar
GUEST BIO:
Asesh Sarkar is the Global CEO and Co-founder of Salary Finance. Salary Finance is a fast-growing FinTech company which enables employees to receive wage advances to help them pay off their debts faster and save towards their financial goals, operating in both the UK and US. It's been featured twice by Forbes as one of the leading socially responsible startups and as one of the five fast-growing businesses to watch. It's also already become a Harvard case study. Across the UK and US, Salary Finance is used by 500 top employers and available to around 4 million people.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[4:38] -Four Things Great Leaders & Bosses Do
Lessons from Asesh’s first great mentor
Asesh recounts the boss who played the role of a coach in his early career, providing him with four key gifts— autonomy, a listening ear, the feeling of being valued, and flexibility. With these four tools, a coach gives a person much more than any domineering, hard-charging boss could ever provide.
[17:42] - The Model of Reciprocation
You don’t have to be an extrovert to thrive
If you genuinely go out and show other people that you are interested in helping them, you don't have to be an extrovert to thrive in business. If somebody reaches out to help you, and you are happy to help them, it’s often as simple as that. Build authentic trust-based relationships where people know that you are not just in it for a transactional benefit, and your reputation will reflect that. Meanwhile, people that have a history of transactional-based interactions get a reputation for having transactional-based interactions. The number of people who genuinely want to work with them declines over time.
[28:31] - Combining Social Intent with Business Acumen
Asesh’s formula for impact
Asesh shares his vision for an organization with the greatest positive role in the world: the best talent working on problems which can make a real impact in society, combined with a commercial model which means it is commercially scalable and can raise capital to do it at a big, big scale. This idea of business with social purpose is what inspired him to go all-in on Salary Finance.
[50:12] - Asesh’s Message to Leaders
Learning to cut the line
There’s always more work than there is time in the day. It’s rarely a bad decision to cut the line and stop work time a bit further, then use that extra time to spend with colleagues and form human relationships. It makes you better, it makes them better, and everyone performs better as a result. Focus on relationships and watch performance soar.
RESOURCES:
- [0:53] About Salary Finance
- [26:21] “Serve to Lead”
- [37:37] About inclusive capitalism
- [48:00] About MyBnk
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Bringing Buddhism to Business (ft. Marshall Goldsmith)
Perspectives from the Top
05/02/22 • 66 min
Bringing Buddhism to Business (ft. Marshall Goldsmith)
Marshall Goldsmith has found and inspired success by doing everything differently
OPENING QUOTE:
My name is Marshall Goldsmith. I am too cowardly and undisciplined to do any of this stuff by myself. I need help. And you know what? It's okay. Once we get over that macho, I can do it on their own nonsense, everybody gets better.
—Marshall Goldsmith
GUEST BIO:
Marshall Goldsmith’s first degree was in Mathematical Economics, but he quickly moved to the study of people— earning a PhD and professorship of Management Practice at Dartmouth Tuck. Since then, Marshall has been successful as an entrepreneur, business owner, and leadership & executive coach. He’s been ranked among the top of business thinkers and as the number-one global executive coach, receiving the Harvard Institute of Coaching Lifetime Award.
Marshall is also the author of many bestselling books. His new book, The Earned Life, channels Marshall’s Buddhist philosophy to help readers be more fulfilled and focused in life.
CORE TOPICS + DETAILS:
[3:19] - 100 Coaches
The ultimate example of ‘doing unto others’
Inspired by a question about his heroes, Marshall Goldsmith embarked on a quest to coach 100 people for free— under the condition that they one day do the same. The results were astonishing, showing that the world is filled with people eager and willing to impart what they know and give of themselves to others.
[14:18] - Learning by Coaching
How coaches get more out of mentorship than their mentees
One of the most successful people Marshall ever mentored told him, “You have one job as a coach: client selection. You work with great people, your coaching process always works.” Along those lines, Marshall has also found that when he selects great clients, he learns incredible lessons himself along the way.
[22:28] - The Hidden Power of Mentorship
It’s not about coaching— it’s about not judging
Across the many people in various backgrounds that Marshall has coached, one thing he has found is that when they’re being mentored, they’ve expressed that the most meaningful aspect of it for them is that they’re not competing, being judged, being laughed at, or being put down. It’s a sense of community, a group of people all simply trying to be better. That’s a powerful thing.
[32:29] - Getting Lost in Ambition
Sometimes, what you have is enough
Marshall mentions the classic study on delayed gratification that involved asking children to wait to eat a marshmallow, then rewarding them with a second marshmallow if they were able to control themselves. But, Marshall says, if you take that idea to an extreme, “you end up with an old man who needs to die in a room surrounded by uneaten marshmallows. Sometimes, you’ve got to eat the damn marshmallow.”
[40:40] - Empathy & Peace in Work
Deeper lessons than how to succeed
In his most recent book, Marshall applies Buddhist-inspired principles to a range of scenarios and life decisions. He stresses empathy over ambition, encouraging all of us to begin with a mindset of helping others, rather than focusing on how they can help us get to where we want to go. It’s a lesson we all can remember even as we strive to reach the top.
RESOURCES:
- [1:56] The Earned Life
- [2:53] About Paul Hersey
- [3:19] 100 Coaches
- [29:06] Loonshots, by Safi Bahcall
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