
EP 376- Adult Improver Jordan Groff on What it Takes to Make Master in 2024
04/02/24 • 60 min
The Adult Improver Series returns this week, with a guest who has improved his chess rapidly. Jordan Groff is a 24 year old Connecticut-based chess instructor who was recommended as a guest to me by GM Eugene Perelshteyn. Jordan resumed chess in 2018 after some years away, and has gone from 1864 to more than 2260 in about the last few years. During our interview, Jordan shares several ‘secrets” to his success. Aside from a lot of hard work and frequent competition, Jordan particularly credits a focus on the psychological aspects of OTB chess, and on opening preparation and tactics work. You can find out many more details in my interview with Jordan. it is inspiring to see such fast progress! Timestamps of topics discussed can be found below.
0:00- Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com. New courses include Introduction to Chess Calculation, and GM Ganguly’s Lifetime Repertoires: Sidelines and Flank Openings for Black
If you use the link below to sign up for a Chessable pro membership, it helps to support the pod!
https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro
0:00- You can find all of the information you need about the Las Vegas Chess Festival and the National Open here. I hope to see you there!
https://www.vegaschessfestival.com/national-open/
0:01- What got Jordan back into chess in 2018, after some years away?
Mentioned: Ginger GM, Chess Network
13:00- What is Jordan’s approach to the study of openings?
Mentioned: GM Eugene Perelshteyn, FM Nate Solon
20:00- Has Jordan studied a lot of tactics?
25:00- What made Jordan decide to “play up” and play in higher sections?
32:00- What is Jordan’s approach to studying endgames?
37:00- What sort of stuff does Jordan do in his lessons with GM Eugene Perelshteyn?
43:00- Was it challenging for Jordan to earn the National Master title? What are his next goals?
Mentioned: Here is Jordan’s LiChess coaches page:
https://lichess.org/coach/jmwgroff
48:30- What is Jordan’s best advice for people who are stuck?
52:00- Jordan’s recommended chess resources:
Mentioned: How to Reassess Your Chess, Silman’s Complete Endgame Course, Under the Surface, Seven Deadly Chess Sins
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The Adult Improver Series returns this week, with a guest who has improved his chess rapidly. Jordan Groff is a 24 year old Connecticut-based chess instructor who was recommended as a guest to me by GM Eugene Perelshteyn. Jordan resumed chess in 2018 after some years away, and has gone from 1864 to more than 2260 in about the last few years. During our interview, Jordan shares several ‘secrets” to his success. Aside from a lot of hard work and frequent competition, Jordan particularly credits a focus on the psychological aspects of OTB chess, and on opening preparation and tactics work. You can find out many more details in my interview with Jordan. it is inspiring to see such fast progress! Timestamps of topics discussed can be found below.
0:00- Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com. New courses include Introduction to Chess Calculation, and GM Ganguly’s Lifetime Repertoires: Sidelines and Flank Openings for Black
If you use the link below to sign up for a Chessable pro membership, it helps to support the pod!
https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro
0:00- You can find all of the information you need about the Las Vegas Chess Festival and the National Open here. I hope to see you there!
https://www.vegaschessfestival.com/national-open/
0:01- What got Jordan back into chess in 2018, after some years away?
Mentioned: Ginger GM, Chess Network
13:00- What is Jordan’s approach to the study of openings?
Mentioned: GM Eugene Perelshteyn, FM Nate Solon
20:00- Has Jordan studied a lot of tactics?
25:00- What made Jordan decide to “play up” and play in higher sections?
32:00- What is Jordan’s approach to studying endgames?
37:00- What sort of stuff does Jordan do in his lessons with GM Eugene Perelshteyn?
43:00- Was it challenging for Jordan to earn the National Master title? What are his next goals?
Mentioned: Here is Jordan’s LiChess coaches page:
https://lichess.org/coach/jmwgroff
48:30- What is Jordan’s best advice for people who are stuck?
52:00- Jordan’s recommended chess resources:
Mentioned: How to Reassess Your Chess, Silman’s Complete Endgame Course, Under the Surface, Seven Deadly Chess Sins
If you would like to help support Perpetual Chess via Patreon, you can do so here:
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EP 375- FIDE Candidates Mega Preview with GM Rafael Leitão, Chess by the Numbers, and On the Queenside
The FIDE Candidates Tournament begins on April 4 in Toronto, Canada, and I could not be more excited to see who gets to challenge for the FIDE World Championship. As is tradition on Perpetual Chess, we have a few great guests joining to help discuss the action. First up is 7-time Brazilian champion & Correspondence GM, Rafael Leitão. In addition to a vast resume as a player, Rafael regularly annotates top-level games for Chess.com news coverage. Reviewing these games in detail on a daily basis gives Rafael unique insights into the tendencies of the world’s top players. Rafael and I discuss what to watch for in each player’s performance, fun facts, and what opening choices we might see from each player.
Following Rafael, I am joined by Tai Pruce Zimmerman, a/k/a Chess by the Numbers. Tai shares and discusses the win probability of both the open and the women’s candidates, and we also compare the output of Tai’s probabilistic model to the betting markets. Last but not least, I am joined by “On the Queenside,” who has built a large following on Twitter and Lichess for covering Women’s Chess in detail. We discuss whether it is a good idea to run the Women’s Candidates concurrently with the open, and which players we are excited to watch. As always, the timestamps of the guests, as well as the topics and players discussed can be found below.
0:00- Thanks to our sponsor, Chessable.com. New courses include Introduction to Chess Calculation, and GM Ganguly’s Lifetime Repertoires: Sidelines and Flank Openings for Black
If you use the link below to sign up for a Chessable pro membership, it helps to support the pod!
https://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro
0:01- Format notes on the FIDE Candidates, including tournament schedule, tiebreak rules, and the Perpetual Chess’ plan for covering the event.
Mentioned: More info on the Candidates here, including tiebreak info:
More from Chess.com here
09:30- GM Rafael Rafael Leitão joins me for a detailed Candidates discussion!
Mentioned: Rafael’s prior interview was episode 147.
15:00- Can Ian Nepomniatchtchi “threepeat” at the Candidate?
21:50- GM Nijat Abasov.
25:30- GM Fabiano Caruana
Mentioned: Leitao-Caruana 2010
30:00- GM Praggnanandhaa Rameshababu
32:30- Hikaru Nakamura
Mentioned: GM Daniel King’s YT Candidates Previews:
37:45- Alireza Firouzja
44:00- GM Vidit Gujirathi
47:00- GM Gukesh Dommaraju
51:30- Who does Rafael predict will win?
Mentioned: Bwin’s betting market on the Candidates:
54:00- Rafael shares his thoughts on the Women’s Candidates. More info here:
59:00- Rafael discusses his own chess career, and what is new from our prior interview. This includes a compelling argument for Chess960.
Mentioned:GM Luis Paolo Supi, Supi-Carlsen 2020
1:09:00- Thanks to Rafael for joining me! Here is how to keep up with him:
Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/@rafaelleitaogm
X/Twitter- https://twitter.com/rafpig?lang=en
Website- https://rafaelleitao.com/articles/
1:10:00- Tai Pruce Zimmerman aka Chess by the Numbers rejoins me to talk Candidates statistiics!
Mentioned: Betting market here
1:31:00- What does Tai’s model say on who is most likely to win the Woman’s Candidates?
1:41:00- Thanks to Tai for joining me! Follow him on X here:
1:42;00- On the Queenside joins. Is it a good idea to have the Women’s Candidates...
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Bonus Pod- FIDE Candidates First 4 Round Breakdown. Nepo leads (As usual). Plus a Fan's Toronto Trip Report
The 2024 FIDE Candidates tournament is off and running with some entertaining chess and plenty of surprises. (Although perhaps the identities of the leaders in the Open and Women’s sections aren’t as surprising.) I have been riveted by this tournament and am hoping to provide audio analysis and perspective from different guests on each rest day. In today’s pod, I briefly share my early impressions, than welcome recent guest Denis Markov back to the podcast. Denis had just returned from attending Rounds 1 and 2 in Toronto and described what it was like to attend the event. We went into everything from FIDE’s cheat prevention methods, to what the viewing experience is like within the venue. Whether you are thinking of making a last minute trip to Toronto, or just want to live vicariously through Denis, I think you will enjoy his report of a trip that Denis says he definitely will not regret. We will be back with more coverage of this fantastic tournament on the next rest day, Friday April 12.
00:02 - Introduction and Plan for Perpetual Chess Coverage
02:00- Tournament Standings and Ben’s early Impressions
11:00 -Preview of Round Five Pairings
13:30- Denis Markov joins for a trip report from Toronto (previously heard on Episode 359)
13:57- Buying Tickets and Ticket Options
15:40- VIP Tickets and Balcony Experience
17:32- What it is like watching the players
19:50- Player Interactions and Autographs
23:00- The Fan Zone and Chess Personalities
26:47 -Spotting Chess Personalities
31:41-Meeting Gukesh and Viswanathan Anand
33:57-- Comparing the Candidates Tournament with attending the 2016 World Championship Match
36:57- Denis' Final Thoughts
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