
PediPal
PediPal
A monthly podcast about pediatric palliative care, hosted by two pediatric palliative care docs, Sarah Dabagh, MD, and Daniel Eison, MD, MS. Sharing the insights, opinions, narratives, commentaries, and invectives of #pedpc.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best PediPal episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to PediPal for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite PediPal episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

12/30/21 • 38 min
"So, what kind of work do you do?" When you're in pediatric palliative care, what answer do you give? And how do you respond to the inevitable follow-ups? "That's so sad," "You must be so special," "I could never do that..." We've all been there. So in this final episode of 2021, Dan and Sarah interview three peds palliative physicians—Allison Silverstein (@agsils), Jared Rubenstein (@DrJRubenstein), and Chris Adrian—about their responses to the dreaded cocktail party questions, as well as their insights on what these questions and answers teach us about very the nature palliative care and its practitioners.
Referenced in this episode:
Allison Silverstein and Jared Rubenstein - "Oh, That Must Be So Sad" (pdf on Google Drive)
Jared Rubenstein - "Oh That's So Sad" (video on youtube.com)
Christopher Adrian - "The Question" (article in NEJM)
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07/29/21 • 41 min
Do you like my hat? No? How about this one?
In this episode, Sarah and Dan talk with three physicians who each wear two hats: palliative care and another specialty.
Wynne Morrison (Children's Hospital of Philadelphia) dons and doffs a PICU chapeau, Natasha Henner (Lurie Children's Hospital) wears a NICU cap, and Elisabeth Dellon (UNC Children's Hospital) is ready to switch from palliative to pulmonology and back at the drop of a... well, you get it.
So what's it like to practice two specialties concurrently? And is this millinery metaphor really a feather in our cap or could we have topped it? Hang on to your hats as we throw Episode 6 into the ring!
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Episode 12: Hyderabad, India
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02/28/22 • 27 min
PediPal is going international! In this inaugural episode of our new series, Dan and Sarah interview Dr. Spandana Rayala (@SpandanaRayala), a pediatric palliative care physician in Hyderabad, India.
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09/30/22 • 46 min
Curative therapy and hospice... at the same time?! Since the Affordable Care Act, pediatric patients don't have to give up one to benefit from the other. But does this model really work, and does it make sense for the realities of pediatric palliative care and hospice as in 2022? To figure it all out, Sarah and Dan have a concurrent conversation with Steven Smith (@stevenmsmith913) and Conrad Williams (@conradw4) about Cadillacs, cookies, and #PedPC's biggest Twitter rivalry.
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Episode 37: Homeward Bound
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07/01/24 • 32 min
Even before heading homeward from the Annual Assembly, Dan and Sarah decided that we needed to do an episode about one of our favorite presentations, palliative home transports. So in this interview, Ashley Autrey from Children's Hospital New Orleans and Lindsay Ragsdale from Kentucky Children's Hospital bring it on home to you, our audience, sharing their wisdom and expertise about how to get some of our most complex and fragile patients out of the hospital, and what it means to honor death location preference.
This episode also features some exciting new AI integrations because... why not, right, I mean everything else has AI in it now, so... Will Sarah and Dan be replaced by robots? Have the robots learned anything about palliative care? Tune in to find out!
Materials
The Children's Hospital New Orleans home transport checklist, courtesy of Dr. Autrey

Episode 34: Prognosticaution
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03/04/24 • 25 min
Where do the fields of Palliative Care, Neurology, and PM&R overlap? Where can we learn more about how to approach the dreaded uncertainty of neurologic prognostication? In this episode! Overcoming some technical difficulties, Dan (kinda) and Sarah discuss the field of Pediatric Neuropalliative Care with Marina Ma and Lauren Treat.

04/29/22 • 33 min
Our world tour continues with this next stop in Wellington, New Zealand. Dan and Sarah interview paediatric palliative care specialist Amanda Evans (@amaevans), who teaches them a bit of New Zealand history, some Maori concepts of health and illness, and a lesson on just how cool Jacinda Ardern really is.

Episode 3: Pediatric Islands
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04/26/21 • 40 min
As Pediatric Palliative Care grows, new programs are started and restarted, often by recent fellowship graduates. This leaves the landscape of PPC dotted with islands of solo providers or tiny teams in various stages of growing pains.
In this third episode of Pedipal, Sarah and Dan indulge their pandemic-thwarted wanderlust, island hopping among three different palliative islands, each with its own unique history:
Our first stop is with Dr. Ami Mehta, founder of the first dedicated Palliative Care service at Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters in Norfolk, Virginia.
Then we visit Dr. Max Lindeman, who has taken on the challenge of restarting and redefining the program at Columbia NYP's Morgan Stanley Children's Hospital on the actual island of Manhattan.
Our last visit is with Dr. Jennifer Kett, who shares her experience on a shrinking Palliative Care team at Mary Bridge Children's Hospital in sunny Tacoma, Washington, and teaches us our new favorite mirror affirmation: "You're the only you, but you're not the only one."
Theme music: "Sneaky Adventure," by Kevin MacLeod (2009)

03/01/23 • 29 min
A social worker, a nurse practitioner, and three physicians walk into a podcast... There's no punchline, just the latest episode of PediPal, where Dan and Sarah interview three of the interprofessional fellows from the Boston Children's interprofessional fellowship program--Jennifer Donovan, Amy Porter, and Thomas Haire--and challenge ourselves to say the word "interprofessional" as many times as possible. We also include some clips from past episodes that resonate with the themes from the interview, so listen up for some old familiar voices from PediPal history.

Episode 4: A Lovely Episode
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05/27/21 • 27 min
How lovely it would be if everyone were as thoughtful and palliative-minded as we are! Palliative care providers are meticulous about language when talking to patients and families, but are we as thoughtful about the words we use to talk about our patients and families?
In Episode 4, Sarah and Dan talk to Gitanjli Arora, MD (@pedsworld), and Rachel Rusch, LCSW, MA (@RuschRachel), from the CHLA Comfort and Palliative Care Team. Inspired by Dr. Arora's essay, "A Lovely Family," in the Journal of Palliative Medicine (@PalliativeMed_j), we discuss how even the most lovely of words can prevent us from digging deeper, disrupt the productive tension where palliation dwells, and perpetuate our biases.
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FAQ
How many episodes does PediPal have?
PediPal currently has 39 episodes available.
What topics does PediPal cover?
The podcast is about Health & Fitness, Pediatric, Research, Medicine, Podcasts, Education, Health and Death.
What is the most popular episode on PediPal?
The episode title 'Episode 10: The Cocktail Party' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on PediPal?
The average episode length on PediPal is 34 minutes.
How often are episodes of PediPal released?
Episodes of PediPal are typically released every 31 days.
When was the first episode of PediPal?
The first episode of PediPal was released on Feb 20, 2021.
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