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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast

Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast

Keith J. Barnett, Joshua McBeain, Carlin A. McCrory, Troutman Pepper Locke

Payment processors, money transmitters, financial institutions, lenders, and other financial technology businesses face increasing scrutiny from regulators, as well as heightened consumer expectations. Troutman Pepper Locke's Payments Pros podcast features insights from our attorneys and business leaders, regulatory experts, and stakeholders on the most challenging legal and regulatory concerns confronted by companies and others in the payments industry. From the BSA to EFTs, fintech to regtech, licensure to lending, Nacha to the CFPB, and payment processing to debt collecting, we have you covered.
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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - CFPB's New Interpretive Rule: Buy Now, Pay Later as Credit Cards
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07/11/24 • 18 min

In this special crossover episode of The Consumer Finance Podcast and Payments Pros Podcast, Chris Willis and Josh McBeain interview two colleagues who delve into the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) recent interpretive rule that classifies buy now, pay later (BNPL) transactions as credit cards. Mark Furletti and Jason Cover explore the implications of this rule under Regulation Z, including the introduction of the term "digital user account" and its impact on BNPL providers. The discussion covers the regulatory requirements, potential challenges for compliance, and the broader legal context, including the possible effects of the Loper Bright case on administrative interpretations. With a July 30 compliance deadline looming, the episode provides critical insights for industry stakeholders navigating this significant regulatory shift.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - Regulation Through Enforcement: Insights From the BlueSnap Lawsuit
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06/20/24 • 22 min

In this episode of Payments Pros, host Keith Barnett discusses the Federal Trade Commission's (FTC) lawsuit and $10 million settlement against the payment facilitator, BlueSnap. On May 1, the FTC filed a complaint alleging that BlueSnap and its executives aided and abetted a debt relief service provider's violations of the Telemarketing Sales Rule, along with violating Section 5 of the FTC Act.

Keith highlights the FTC's allegations regarding BlueSnap's onboarding and due diligence processes, noting the issues that the FTC examines when investigating companies that facilitate payments, such as email correspondence, chargeback rates, fraud monitoring alerts, consumer complaints, and the circumstances under which the FTC believes a company should stop processing payments for merchants.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - Third-Party Risk Management in Bank-Fintech Partnerships: Strategies and Insights
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06/05/24 • 24 min

In this episode of Payments Pros, Carlin McCrory is joined by Nathan Ottinger, president of Georgia Banking Company's Payments and Technology Banking Group. They delve into the current state of the payments marketplace, characterized by heightened regulatory scrutiny and rapid innovation. Nathan underscores the importance of well-documented risk management strategies for financial institutions and the necessity for businesses to secure proficient legal counsel, particularly in the realm of money transmission.

Nathan shares how Georgia Banking Company strategically focuses on specific industry segments and payment types, consciously avoiding the allure of the latest trends in bank-fintech partnerships. He emphasizes the significance of cultivating direct client relationships, conducting thorough due diligence during the client onboarding process, and maintaining ongoing portfolio management and oversight.

Discussing payment technology innovations, Nathan highlights tools that enhance risk management and streamline processes. He concludes by reiterating the high ethical and regulatory standards required when handling other people's money, stressing the need for alignment between the client, the bank, and regulatory requirements.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - An In-Depth Analysis of the CFPB's Proposed Overdraft Rule

An In-Depth Analysis of the CFPB's Proposed Overdraft Rule

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05/22/24 • 19 min

In this episode of Payments Pros, Josh McBeain and Chris Willis discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) proposed rule on overdraft fees. The rule, which only applies to large financial institutions with assets over $10 billion, aims to regulate overdraft services by altering the definition of 'finance charge,' effectively subjecting these institutions to Regulation Z's disclosure and substantive provisions. Chris and Josh delve into the complexities of the proposed rule, considering its potential implications and the likelihood of litigation challenges from the industry. They also discuss the role of the Truth in Lending Act (TILA) and the concept of Chevron deference in this context.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - Tackling Credit Push Fraud: Understanding Nacha's Risk Management Package (Part Two)
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05/02/24 • 10 min

In the final episode of the Payments Pros special two-part series, Jordan Bennett, Nacha's senior director of network risk management, joins Keith and Carlin to discuss the new rules regarding fraud monitoring.

Fraud Monitoring Phase 1 will become effective on March 20, 2026, and Phase 2 on June 19, 2026. These rules require all nonconsumer originators, ODFIs, third-party service providers, and third-party senders to establish and implement risk-based procedures to identify potential fraudulent transactions. The aim is to reduce the incidence of successful fraud attempts.

The group discusses that the rules do not prescribe a specific method for monitoring, allowing each party to adapt according to their needs. However, inaction is not an option. Parties should conduct a risk assessment and adjust their policies accordingly.

Jordan advises leveraging existing resources and ensuring contacts are prepared to respond to fraud incidents. He clarifies that these changes don't reallocate liability or establish new duties, but aim to foster teamwork in fraud prevention.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - Tackling Credit Push Fraud: Understanding Nacha's Risk Management Package (Part One)
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04/19/24 • 17 min

In this episode of Payments Pros, Carlin and Keith welcome back Jordan Bennett, Nacha's senior director of network risk management, for a two-part series on the newly approved rules designed to combat credit push fraud. Credit push fraud has been on the rise, and Nacha released a risk management framework to increase awareness and mitigate such frauds.

The new rules, approved by Nacha's members on March 18, aim to mitigate fraud incidents such as business email compromise and efforts to exploit credit push payments. Part one of this series explores the risk management package, discussing the comprehensive set of rules and multiple rule amendments effective from October of the current year.

Jordan highlights that the effective dates for some rules extend into 2026, providing ample time for preparation. The rules package was carefully crafted to reduce incidents of credit push frauds and provide financial institutions with useful tools.

In addition to the rules, Nacha is also focusing on education and has released risk management guidance. The guidance is designed to help financial institutions improve their risk controls.

The new rules include amendments for fraud monitoring by all parties in the ACH network, new rules around fund recovery tools, standardization of certain data fields, and changes to the Written Statement of Unauthorized Debit (WSUD) process. The rules are designed to increase awareness of fraud schemes, reduce successful fraud attempts, and improve recovery after frauds have occurred.

Part two of this series will focus on fraud monitoring and what ACH Network participants can start doing now to comply with the recently passed rules.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - Navigating the Corporate Transparency Act

Navigating the Corporate Transparency Act

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04/04/24 • 16 min

In this episode of Payments Pros, Carlin McCrory is joined by Nick St. John, director of regulatory compliance at America's Credit Unions, to discuss the Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) and related developments from the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). Enacted in 2021, the CTA aims to combat the use of anonymous legal entities for money laundering. It mandates that legal entities report their beneficial ownership information to FinCEN, which maintains a database accessible to law enforcement, financial institutions, and other entities that meet specific criteria.

Nick explains that the CTA applies to corporations and similar entities, with exceptions like banks and credit unions. Entities must report information about the company and its beneficial owners, defined as any person with a 25% or more ownership interest or who exercises substantial control. Reporting deadlines vary based on the company's creation date.

He also clarifies the difference between beneficial ownership reporting to financial institutions and the new reporting to FinCEN. Under the CTA, there is no numerical limit to the number of control persons that must be reported. Financial institutions can request this information for customer due diligence compliance requirements. Carlin and Nick conclude by discussing future developments from FinCEN, including when the information will be made available to financial institutions and changes to existing rules to align with the CTA.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - The CFPB's Final Credit Card Late Fee Rule: Implications and Industry Response
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03/21/24 • 20 min

In this special crossover edition of Payments Pros and The Consumer Finance Podcast, Chris Willis is joined by Josh McBeain and Glen Trudel. They discuss the recent final credit card late fee rule issued by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) and the industry's reaction to it. The rule lowers the safe harbor provision dollar amount for late fees to $8 for large credit card issuers and increases it for small issuers. The team also discusses the legal challenge filed against the rule by a collective of trade groups. They speculate on potential industry responses if the rule survives legal challenges, such as increasing APRs, creating new fees, raising minimum payments, and tightening credit.

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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast - Instant Decline, Instant Relief? Unpacking the CFPB's Proposed Rule on NSF Fees
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03/07/24 • 22 min

In this episode of Payments Pros, co-hosts Keith Barnett and Carlin McCrory discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) latest proposed rule. This rule aims to prohibit covered financial institutions from charging consumers nonsufficient funds (NSF) fees on transactions that are declined instantaneously or near instantaneously.

The CFPB believes this rule will benefit consumers who would otherwise incur NSF fees, potentially leading their accounts to drop to zero or below zero. However, it also acknowledges that financial institutions may become less willing to open depository accounts for these consumers, potentially increasing the number of unbanked and underbanked individuals.

The rule, proposed on January 24, is open for comments until March 25, and is expected to be finalized 30 days after publication in the Federal Register.

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In this episode of Payments Pros, Keith Barnett is joined by Eli Polanco, founder and CEO of Nivelo, to discuss critical issues in payroll processing. They highlight the significant impact that the Money Transmitter Modernization Act (MTMA) will have on payroll processors in the states that have adopted the portion of the MTMA requiring payroll processors to obtain money transmitter licenses.

Eli explains the complexities introduced by the MTMA, including the need for payroll providers to navigate through state regulations. This has led to increased operational costs and uncertainty within the industry.

The discussion also covers the critical role of payroll providers and their bank partners in managing the movement of employee payroll across the country, which includes tax payments and garnishments. Eli emphasizes the importance of robust risk management practices and compliance with Nacha rules. Looking ahead, Eli predicts increased consolidation in the payroll industry and higher costs for payroll services due to regulatory pressures, which potentially stifles competition and innovation.

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How many episodes does Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast have?

Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast currently has 39 episodes available.

What topics does Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast cover?

The podcast is about Fintech, Podcasts, Technology and Business.

What is the most popular episode on Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast?

The episode title 'Navigating New Compliance Challenges: The Impact of the Money Transmitter Modernization Act on Payroll Processing' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast?

The average episode length on Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast is 21 minutes.

How often are episodes of Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast released?

Episodes of Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast are typically released every 14 days, 9 hours.

When was the first episode of Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast?

The first episode of Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast was released on Jun 6, 2023.

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