Designer of Interventions - with Morten Bune Pedersen

12/21/23 • 76 min

On Service design as mediation, on the borders of organizational development, with guest Morten Pedersten.

In this guest episode, Juli, Morten, and guest dog Max hiked around the Hålandsvatnet lake near Stavanger and talked about Scandinavian design and business culture.

The path we took:

A brief intro to Morten, and the step to leave a management role to build something new;
How a background in psychology and organizational development can merge with service design;
A dream Scandinavian company: transparency, open salaries, sharing burdens and ownership at Canoe;
The Scandinavian design world, with a history of collaboration, flat hierarchies, and government support for design;
Designers who help and serve vs designers who want to impress;
Changing definitions and expectations around design work;
And a brief glimpse into AI, as a mediator between people, not a shortcut to cheaper work.

Further reading:

https://servicedesignnext.com
https://www.canoe.no/
https://www.regjeringen.no/globalassets/upload/bld/nedsatt-funksjonsevne/norway-universally-designed-by-2025-web.pdf
Mauricio Manhaes' article in Touchpoint Magazine about Design as Female Characteristics can be downloaded here. Ongoing conversation on the subject on Linkedin can be followed here.

Grab your headphones, and head to the nearest lake to walk with us!

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On Service design as mediation, on the borders of organizational development, with guest Morten Pedersten.

In this guest episode, Juli, Morten, and guest dog Max hiked around the Hålandsvatnet lake near Stavanger and talked about Scandinavian design and business culture.

The path we took:

A brief intro to Morten, and the step to leave a management role to build something new;
How a background in psychology and organizational development can merge with service design;
A dream Scandinavian company: transparency, open salaries, sharing burdens and ownership at Canoe;
The Scandinavian design world, with a history of collaboration, flat hierarchies, and government support for design;
Designers who help and serve vs designers who want to impress;
Changing definitions and expectations around design work;
And a brief glimpse into AI, as a mediator between people, not a shortcut to cheaper work.

Further reading:

https://servicedesignnext.com
https://www.canoe.no/
https://www.regjeringen.no/globalassets/upload/bld/nedsatt-funksjonsevne/norway-universally-designed-by-2025-web.pdf
Mauricio Manhaes' article in Touchpoint Magazine about Design as Female Characteristics can be downloaded here. Ongoing conversation on the subject on Linkedin can be followed here.

Grab your headphones, and head to the nearest lake to walk with us!

Ps. If you want to chime in, DM us or leave a comment on our Instagram, or find us on Threads - we're @paths.puddles.products and would love your feedback!

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Service Design, meet AI - with Pontus Wärnestål - Part 2

On the need for service design in the age of AI, with award-winning Service Designer and Human-Computer Interaction researcher Pontus Wärnestål. The second part of a two-part episode.

In this guest episode, Juli, Pontus, and the pack hiked up to the Hármashatárhegy airport to dive deep into all the things we call AI.

The path we took:

Thought leaders who can expand our understanding of tech possibilities
Humans changing the job landscape with AI, or AI taking our jobs
How AI is about predicting the future, and how that can go very wrong
The agency of designers on a strategic level, design maturity in an organization
The way forward is education - different education paths leading to responsible service design
Worries about the dilution of the service design profession
How interaction design can finally be about designing interactions, not just screens
And advice for mindful design in the age of AI

Further reading:

Grab your headphones, and head to the snowy hills to walk with us!

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Respect for Design - with Scott Zimmer - Part 1

On building respect for designers in an organization, with our guest Scott Zimmer.

In this guest episode, Juli and Scott hiked the Buda Hills and talked about hiring designers, giving them a seat at the table, and building a culture that respects design.

The path we took:

Making connections over a Medium article;
Building design teams and the dangers of naive hiring;
Entrepreneurship as a creative output;
How a culture that respects design can look like;
Designers getting a seat at the table, and going from receivers to influencers of decisions;
The importance of apprenticeship and mentorship in designer careers;
And treating designers as a partner, not a resource.

Further reading:

Grab your headphones, and come walk with us!

Ps. If you want to chime in, DM us, comment on our Instagram, or find us on Threads - we're @paths.puddles.products and would love your feedback!

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