
Episode 92: Marine Mammal Communications and Photographing Environmental Conflicts
12/10/23 • 28 min
On this episode of Outdoors with Lawrence Gunther, Lilly shares a story about dolphins rescuing a mother and baby whale from sharks, and we learn about marine mammal communications. National Geographic photographer Brent Stirton shares stories about his 25 years of photographing and reporting on environmental conflict, and Lawrence has a few tips on taking pictures without the use of sight. Lawrence also reflects on getting outdoors to open up your hearing..
Highlights:
- Introduction (00:00)
- How Animals Hear Underwater / Dolphins Rescue Whale (01:00)
- Human Hearing Test (02:42)
- Blue Whales Frequency Range (06:20)
- Brent Stirton Interview (7:46)
- Getting Started as a Photographer (8:52)
- Covering the End of Apartheid in South Africa & Photographing African Conflicts (10:31)
- Becoming an “Environmental Photographer” (11:33)
- Photographing Evacuation of Mountain Gorillas for Newsweek (13:00)
- Working for National Geographic (15:05)
- Covering Environmental Conflicts (16:26)
- Human Greed, the Illegal Wildlife Trade & Ancient Asian Medicine (17:07)
- Shutting Down the Shark Fin Industry (20:06)
- COVID, Human Disease & the Bush Meat Industry (21:13)
- Lawrence’s Photography Tips for Blind and Partially-Sighted People (23:35)
- Why Your Hearing Expands in the Outdoors (26:06)
- Show Close (27:40)
About Brent Stirton:
Brent Stirton is a South African photographer with an extensive history in the documentary world. Brent’s work has been published by National Geographic Magazine, GEO, Le Figaro, Stern, Der Spiegel, Paris Match, Vanity Fair, Newsweek, Time, The New York Times Magazine, The UK Sunday Times Magazine and many other respected international titles.
Brent is a fellow of the National Geographic society and a National Geographic explorer. He has worked for UN OCHA, UNICEF, UN FAO, Doctors without Borders, Drugs for Neglected Disease, WWF, CNN, the Ford, Clinton and Gates Foundations, the Nike Foundation and the World Economic Forum. Brent has shot numerous reports for Human Rights Watch. He has done commercial assignments including annual reports for Novartis and commercial work for Volvo and Landrover. He is a Canon Ambassador.
Brent has received 13 awards from World Press Photo and 16 awards from The Pictures of the Year International contest. He has won a National Magazine Award for his work for National Geographic Magazine in the Congo. He has won the Visa D’or award from Visa Pour L’Image twice for feature photography. Brent has twice been a finalist for the Prix Pictet award. He has been named Wildlife photographer of the year by the British Natural History Museum and has won Wildlife photojournalist of the year five times. In 2016 Brent won the National Geographic Magazine Photographer's Photographer Award. He has received multiple awards from the World Photography Awards, the Overseas Press Club, The Webbys, The Association of International Broadcasters, the HIPA Awards, the Frontline Club, the Deadline Club, Days Japan, China International Photo Awards, the Lead Awards Germany, Graphis, Communication Arts, American Photography, American Photo and the American Society of Publication Designers as well as the London Association of Photographers. Brent has received multiple Lucie Awards including International photographer of the Year.
Brent has been recognized by the United Nations for his work on the Environment and in the field of HIV/AIDS. Brent guided and co-produced a documentary on Virunga National Park - The Gorilla Murders for National Geographic Television as well as appearing in the show. The documentary won the Emmy for Best Investigative Documentary Feature. Brent received a Peabody Award for his work with Human Rights Watch for most significant work in an electronic medium.
Brent’s work has appeared in numerous print shows around the world and his images are in a number of museum collections. Brent currently spends most of his time working on long-term investigative projects for National Geographic Magazine. He is a Senior Correspondent for Getty Images. He remains committed to issues relating to wildlife and conservation, global health, diminish...
On this episode of Outdoors with Lawrence Gunther, Lilly shares a story about dolphins rescuing a mother and baby whale from sharks, and we learn about marine mammal communications. National Geographic photographer Brent Stirton shares stories about his 25 years of photographing and reporting on environmental conflict, and Lawrence has a few tips on taking pictures without the use of sight. Lawrence also reflects on getting outdoors to open up your hearing..
Highlights:
- Introduction (00:00)
- How Animals Hear Underwater / Dolphins Rescue Whale (01:00)
- Human Hearing Test (02:42)
- Blue Whales Frequency Range (06:20)
- Brent Stirton Interview (7:46)
- Getting Started as a Photographer (8:52)
- Covering the End of Apartheid in South Africa & Photographing African Conflicts (10:31)
- Becoming an “Environmental Photographer” (11:33)
- Photographing Evacuation of Mountain Gorillas for Newsweek (13:00)
- Working for National Geographic (15:05)
- Covering Environmental Conflicts (16:26)
- Human Greed, the Illegal Wildlife Trade & Ancient Asian Medicine (17:07)
- Shutting Down the Shark Fin Industry (20:06)
- COVID, Human Disease & the Bush Meat Industry (21:13)
- Lawrence’s Photography Tips for Blind and Partially-Sighted People (23:35)
- Why Your Hearing Expands in the Outdoors (26:06)
- Show Close (27:40)
About Brent Stirton:
Brent Stirton is a South African photographer with an extensive history in the documentary world. Brent’s work has been published by National Geographic Magazine, GEO, Le Figaro, Stern, Der Spiegel, Paris Match, Vanity Fair, Newsweek, Time, The New York Times Magazine, The UK Sunday Times Magazine and many other respected international titles.
Brent is a fellow of the National Geographic society and a National Geographic explorer. He has worked for UN OCHA, UNICEF, UN FAO, Doctors without Borders, Drugs for Neglected Disease, WWF, CNN, the Ford, Clinton and Gates Foundations, the Nike Foundation and the World Economic Forum. Brent has shot numerous reports for Human Rights Watch. He has done commercial assignments including annual reports for Novartis and commercial work for Volvo and Landrover. He is a Canon Ambassador.
Brent has received 13 awards from World Press Photo and 16 awards from The Pictures of the Year International contest. He has won a National Magazine Award for his work for National Geographic Magazine in the Congo. He has won the Visa D’or award from Visa Pour L’Image twice for feature photography. Brent has twice been a finalist for the Prix Pictet award. He has been named Wildlife photographer of the year by the British Natural History Museum and has won Wildlife photojournalist of the year five times. In 2016 Brent won the National Geographic Magazine Photographer's Photographer Award. He has received multiple awards from the World Photography Awards, the Overseas Press Club, The Webbys, The Association of International Broadcasters, the HIPA Awards, the Frontline Club, the Deadline Club, Days Japan, China International Photo Awards, the Lead Awards Germany, Graphis, Communication Arts, American Photography, American Photo and the American Society of Publication Designers as well as the London Association of Photographers. Brent has received multiple Lucie Awards including International photographer of the Year.
Brent has been recognized by the United Nations for his work on the Environment and in the field of HIV/AIDS. Brent guided and co-produced a documentary on Virunga National Park - The Gorilla Murders for National Geographic Television as well as appearing in the show. The documentary won the Emmy for Best Investigative Documentary Feature. Brent received a Peabody Award for his work with Human Rights Watch for most significant work in an electronic medium.
Brent’s work has appeared in numerous print shows around the world and his images are in a number of museum collections. Brent currently spends most of his time working on long-term investigative projects for National Geographic Magazine. He is a Senior Correspondent for Getty Images. He remains committed to issues relating to wildlife and conservation, global health, diminish...
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- “The Cure for Blindness” - National Geographic Story (05:58)
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- For the Love of Evergreens (23:36)
- Show Close (24:57)
About Brent Stirton:
Brent Stirton is a South African photographer with an extensive history in the documentary world. Brent’s work has been published by National Geographic Magazine, GEO, Le Figaro, Stern, Der Spiegel, Paris Match, Vanity Fair, Newsweek, Time, The New York Times Magazine, The UK Sunday Times Magazine and many other respected international titles.
Brent is a fellow of the National Geographic society and a National Geographic explorer. He has worked for UN OCHA, UNICEF, UN FAO, Doctors without Borders, Drugs for Neglected Disease, WWF, CNN, the Ford, Clinton and Gates Foundations, the Nike Foundation and the World Economic Forum. Brent has shot numerous reports for Human Rights Watch. He has done commercial assignments including annual reports for Novartis and commercial work for Volvo and Landrover. He is a Canon Ambassador.
Brent has received 13 awards from World Press Photo and 16 awards from The Pictures of the Year International contest. He has won a National Magazine Award for his work for National Geographic Magazine in the Congo. He has won the Visa D’or award from Visa Pour L’Image twice for feature photography. Brent has twice been a finalist for the Prix Pictet award. He has been named Wildlife photographer of the year by the British Natural History Museum and has won Wildlife photojournalist of the year five times. In 2016 Brent won the National Geographic Magazine Photographer's Photographer Award. He has received multiple awards from the World Photography Awards, the Overseas Press Club, The Webbys, The Association of International Broadcasters, the HIPA Awards, the Frontline Club, the Deadline Club, Days Japan, China International Photo Awards, the Lead Awards Germany, Graphis, Communication Arts, American Photography, American Photo and the American Society of Publication Designers as well as the London Association of Photographers. Brent has received multiple Lucie Awards including International photographer of the Year.
Brent has been recognized by the United Nations for his work on the Environment and in the field of HIV/AIDS. Brent guided and co-produced a documentary on Virunga National Park - The Gorilla Murders for National Geographic Television as well as appearing in the show. The documentary won the Emmy for Best Investigative Documentary Feature. Brent received a Peabody Award for his work with Human Rights Watch for most significant work in an electronic medium.
Brent’s work has appeared in numerous print shows around the world and his images are in a number of museum collections. Brent currently spends most of his time working on long-term investigative projects for National Geographic Magazine. He is a Senior Correspondent for Getty Images. He remains committed to issues relating to wildlife and conservation, global health, diminishing cultures, sustainability and the environment.
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