Out of Our Minds

Rev. Dr. Jürgen von Hagen, the senior pastor of Free Evangelical Church in Mülheim an der Ruhr, Germany, and professor of economics at the University of Bonn, Germany, joins Rev. Bayly at the Michigan house for a free-ranging conversation on Ukraine, Putin, German church history, the European economy, and leadership.

A quick summary of Jürgen's view: Putin won't be satisfied with Ukraine.

Two books referenced in the show, both by Timothy Snyder:

Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin

The Road to Unfreedom: Russia, Europe, America

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

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Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Parachurch ministries, political causes, and entrepreneurial enterprises seduce good men away from giving their lives to the Church and her pastoral work. How do we attract young men to the work of the Church during the formative years of their lives? College professors successfully shape their students, often in perverse ways. Why do pastors lack a similar zeal? What must pastors do to identify and draw men into working with Christ's sheep?

As mentioned in the show, please check out the Psalm setting by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Jürgen Von Hagen and Tim Bayly return to the studio and do some follow-up work on the war in Ukraine. Then they cover numerous other geopolitical, economic, and societal issues:

Is America an empire

Letters from listeners

Milton Friedman and the welfare state

Immigration and skilled/unskilled labor

What is the value of human life?

Under the Third Reich, the United States barred Jews from immigrating here

Impact of American isolationism on the American economy

Trade regime

Changes in the relationship of Taiwanese and Chinese economies

War in Ukraine being closely watched by China

American support for Ukraine indirectly supports Taiwan

Russian culture and Stalin, Chinese culture and Chairman Mao, German culture and Hitler

Were Nazis Martians, or Germans?

East German identity and West German identity

Patriotism in Europe vs America

Love for Fatherland and Christian nationalism

Origin of right-wing (AFD) in Germany today

Oliver Cromwell and Christian nationalism

Don’t ever give any economic forecast

The US economic future

German infrastructure failing but no government wants to cut social welfare benefits

Russian demographics and Putin's aggression

American economy and growing wealth inequality

Murray’s “Coming Apart”; Belmont and Fishtown

Professors’ pay at American vs European universities

Professors’ pay at Christian colleges

Cryptocurrency

Choosing the church over the university

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Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church.

Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com.

Master of Divinity
Bachelor of Divinity
Certificate in Bible & Theology
Groundwork: The Victory of Christ & The Great Conversation

Intro and outro music is Psalm of the King, Psalm 21 by My Soul Among Lions.

Out of Our Minds audio, artwork, episode descriptions, and notes are property of New Geneva Academy and Warhorn Media, published with permission by Transistor, Inc.

Pastors are called by God to use everything at their disposal to point people to heaven. That means pastors have to lay it all out on the line for others. They have to go for the heart.

If you haven't read it already, please check out Abortion and the Church from Evangel Presbytery.