
It's time for the outdoor sector to talk about MONEY...
Explicit content warning
10/10/22 • 65 min
1 Listener
It's time to talk about money in the outdoor sector. I know there are individuals and groups having these conversations on a case-by-case level. We decided not to talk about this on the podcast until now because we didn’t want to be outing individual experiences with payment.
But in August, Matt Barr from the Looking Sideways podcast posted this:
And Matt and Soraya had a chat on Looking Sideways that spoke in part about money.
In this episode, I ask Matt more about the catalyst for posting that thread, and we pick apart the question itself. After our chat, you’ll hear some of the Looking Sideways podcast and then several talking heads.
Read Matt’s Blogs:
- Open Thread: is it ever OK for brands not to pay creatives or contributors fairly for their time and expertise?
- The Ethics of Paying Creatives and Contributors: Five Things We Learned
Listen to Soraya on the Looking Sideways Podcast:
Listen to our award-winning episode:
Find out more about the guests in this episode:
- Matt Barr from Looking Sideways
- Soraya Abdel-Hadi soraya.earth
- Ani (@ani_went_outside) from Outside Our Way
- Carlos Casas from Colour Up Bristol (@colourupbristol)
- Kathi Kamleitner (@watchmesee) from the Wild For Scotland podcast
- Steph Wetherell from Every Body Outdoors (@every_body_outdoors)
- Oge Ejizu (@ogsworld) from Black Girls Hike
- Sonny Peart (@runny.sonny) from Black Trail Runners (@blacktrailrunners)
- Frankie Dewar from The Purposeful Adventure Club (@purposefuladventureclub)
Tell us what you thought of this episode! Email [email protected].
Send a DM on Instagram or Twitter @OnTheOutsidePod, or send a voicenote via Whatsapp to 07883905336.
SUPPORT THE SHOW:
You can join the crew on Patreon. Money from Patreon is offered to the panellists for their time and expertise.
On The Outside is part of the Tremula Network, sharing unheard stories of adventure, nature and the outdoors. Find out more and listen to our other shows at tremula.network.
It's time to talk about money in the outdoor sector. I know there are individuals and groups having these conversations on a case-by-case level. We decided not to talk about this on the podcast until now because we didn’t want to be outing individual experiences with payment.
But in August, Matt Barr from the Looking Sideways podcast posted this:
And Matt and Soraya had a chat on Looking Sideways that spoke in part about money.
In this episode, I ask Matt more about the catalyst for posting that thread, and we pick apart the question itself. After our chat, you’ll hear some of the Looking Sideways podcast and then several talking heads.
Read Matt’s Blogs:
- Open Thread: is it ever OK for brands not to pay creatives or contributors fairly for their time and expertise?
- The Ethics of Paying Creatives and Contributors: Five Things We Learned
Listen to Soraya on the Looking Sideways Podcast:
Listen to our award-winning episode:
Find out more about the guests in this episode:
- Matt Barr from Looking Sideways
- Soraya Abdel-Hadi soraya.earth
- Ani (@ani_went_outside) from Outside Our Way
- Carlos Casas from Colour Up Bristol (@colourupbristol)
- Kathi Kamleitner (@watchmesee) from the Wild For Scotland podcast
- Steph Wetherell from Every Body Outdoors (@every_body_outdoors)
- Oge Ejizu (@ogsworld) from Black Girls Hike
- Sonny Peart (@runny.sonny) from Black Trail Runners (@blacktrailrunners)
- Frankie Dewar from The Purposeful Adventure Club (@purposefuladventureclub)
Tell us what you thought of this episode! Email [email protected].
Send a DM on Instagram or Twitter @OnTheOutsidePod, or send a voicenote via Whatsapp to 07883905336.
SUPPORT THE SHOW:
You can join the crew on Patreon. Money from Patreon is offered to the panellists for their time and expertise.
On The Outside is part of the Tremula Network, sharing unheard stories of adventure, nature and the outdoors. Find out more and listen to our other shows at tremula.network.
Previous Episode

BONUS: More thoughts on topless climbing
Following on from the conversation on topless climbing with Soraya and Carlos, we hear a few more thoughts on the subject:
- Frit Tam highlights aspects that may make topless climbers triggering.
- Frakie Dewar asks about trans and non-binary perspectives
- Ani Barber tells us her own experience as a new climber
Tell us what you thought of this episode! You can email [email protected] you can send a DM on Instagram or Twitter @OnTheOutsidePod, and you can now also send a voicenote or message via Whatsapp that number is 07883905336.
SUPPORT THE SHOW:
You can join the crew on Patreon to support the show financially. Current money from Patreon is offered to the panellists for their time and expertise. Sign up to the newsletter to keep up to date with outdoors news between episodes.
CREDITS for the episode:
Produced, hosted and edited by Francesca Turauskis
Artwork by Sophie Nolan
Music is Bassbeat by Alex Norton
On The Outside is part of the Tremula Network, sharing unheard stories of adventure, nature and the outdoors. Find out more and listen to our other shows at tremula.network.
Next Episode

UPDATE: Acknowledging that Rest Is Resistance
A short update from Fran to acknowledge the lack of activity on the podcast feed - and to acknowledge that that is okay too!
REST IS RESISTANCE:
Rest Is Resistance: A Manifesto by Tricia Hersey
On The Outside is part of the Tremula Network, sharing unheard stories of adventure, nature and the outdoors. Find out more and listen to our other shows at tremula.network.
If you like this episode you’ll love
Episode Comments
Generate a badge
Get a badge for your website that links back to this episode
<a href="https://goodpods.com/podcasts/on-the-outside-188478/its-time-for-the-outdoor-sector-to-talk-about-money-24204444"> <img src="https://storage.googleapis.com/goodpods-images-bucket/badges/generic-badge-1.svg" alt="listen to it's time for the outdoor sector to talk about money... on goodpods" style="width: 225px" /> </a>
Copy