
The Power of Protective and Compensatory Experiences
06/19/24 • 50 min
In this episode of "OK State of Mind," host Dee Harris is joined by Dr. Jennifer Hayes Grudeau and Dr. Amanda Sheffield Morris from Oklahoma State University, along with special guest Christine Marsh from Family & Children's Services.
Check our our previous conversation with Jennifer and Amanda in our episode titled "Moving Beyond Adverse Childhood Experiences: ACES and PACES."
This new conversation delves deeper into the critical role of protective and compensatory experiences (PACEs) as antidotes to adverse childhood experiences (ACEs). The guests discuss the profound impact of intergenerational trauma, the science behind resilience, and the importance of balanced parenting. They share insights from their books and research, emphasizing that it's never too late to build resilience and improve mental health through positive experiences. The episode underscores the transformative power of PACEs in fostering resilience and well-being in both children and adults.
You can hear more from Jennifer and Amanda on wholehearted.org or their website.
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In this episode of "OK State of Mind," host Dee Harris is joined by Dr. Jennifer Hayes Grudeau and Dr. Amanda Sheffield Morris from Oklahoma State University, along with special guest Christine Marsh from Family & Children's Services.
Check our our previous conversation with Jennifer and Amanda in our episode titled "Moving Beyond Adverse Childhood Experiences: ACES and PACES."
This new conversation delves deeper into the critical role of protective and compensatory experiences (PACEs) as antidotes to adverse childhood experiences (ACEs). The guests discuss the profound impact of intergenerational trauma, the science behind resilience, and the importance of balanced parenting. They share insights from their books and research, emphasizing that it's never too late to build resilience and improve mental health through positive experiences. The episode underscores the transformative power of PACEs in fostering resilience and well-being in both children and adults.
You can hear more from Jennifer and Amanda on wholehearted.org or their website.
Support and stay connected to us. First, be sure to hit that subscribe button wherever you're listening to us. Subscribing ensures you never miss an episode, and it's absolutely free. It also helps us continue bringing you quality content.
Consider leaving us a review. Your reviews not only make our day, but they also help others discover the podcast and join our community.
Share this episode with your friends, family, and anyone who might find it interesting. Word of mouth is a powerful way to grow our podcast family, and we truly appreciate your support.
We're always eager to hear your thoughts, ideas, and suggestions for future episodes. Visit www.okstateofmind.com for all of our episodes. You can also email us at [email protected] with any episode ideas or questions. We'd love to connect with you.
Thank you once again for accompanying us on the journey. Until next time!
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OK State of Mind - The Power of Protective and Compensatory Experiences
Transcript
Kids who have this in their life do better than kids who don't. It's never too late. We've been saying that for a long time, but now we can say it legitimately because we have real data to support it, that what people do now matters.
DeeWelcome to Ok, State of Mind. I'm your host, Dee Harris, and I'm thrilled to welcome back to the mics, Dr. Jennifer Hayes Grudeau, and dr. Amanda Sheffield morris. These
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