Baptism and the Real Meaning of Being Born Again
05/23/24 • 46 min
In our premiere episode, our host, Treen, revisits topics taught by the Evangelical Christian church with a blend of humor, storytelling, and role-playing.
Joined by public speaker, coach, and author Ruthie Lindsey, they delve into their past experiences of Evangelical baptism, spiritual deconstruction, and rebirth. Oh and “God” is there too, improvised and played by Los Angeles based comedian, Alen Kolenovic.
This episode touches on the origins of the word 'God', the impact of Christian religious upbringing and what it might actually mean to be “born again.” This hilarious conversation is full of engaging anecdotes and discussions, as this trinity examines themes of shadow work, self-acceptance and the evolving nature of what it means to be on the spiritual path.
To join us on this hilarious ride, follow us here as well as on Instagram @nxnpod for more goodies!
You can find Ruthie’s work on her website https://www.ruthielindsey.com/ and follow her on Instagram @ruthielindsey
You can follow Alen and his comedy on Instagram @alen_kolenovic
Join our naughty community by signing up for our mailing list. Go to https://www.treentreen.com / Naughty by Nature / wait for the pop up and give us your email address.
Produced by:
https://www.rainbowcreative.co
Thanks to our sponsor of this episode - VYBES! You have to check out their afternoon energy drink that won't keep you up at night. No jitters, no shakes, no crash. Use THIS LINK to apply a shopping cart discount of 12% off their Afternoon Energy drinks. Or you can type in code AFTERNOONENERGY at checkout to get 12% off.
00:00 Welcome to Naughty by Nature: Poking at Taboo with Humor and Role-Play
00:45 Diving into Baptism: A Candid Conversation with God
01:14 Introducing Ruthie Lindsay: From Tragedy to Transformation
02:54 Exploring Personal Journeys: From Christian Conformity to Deconstruction
13:29 The Impact of Community and Belonging on Personal Identity
18:27 Unpacking the Shadow: Accepting All Parts of Ourselves
20:26 Embracing Shadow Work and the Power of Love
21:59 The Journey Through Shame and Religion to Self-Acceptance
22:47 Exploring the Depths of Emotion and Trauma
25:09 Healing and Transformation: From Personal Struggle to Universal Connection
25:54 The Evolution of Belief: From Performative Faith to Authentic Connection with God
28:25 Navigating the Mystical Realm: Knowing the Divine
38:00 The Essence of Actually Being Born Again: Richard Rohr’s Order, Disorder, Reorder
42:36 Rituals, Baptism, and the Brave Journey of Deconstruction
44:00 Connecting with Ruthie Lindsay, Alen Kolenovic and Wrapping Up
In our premiere episode, our host, Treen, revisits topics taught by the Evangelical Christian church with a blend of humor, storytelling, and role-playing.
Joined by public speaker, coach, and author Ruthie Lindsey, they delve into their past experiences of Evangelical baptism, spiritual deconstruction, and rebirth. Oh and “God” is there too, improvised and played by Los Angeles based comedian, Alen Kolenovic.
This episode touches on the origins of the word 'God', the impact of Christian religious upbringing and what it might actually mean to be “born again.” This hilarious conversation is full of engaging anecdotes and discussions, as this trinity examines themes of shadow work, self-acceptance and the evolving nature of what it means to be on the spiritual path.
To join us on this hilarious ride, follow us here as well as on Instagram @nxnpod for more goodies!
You can find Ruthie’s work on her website https://www.ruthielindsey.com/ and follow her on Instagram @ruthielindsey
You can follow Alen and his comedy on Instagram @alen_kolenovic
Join our naughty community by signing up for our mailing list. Go to https://www.treentreen.com / Naughty by Nature / wait for the pop up and give us your email address.
Produced by:
https://www.rainbowcreative.co
Thanks to our sponsor of this episode - VYBES! You have to check out their afternoon energy drink that won't keep you up at night. No jitters, no shakes, no crash. Use THIS LINK to apply a shopping cart discount of 12% off their Afternoon Energy drinks. Or you can type in code AFTERNOONENERGY at checkout to get 12% off.
00:00 Welcome to Naughty by Nature: Poking at Taboo with Humor and Role-Play
00:45 Diving into Baptism: A Candid Conversation with God
01:14 Introducing Ruthie Lindsay: From Tragedy to Transformation
02:54 Exploring Personal Journeys: From Christian Conformity to Deconstruction
13:29 The Impact of Community and Belonging on Personal Identity
18:27 Unpacking the Shadow: Accepting All Parts of Ourselves
20:26 Embracing Shadow Work and the Power of Love
21:59 The Journey Through Shame and Religion to Self-Acceptance
22:47 Exploring the Depths of Emotion and Trauma
25:09 Healing and Transformation: From Personal Struggle to Universal Connection
25:54 The Evolution of Belief: From Performative Faith to Authentic Connection with God
28:25 Navigating the Mystical Realm: Knowing the Divine
38:00 The Essence of Actually Being Born Again: Richard Rohr’s Order, Disorder, Reorder
42:36 Rituals, Baptism, and the Brave Journey of Deconstruction
44:00 Connecting with Ruthie Lindsay, Alen Kolenovic and Wrapping Up
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The Naughty by Nature Prologue
Naughty by Nature is a show about finding a god that accepts all of you.
Meet Treen, filmmaker, performer, former-Evangelical Christian and the woman behind this podcast. She is on a mission to find the humor and wisdom in all our spiritual journeys, whether we’re being born again or deconstructing from toxic religious relationships.
In this prologue, Treen shares her journey of self-discovery and healing, revealing experiences with various therapeutic practices as well as her unique spiritual exploration, which includes a dramatic conversion to Evangelical Christianity.
The Naughty by Nature podcast explores themes of spirituality, self-expression and personal growth. This is our invitation to all who feel constrained by societal norms and religious dogma to join us in open, vulnerable conversations about finding “god” and finding oneself.
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How to be a Good Wife and Fail
In episode two of the Naughty by Nature podcast, our host Treen dives into the “hot topic” of Christian marriage with special guest Audrey Assad.
They unpack what they were taught to believe about marriage growing up, why they got married, the pressures and expectations they faced as former Christian wives, and what Christian marriage was actually like - sex and all.
Segments include humorous interactions with “God”, played this time by comedians Rachel Wenitsky and David Sidorov, a married couple in real life.
This group explores the evolution of marriage and partnership in both Christian and secular contexts. Audrey and Treen share vulnerable insights about what wasn’t working in their marriages, what they learned from the experience, and how they found lives after divorce that embrace all parts of them.
To join us on this hilarious ride, follow us here as well as on Instagram @nxnpod for more goodies!
You can listen to Audrey’s music on Spotify at Audrey Assad and follow her on Instagram @audreyassad.
You can find Rachel and David on Instagram @rachelwenitsky, @theotherdavidsidorov or at the dog park with their pup Bagel.
Join our naughty community by signing up for our mailing list. Go to https://www.treentreen.com / Naughty by Nature / wait for the pop up and give us your email address.
Produced by:
https://www.rainbowcreative.co
Thanks to our sponsor of this episode - VYBES! You have to check out their afternoon energy drink that won't keep you up at night. No jitters, no shakes, no crash. Use THIS LINK (https://idrinkvybes.com/discount/AFTERNOONENERGY?redirect=%2Fcollections%2Fenergy) to apply a shopping cart discount of 12% off their Afternoon Energy drinks. Or you can type in code AFTERNOONENERGY at checkout to get 12% off.
00:00 Welcome to Naughty by Nature: Unpacking Religious Baggage with Humor
00:17 Meet God: A Divine Comedic Duo
01:52 Introducing Audrey Assad
03:35 Vybes Check and Personal Stories
04:06 Religious Upbringing, Programmed to be a Good Wife
08:35 Sex in Christian Marriage and Deconstruction
17:24 Proposal Stories and Reflections
20:56 The Big Bang Proposal
22:05 Lived Experience in Christian Marriage
24:56 A Christian Artist House in Brooklyn
31:20 Anger and its Role in Self-Discovery
34:29 Learnings from Christian Marriage and Divorce
39:46 Current Relationship with God and Spirituality
44:23 Outro and Where to Find Us
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