Humanism, With or Without God, feat. Eric Adler | Episode LXXIV
08/15/24 • 100 min
For the first time, a collection of Irving Babbitt's and Paul Elmer More's correspondence has been published. Eric Adler, the editor of the collection (titled "Humanistic Letters") joins the show to discuss the collection, New Humanism, and the question that caused more controversy between Babbitt and More than anything else: Do humanists need to believe in God?
Eric Adler's Humanistic Letters: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780826222909
Eric Adler's The Battle of the Classics: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780197680810
Irving Babbitt's Literature and the American College: https://amzn.to/3YIP0Ml
New Humanists episode Can Humanism Replace Christianity? https://newhumanists.buzzsprout.com/1791279/12494774-can-humanism-replace-christianity-episode-xliv
Justin Garrison and Ryan Holston's The Historical Mind: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9781438478432
Ryan Holston's Irving Babbitt and Christianity: A Response to T.S. Eliot: https://www.academia.edu/43227260/Irving_Babbitt_and_Christianity_A_Response_to_T_S_Eliot
C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780060652944
Norman Foerster's Humanism and America: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.88302/page/n5/mode/2up
Luke Sheahan's The Intellectual Kinship of Irving Babbitt and C.S.Lewis: https://www.pdcnet.org/humanitas/content/humanitas_2016_0029_0001_0005_0042
C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780060652920
Paul Elmer More's The Greek Tradition: https://amzn.to/4dxbXGQ
New Humanists is brought to you by the Ancient Language Institute: https://ancientlanguage.com/
Links may have referral codes, which earn us a commission at no additional cost to you. We encourage you, when possible, to use Bookshop.org for your book purchases, an online bookstore which supports local bookstores.
Music: Save Us Now by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
For the first time, a collection of Irving Babbitt's and Paul Elmer More's correspondence has been published. Eric Adler, the editor of the collection (titled "Humanistic Letters") joins the show to discuss the collection, New Humanism, and the question that caused more controversy between Babbitt and More than anything else: Do humanists need to believe in God?
Eric Adler's Humanistic Letters: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780826222909
Eric Adler's The Battle of the Classics: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780197680810
Irving Babbitt's Literature and the American College: https://amzn.to/3YIP0Ml
New Humanists episode Can Humanism Replace Christianity? https://newhumanists.buzzsprout.com/1791279/12494774-can-humanism-replace-christianity-episode-xliv
Justin Garrison and Ryan Holston's The Historical Mind: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9781438478432
Ryan Holston's Irving Babbitt and Christianity: A Response to T.S. Eliot: https://www.academia.edu/43227260/Irving_Babbitt_and_Christianity_A_Response_to_T_S_Eliot
C.S. Lewis's The Abolition of Man: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780060652944
Norman Foerster's Humanism and America: https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.88302/page/n5/mode/2up
Luke Sheahan's The Intellectual Kinship of Irving Babbitt and C.S.Lewis: https://www.pdcnet.org/humanitas/content/humanitas_2016_0029_0001_0005_0042
C.S. Lewis's Mere Christianity: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780060652920
Paul Elmer More's The Greek Tradition: https://amzn.to/4dxbXGQ
New Humanists is brought to you by the Ancient Language Institute: https://ancientlanguage.com/
Links may have referral codes, which earn us a commission at no additional cost to you. We encourage you, when possible, to use Bookshop.org for your book purchases, an online bookstore which supports local bookstores.
Music: Save Us Now by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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Medieval Monastic Humanism | Episode LXXIII
Love for Cicero, attention to rhetorical form, use of pagan wisdom for political thought - these are all hallmarks of the Renaissance humanists. But not their invention. In fact, you find the same things among some medieval thinkers. Jonathan and Ryan read and discuss selections from the Policraticus and the Metalogicon, two works by the 12th century bishop of Chartres, John of Salisbury, who was an exemplar of this medieval brand of humanism.
Richard M. Gamble's The Great Tradition: https://amzn.to/3Q4lRnO
Homer's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780374529055
Homer's Odyssey: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780374525743
Cicero's Pro Archia Poeta: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780674991743
New Humanists episode on Leonardo Bruni: https://newhumanists.buzzsprout.com/1791279/14460440-mediocrity-versus-glory-in-the-renaissance-episode-lxii
S.A. Dance's Authentic Grammar in Classical Schools: https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2024/05/authentic-grammar-in-classical-schools
New Humanists is brought to you by the Ancient Language Institute: https://ancientlanguage.com/
Links may have referral codes, which earn us a commission at no additional cost to you. We encourage you, when possible, to use Bookshop.org for your book purchases, an online bookstore which supports local bookstores.
Music: Save Us Now by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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The Homer-Industrial Complex | Episode LXXV
The Iliad was more popular than the Odyssey beginning in ancient times, and continued to be all the way up to World War One. Then, something changed. Now the Odyssey leaves the Iliad in the dust in terms of which poem gets assigned more frequently in school, in book sales, and simply in the stated preference of readers. What happened? Ryan and Jonathan read Edward Luttwak's essay, Homer Inc., about the thriving industry of Homer translations, the ancient redactors of Homer, the historicity of the Trojan War, and one of the perennial questions any humanist must answer - and to which Luttwak gives his own idiosyncratic response: Why does Homer matter?
Edward Luttwak's Homer Inc.: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v34/n04/edward-luttwak/homer-inc
NH episode on Melanchthon and Homer: https://newhumanists.buzzsprout.com/1791279/13181921-return-of-the-old-gods-in-germany-episode-lii
NH episode on Weil and Homer: https://newhumanists.buzzsprout.com/1791279/10429309-the-iliad-or-the-poem-of-force-episode-xxi
NH episode on Nietzsche and Homer: https://newhumanists.buzzsprout.com/1791279/13949908-nietzsche-homer-and-cruelty-episode-lvi
Stephen Mitchell's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9781439163382
Robert Fagles's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780140275360
Emily Wilson's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9781324001805
Richmond Lattimore's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780226470498
Peter Green's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780520281431
Robert Fitzgerald's Iliad: https://bookshop.org/a/25626/9780374529055
New Humanists is brought to you by the Ancient Language Institute: https://ancientlanguage.com/
Links may have referral codes, which earn us a commission at no additional cost to you. We encourage you, when possible, to use Bookshop.org for your book purchases, an online bookstore which supports local bookstores.
Music: Save Us Now by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com
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