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Neurodiversity Podcast

Neurodiversity Podcast

Emily Kircher-Morris

The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.
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Goodpods has curated a list of the 10 best Neurodiversity Podcast episodes, ranked by the number of listens and likes each episode have garnered from our listeners. If you are listening to Neurodiversity Podcast for the first time, there's no better place to start than with one of these standout episodes. If you are a fan of the show, vote for your favorite Neurodiversity Podcast episode by adding your comments to the episode page.

Neurodiversity Podcast - Newly Diagnosed at Age Forty-Something
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04/06/23 • 38 min

It’s common today for people to be diagnosed as neurodivergent as an adult, having survived childhood without the recognition or support that may have come along with a diagnosis. Our guest lived that experience. Carolyn Kiel is the host of the Beyond 6 Seconds podcast, and she joins Emily to talk about her life as an autistic woman. What are the hurdles and barriers to getting an autism diagnosis? Does a diagnosis even matter once you’re an adult? How can looking back at your childhood from that new perspective change the way you think about the world? It’s episode 166, and it’s part of our special series during April, Autism Acceptance Month.

This episode is brought to you by SPACE - Supportive Parenting for Anxious Childhood Emotions. To register for SPACE, submit your information through this portal. For more details go to Neurodiversity University.

Join the Neurodiversity Podcast Advocacy and Support Group on Facebook!

ABOUT THE GUEST

Carolyn Kiel is an experienced instructional designer of employee training programs. On her award-winning podcast, Beyond 6 Seconds, she features neurodivergent entrepreneurs, creatives and advocates who shatter misconceptions, break stigma, and showcase the diversity of the neurodivergent community. Carolyn has a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Vassar College and a Master of Arts in Industrial/Organizational Psychology from Fairleigh Dickinson University.

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Neurodiversity Podcast - Autism + ADHD = AuDHD

Autism + ADHD = AuDHD

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05/23/24 • 39 min

There’s a new term circulating in the neurodiversity community, AuDHD. Today, Emily Kircher-Morris is talking with Mattia Maurée, a neurodivergent individual with both ADHD and autism. They talk about how the two diagnoses blend together, one side desiring routine and sameness, while the other seeks novelty and change. They also discuss the challenges of receiving accurate diagnoses, the impact of stigma on neurodivergent individuals, how career pathways are affected, Mattia’s personal experiences of being misunderstood and judged, and the importance of community. The conversation covers many other subjects as well, and it’s all part of episode 226.

Takeaways

  • ADHD and autism can coexist in individuals, with one part of them desiring routine and sameness while the other seeks novelty and change.
  • Receiving accurate diagnoses for neurodivergent individuals can be challenging, as the symptoms of different conditions can overlap and mask each other.
  • Stigma and misunderstandings surrounding neurodivergent individuals are pervasive and can lead to discrimination and mistreatment.
  • Being twice exceptional, with both ADHD and autism, can result in unique challenges and experiences, including being misunderstood and judged by others.
  • When Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is a factor, it can lead to difficulties in regulating the nervous system, and can have a significant impact on daily life.
  • Finding a career that aligns with one's interests and strengths is crucial for neurodivergent individuals.
  • Community support and understanding are essential for neurodivergent individuals to thrive and feel deeply understood.

Click here to go to our Facebook post, where you can nominate a colleague (or yourself) for a free membership to the Neurodiversity University Educator Hub!

Mattia Maurée is an AuDHD coach and host of the AuDHD Flourishing Podcast. Creative outlets in music and the arts became Mattia's refuge through a childhood full of unpredictability. Confronting trauma sparked an interest in the topic, and it led to their Autism diagnosis in their 30’s, as well as finding somatic neurodivergent-friendly methods of working through depression and anxiety. They now share their experiences to give hope to queer, trans, and neurodivergent youth and young adults through coaching, and embrace the philosophy of “feel better first.”

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Neurodiversity Podcast - Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria with Dr. Bill Dodson (Part 2)
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02/05/25 • 30 min

In the second of our powerful two-part conversation, Emily Kircher-Morris and Dr. William Dodson discuss the complexities of ADHD, emotional dysregulation and its subset, and Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria (RSD). He explains how RSD can manifest in ADHDers, the impact of childhood experiences, and the importance of understanding and treating these conditions. There is a need for updated diagnostic criteria and effective treatment strategies, including medication and supportive environments. They dig into the complexities of ADHD, including management strategies, and the importance of understanding the overlap between social anxiety and mood disorders.

TAKEAWAYS

  • Emotional dysregulation is often overlooked in ADHD diagnoses.
  • RSD is a specific condition affecting many with ADHD.
  • The emotional pain from RSD can be both emotional and physical, and can lead to significant life impairments.
  • Childhood experiences can exacerbate RSD but are not the sole cause.
  • Medication can be effective in managing emotional dysregulation.
  • Understanding RSD is essential for clinicians working with ADHD patients.
  • Preventative strategies are key in managing RSD episodes.
  • Sleep, nutrition, structure, and routine play vital roles in emotional regulation.
  • Social anxiety and rejection sensitivity can coexist but are distinct.

The research project Emily mentions in her closing thoughts.

The sign-up window is open for a limited time, for the Neurodiversity University Educator Hub! Join a community of like-minded teachers, administrators, and advocates who are passionate about supporting neurodivergent kids. It's a welcoming space to share ideas that will help make your classrooms and school districts better places for all students. The Educator Hub is available via an app for your smartphone, or online through a browser. Click and join us.

Dr. Bill Dodson is a board-certified adult psychiatrist who has specialized in adults with Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder for the last 27 years.

In recognition of his clinical contributions to the field of ADHD he was named a Life Fellow of the APA in 2012. He was the 2006 recipient of the national Maxwell J. Schleifer Award for Distinguished Service to Persons with Disabilities.

His contributions to the field of ADHD include:

  • The only currently available methodology for the fine-tuning of ADHD medications.
  • The concept of Rejection Sensitivity Dysphoria and its treatment with medications.
  • The first non-behavioral theory of what ADHD is and how it can be treated successfully with an emphasis on what goes right rather than what goes wrong.

Dr. Dodson has a book for clinicians, patients, and parents on the practice of ADHD medicine coming out at the end of 2025.

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On episode 245, Emily talks with Dr. Brandi Walker, a retired Army clinical psychologist, about her experience as a psychologist in the military and the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals. They talk about her journey of transitioning from a fuel handler to a psychologist, and when and how she developed an interest in ADHD. There are policies and limitations for recruits with ADHD or autism, and they talk about the implications, along with the waiver process that’s involved. Dr. Walker talks about the experiences of neurodivergent military members, and they have solid advice for young neurodivergent individuals considering joining the military.

Takeaways

  • Being a psychologist in the military is a rewarding experience but also comes with challenges due to the shortage of providers and the responsibility of caring for soldiers while also being a soldier.
  • Joining the military with a diagnosis of ADHD or autism requires meeting specific criteria and may involve the need for waivers depending on the severity of symptoms and the individual's treatment history.
  • Neurodivergent individuals in the military often find themselves masking their symptoms, but the structured and direct communication style of the military can also be beneficial for some individuals.
  • Military members who are parents of neurodivergent children face additional challenges due to frequent moves and the lack of a strong support system, but building routines, seeking support, and leveraging strengths can help create a supportive environment for the child.
  • Young neurodivergent individuals considering joining the military should prioritize self-care, have open conversations with their providers, and explore alternative paths if medication is necessary.

Pre-order Emily’s new book with Amanda Morin, Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted & Supported now! Release is set for January.

Dr. Brandi Walker is a retired Army Clinical Psychologist and faculty member at Womack Army Medical Center at Fort Bragg, NC. She also coaches military leaders and their teams in an effort to target the reduction of mental health challenges for servicemen and women. Dr. Walker maintains her earnest desire to further what is known about ADHD, and continues to provide therapeutic expertise and researched-informed support to families and individuals that are impacted.

She has spent the last seven years working with various hospitals, clinics, and schools conducting research on children with ADHD, family and sleep variables, and environmental factors. She has initiated the Prince George’s County (Maryland) CHADD Chapter and CHADD’s Southern Regional Support Center, and serves as Chair Past of the Diversity in the Military Committee of the American Psychological Association's Society of Military Psychology (Division 19). She is a Howard University and University of Maryland alumna, and runs a private consulting practice.

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Neurodiversity Podcast - The Tricky Transition From High School to Higher Ed
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01/18/24 • 34 min

Entering college can be a pivotal and challenging journey, especially for neurodivergent individuals. On episode 208, we look at what happens when traditional paths don't align with diverse needs. From systemic shifts in college admissions to the importance of soft skills beyond academics, we're talking about what it takes to thrive in higher education. Joining us is Elizabeth West, CEO of EWC College Consulting, who brings a wealth of knowledge on guiding neurodivergent students through their college journey.

Registration for the Neurodiversity University Educator Hub is now open, and only for a limited time! If you’re a teacher, you definitely need to check into joining this community of educators from around the world, who are learning and sharing ways to embrace neurodiversity in the classroom. It’s hosted and moderated by Emily Kircher-Morris, and features expert guests, roundtable forums, continuing education material and much more. The deadline to register is soon, so sign up and join us!

Elizabeth West is the CEO of EWC College Consulting. She found her passion working in higher education, helping students become successful through various positions in college admissions for 10 years. After leaving admissions, Elizabeth had the opportunity to work with students for an additional 15 years, teaching them how to become transfer students. Originally from upstate New York, Ms. West moved to North Carolina after graduating from the State University of New York at Potsdam.

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Neurodiversity Podcast - Mentoring Tweens Through Transitions
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08/25/22 • 32 min

As parents and educators prepare for the start of the new school year, middle schools everywhere are welcoming a new crop of excited, nervous, and sometimes unprepared kids. On episode 136 we talk about the middle school transition, and the changes parents can expect to see as their kids adapt to their new surroundings. Guest Phyllis Fagell is the author of Middle School Matters, and she joins us with ideas and advice. (This conversation is also featured in episode 38.)

Here’s the link to pre-order Strategies for Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students for independent study. Anyone can take the course, and if you register now you’ll receive 20% off the tuition.

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Phyllis Fagell is a Licensed Clinical Professional Counselor, Certified Professional School Counselor and journalist. She has worked in both public and private schools with students in grades K-12, focusing on middle school for the last several years. She currently works full time as the school counselor for Sheridan School in Washington, D.C. Sheridan School has been named a 2017 National School of Character. Phyllis also provides therapy to children, teens and adults in private practice at the Chrysalis Group, Inc.

As a journalist, Phyllis writes regular columns for The Washington Post on counseling, parenting and education. She writes a weekly advice column for PDK, Intl. for educators, and she blogs for a number of highly-respected national education associations and counseling publications, including AMLE (Association of Middle Level Educators) and Character.org. Her articles often are syndicated by Bloomberg, and they also are reprinted by newspapers throughout the world.

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You can support the podcast at www.patreon.com/neurodiversity. The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

Thank you for caring about neurodivergent people.

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Neurodiversity Podcast - Challenging the Status Quo in the Classroom and Beyond
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02/15/24 • 44 min

On episode 212, Emily Kircher-Morris and Jess Lahey discuss the importance of understanding and supporting neurodivergent students. Jess highlights the need for teachers to question traditional teaching methods and adapt their practices to meet the diverse needs of their students. They talk about the value of formative assessments, peer-to-peer teaching, and creating an inclusive learning environment. They also explore the overlap between substance abuse and learning differences, emphasizing the importance of early intervention and support. They discuss the need for teachers to gradually release responsibility to students, and empower them to advocate for themselves. Open-minded, reflective, and responsive classrooms best serve the individual needs of students.

Takeaways:

  • Question traditional teaching methods and adapt practices to meet the diverse needs of students.
  • Use formative assessments to gauge student understanding and provide targeted support.
  • Create an inclusive learning environment that values peer-to-peer teaching and individual learning styles.
  • Recognize the overlap between substance abuse and learning differences, and provide early intervention and support.
  • Gradually release responsibility to students and empower them to advocate for themselves.

This episode is brought to you by the Council for Exceptional Children, dedicated to high-quality education that is inclusive and equitable for individuals with disabilities and/or gifts and talents. Attend their Annual Convention & Expo, March 13-16, 2024 in San Antonio, Texas. Register now at cecconvention.org/, and if you’re a school principal, receive free registration by using the code 24CEC100.

If you see value in rethinking education and building a stronger classroom, consider joining the Neurodiversity University Educator Hub! It’s a group built for educators, and we’ll open registration again soon! Sign up to be alerted, and join us for the learning, sharing, and fun!

Jessica Lahey is the author of the New York Times bestselling book, The Gift of Failure: How the Best Parents Learn to Let Go So Their Children Can Succeed, and The Addiction Inoculation: Raising Healthy Kids in a Culture of Dependence. Over twenty years, Jess has taught every grade from sixth to twelfth in both public and private schools, and has written about education, parenting, and child welfare for The Washington Post and The Atlantic, and her biweekly column, The Parent Teacher Conference, ran for three years at the New York Times.

She also designed and wrote the educational curriculum for Amazon Kids’ award-winning animated series The Stinky and Dirty Show, and was a 2019 Pushcart Prize nominee. She co-hosts the #AmWriting podcast from her empty nest in Vermont.

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The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

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Neurodiversity Podcast - Ask Me Anything #8 with Emily Kircher-Morris
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04/04/24 • 23 min

In this episode of the Neurodiversity Podcast, Emily Kircher-Morris answers questions submitted by members of the Neurodiversity Podcast Advocacy and Support Group on Facebook. The questions cover a range of topics including listening to the podcast with children, supporting processing speed issues, managing low self-esteem, diagnosing ADHD in older age, the overlap between cognitive giftedness and autism, exploring masking, and managing chores and responsibilities for individuals with a PDA profile. The episode provides insights, strategies, and resources for parents and individuals navigating neurodiversity.

To submit questions for our next AMA, join the Neurodiversity Podcast Advocacy & Support Group on Facebook!

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Most of us have at least some rejection sensitivity, but with neurodivergent people it’s often magnified. Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Brendan Mahan, an ADHD and executive function consultant, about how to reduce or overcome rejection sensitivity. This is an episode everyone can benefit from, and don’t forget to check out Brendan’s podcast, ADHD Essentials.

This conversation is one of the most popular of 2021. For guest info and more, visit the episode 83 page at www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com.

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Neurodiversity Podcast - Challenging What We Know About Autism and PDA
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10/17/24 • 40 min

Dr. Donna Henderson joins Emily Kircher-Morris to talk about the changes in the assessment process for autism, the importance of empowering therapists to diagnose autism, and the need for equity in masking. Their conversation also explores the double empathy problem and the challenges of balancing unmasking with the needs of neurodiverse individuals in educational settings. They also discuss the PDA profile and its place within the autism spectrum. That’s all waiting for you on episode 246. This is a reprise of an earlier chat.

Takeaways

  • The assessment process for autism is evolving, with a shift towards understanding subjective experience rather than relying solely on test scores.
  • Therapists are adapting by relying less on formal tests and more on interview skills and understanding inner subjective experiences.
  • Empowering therapists to diagnose autism is important for identifying and supporting individuals who may have been missed in the past.
  • Masking and camouflaging are complex behaviors that can have both benefits and drawbacks, and it is important to find a balance that respects individual needs and promotes equity. Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is not simply about avoiding demands, but rather an overriding biological drive for autonomy.
  • Misdiagnosis and labeling are common for PDAers, leading to potential negative consequences, especially for minority boys.
  • Understanding the core features of PDA, such as difficulty coping with demands, a wide variety of coping mechanisms, and challenges with social hierarchy, is crucial for accurate diagnosis and support.

For details about our courses for teaching twice-exceptional learners, click here.

Dr. Donna Henderson has been a clinical neuropsychologist for over 30 years. She is passionate about identifying and supporting autistic individuals, particularly those who camouflage, and she is co-author (with Drs. Sarah Wayland and Jamell White) of two books: Is This Autism? A Guide For Clinicians and Everyone Else and Is This Autism? A Companion Guide For Diagnosing. Dr. Henderson provides neuropsychological evaluations and consultations for children, adolescents, and adults who would like to understand themselves better. She is a sought-after lecturer on the less obvious presentations of autism, autistic girls and women, PDA, and on parenting children with complex profiles. She also provides case consultations and neurodiversity-affirmative training for other healthcare professionals.

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How many episodes does Neurodiversity Podcast have?

Neurodiversity Podcast currently has 274 episodes available.

What topics does Neurodiversity Podcast cover?

The podcast is about Health & Fitness, Parenting, Kids & Family, Psychology, Mental Health, Podcasts and Neurodiversity.

What is the most popular episode on Neurodiversity Podcast?

The episode title 'Newly Diagnosed at Age Forty-Something' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Neurodiversity Podcast?

The average episode length on Neurodiversity Podcast is 34 minutes.

How often are episodes of Neurodiversity Podcast released?

Episodes of Neurodiversity Podcast are typically released every 7 days, 16 hours.

When was the first episode of Neurodiversity Podcast?

The first episode of Neurodiversity Podcast was released on Jan 21, 2018.

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