
The End of Scaling?
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11/19/24 • 67 min
Multiple news outlets, including The Information, Bloomberg, and Reuters [see sources] are reporting an "end of scaling" for the current AI paradigm. In this episode we look into these articles, as well as a wide variety of economic forecasting, empirical analysis, and technical papers to understand the validity, and impact of these reports. We also use this as an opportunity to contextualize the realized versus promised fruits of "AI".
- (00:23) - Hot off the press
- (01:49) - The end of scaling
- (10:50) - "Useful tools" and "agentic" "AI"
- (17:19) - The end of quantization
- (25:18) - Hedging
- (29:41) - The end of upwards mobility
- (33:12) - How to grow an economy
- (38:14) - Transformative & disruptive tech
- (49:19) - Finding the meaning
- (56:14) - Bursting AI bubble and Trump
- (01:00:58) - The muck
- The Information article - OpenAI Shifts Strategy as Rate of ‘GPT’ AI Improvements Slows
- Bloomberg [article] - OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More Advanced AI
- Reuters article - OpenAI and others seek new path to smarter AI as current methods hit limitations
- Paper on the end of quantization - Scaling Laws for Precision
- Tim Dettmers Tweet on "Scaling Laws for Precision"
Empirical Analysis
- WU Vienna paper - Unslicing the pie: AI innovation and the labor share in European regions
- IMF paper - The Labor Market Impact of Artificial Intelligence: Evidence from US Regions
- NBER paper - Automation, Career Values, and Political Preferences
- Pew Research Center report - Which U.S. Workers Are More Exposed to AI on Their Jobs?
Forecasting
- NBER/Acemoglu paper - The Simple Macroeconomics of AI
- NBER/Acemoglu paper - Harms of AI
- IMF report - Gen-AI: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Work
- Submission to Open Philanthropy AI Worldviews Contest - Transformative AGI by 2043 is <1% likely
Externalities and the Bursting Bubble
- NBER paper - Bubbles, Rational Expectations and Financial Markets
- Clayton Christensen lecture capture - Clayton Christensen: Disruptive innovation
- The New Republic article - The “Godfather of AI” Predicted I Wouldn’t Have a Job. He Was Wrong.
- Latent Space article - $2 H100s: How the GPU Rental Bubble Burst
On Productization
- Palantir press release on introduction of Claude to US security and defense
- Ars Technica article - Claude AI to process secret government data through new Palantir deal
- OpenAI press release on partnering with Condé Nast
- Candid Technology article - Shutterstock and Getty partner with OpenAI and BRIA
- E2B
- Stripe agents
- Robopair
O...
Multiple news outlets, including The Information, Bloomberg, and Reuters [see sources] are reporting an "end of scaling" for the current AI paradigm. In this episode we look into these articles, as well as a wide variety of economic forecasting, empirical analysis, and technical papers to understand the validity, and impact of these reports. We also use this as an opportunity to contextualize the realized versus promised fruits of "AI".
- (00:23) - Hot off the press
- (01:49) - The end of scaling
- (10:50) - "Useful tools" and "agentic" "AI"
- (17:19) - The end of quantization
- (25:18) - Hedging
- (29:41) - The end of upwards mobility
- (33:12) - How to grow an economy
- (38:14) - Transformative & disruptive tech
- (49:19) - Finding the meaning
- (56:14) - Bursting AI bubble and Trump
- (01:00:58) - The muck
- The Information article - OpenAI Shifts Strategy as Rate of ‘GPT’ AI Improvements Slows
- Bloomberg [article] - OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More Advanced AI
- Reuters article - OpenAI and others seek new path to smarter AI as current methods hit limitations
- Paper on the end of quantization - Scaling Laws for Precision
- Tim Dettmers Tweet on "Scaling Laws for Precision"
Empirical Analysis
- WU Vienna paper - Unslicing the pie: AI innovation and the labor share in European regions
- IMF paper - The Labor Market Impact of Artificial Intelligence: Evidence from US Regions
- NBER paper - Automation, Career Values, and Political Preferences
- Pew Research Center report - Which U.S. Workers Are More Exposed to AI on Their Jobs?
Forecasting
- NBER/Acemoglu paper - The Simple Macroeconomics of AI
- NBER/Acemoglu paper - Harms of AI
- IMF report - Gen-AI: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Work
- Submission to Open Philanthropy AI Worldviews Contest - Transformative AGI by 2043 is <1% likely
Externalities and the Bursting Bubble
- NBER paper - Bubbles, Rational Expectations and Financial Markets
- Clayton Christensen lecture capture - Clayton Christensen: Disruptive innovation
- The New Republic article - The “Godfather of AI” Predicted I Wouldn’t Have a Job. He Was Wrong.
- Latent Space article - $2 H100s: How the GPU Rental Bubble Burst
On Productization
- Palantir press release on introduction of Claude to US security and defense
- Ars Technica article - Claude AI to process secret government data through new Palantir deal
- OpenAI press release on partnering with Condé Nast
- Candid Technology article - Shutterstock and Getty partner with OpenAI and BRIA
- E2B
- Stripe agents
- Robopair
O...
Previous Episode

US National Security Memorandum on AI, Oct 2024
October 2024 saw a National Security Memorandum and US framework for using AI in national security contexts. We go through the content so you don't have to, pull out the important bits, and summarize our main takeaways.
- (00:48) - The memorandum
- (06:28) - What the press is saying
- (10:39) - What's in the text
- (13:48) - Potential harms
- (17:32) - Miscellaneous notable stuff
- (31:11) - What's the US governments take on AI?
- (45:45) - The civil side - comments on reporting
- (49:31) - The commenters
- (01:07:33) - Our final hero
- (01:10:46) - The muck
Links
- United States National Security Memorandum on AI
- Fact Sheet on the National Security Memorandum
- Framework to Advance AI Governance and Risk Management in National Security
Related Media
- CAIS Newsletter - AI Safety Newsletter #43
- NIST report - Artificial Intelligence Risk Management Framework: Generative Artificial Intelligence Profile
- ACLU press release - ACLU Warns that Biden-Harris Administration Rules on AI in National Security Lack Key Protections
- Wikipedia article - Presidential Memorandum
- Reuters article - White House presses gov't AI use with eye on security, guardrails
- Forbes article - America’s AI Security Strategy Acknowledges There’s No Stopping AI
- DefenseScoop article - New White House directive prods DOD, intelligence agencies to move faster adopting AI capabilities
- NYTimes article - Biden Administration Outlines Government ‘Guardrails’ for A.I. Tools
- Forbes article - 5 Things To Know About The New National Security Memorandum On AI – And What ChatGPT Thinks
- Federal News Network interview - A look inside the latest White House artificial intelligence memo
- Govtech article - Reactions Mostly Positive to National Security AI Memo
- The Information article - Biden Memo Encourages Military Use of AI
Other Sources
- Physical Intelligence press release - π0: Our First Generalist Policy
- OpenAI press release - Introducing ChatGPT Search
- WhoPoo App!!
Next Episode

How to Safely Handle Your AGI
While on the campaign trail, Trump made claims about repealing Biden's Executive Order on AI, but what will actually be changed when he gets into office? We take this opportunity to examine policies being discussed or implemented by leading governments around the world.
- (00:00) - Intro
- (00:29) - Hot off the press
- (02:59) - Repealing the AI executive order?
- (11:16) - "Manhattan" for AI
- (24:33) - EU
- (30:47) - UK
- (39:27) - Bengio
- (44:39) - Comparing EU/UK to USA
- (45:23) - China
- (51:12) - Taxes
- (55:29) - The muck
Links
- SFChronicle article - US gathers allies to talk AI safety as Trump's vow to undo Biden's AI policy overshadows their work
- Trump's Executive Order on AI (the AI governance executive order at home)
- Biden's Executive Order on AI
- Congressional report brief which advises a "Manhattan Project for AI"
Non-USA
- CAIRNE resource collection on CERN for AI
- UK Frontier AI Taskforce report (2023)
- International interim report (2024)
- Bengio's paper - AI and Catastrophic Risk
- Davidad's Safeguarded AI program at ARIA
- MIT Technology Review article - Four things to know about China’s new AI rules in 2024
- GovInsider article - Australia’s national policy for ethical use of AI starts to take shape
- Future of Privacy forum article - The African Union’s Continental AI Strategy: Data Protection and Governance Laws Set to Play a Key Role in AI Regulation
Taxes
- Macroeconomic Dynamics paper - Automation, Stagnation, and the Implications of a Robot Tax
- CESifo paper - AI, Automation, and Taxation
- GavTax article - Taxation of Artificial Intelligence and Automation
Perplexity Pages
- CERN for AI page
- China's AI policy page
- Singapore's AI policy page
- AI policy in Africa, India, Australia page
Other Sources
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