
Open Source AI and 2024 Nobel Prizes
10/16/24 • 61 min
The Open Source AI Definition is out after years of drafting, will it reestablish brand meaning for the “Open Source” term? Also, the 2024 Nobel Prizes in Physics and Chemistry are heavily tied to AI; we scrutinize not only this year's prizes, but also Nobel Prizes as a concept.
- (00:00) - Intro
- (00:30) - Hot off the press
- (03:45) - Open Source AI background
- (10:30) - Definitions and changes in RC1
- (18:36) - “Business source”
- (22:17) - Parallels with legislation
- (26:22) - Impacts of the OSAID
- (33:58) - 2024 Nobel Prize Context
- (37:21) - Chemistry prize
- (45:06) - Physics prize
- (50:29) - Takeaways
- (52:03) - What’s the real muck?
- (01:00:27) - Outro
Links
More Reading on Open Source AI
- Kairos.FM article - Open Source AI is a lie, but it doesn't have to be
- The Register article - The open source AI civil war approaches
- MIT Technology Review article - We finally have a definition for open-source AI
On Nobel Prizes
- Paper - Access to Opportunity in the Sciences: Evidence from the Nobel Laureates
- Physics prize - scientific background, popular info
- Chemistry prize - scientific background, popular info
- Reuters article - Google's Nobel prize winners stir debate over AI research
- Wikipedia article - Nobel disease
Other Sources
The Open Source AI Definition is out after years of drafting, will it reestablish brand meaning for the “Open Source” term? Also, the 2024 Nobel Prizes in Physics and Chemistry are heavily tied to AI; we scrutinize not only this year's prizes, but also Nobel Prizes as a concept.
- (00:00) - Intro
- (00:30) - Hot off the press
- (03:45) - Open Source AI background
- (10:30) - Definitions and changes in RC1
- (18:36) - “Business source”
- (22:17) - Parallels with legislation
- (26:22) - Impacts of the OSAID
- (33:58) - 2024 Nobel Prize Context
- (37:21) - Chemistry prize
- (45:06) - Physics prize
- (50:29) - Takeaways
- (52:03) - What’s the real muck?
- (01:00:27) - Outro
Links
More Reading on Open Source AI
- Kairos.FM article - Open Source AI is a lie, but it doesn't have to be
- The Register article - The open source AI civil war approaches
- MIT Technology Review article - We finally have a definition for open-source AI
On Nobel Prizes
- Paper - Access to Opportunity in the Sciences: Evidence from the Nobel Laureates
- Physics prize - scientific background, popular info
- Chemistry prize - scientific background, popular info
- Reuters article - Google's Nobel prize winners stir debate over AI research
- Wikipedia article - Nobel disease
Other Sources
Previous Episode

SB1047
Why is Mark Ruffalo talking about SB1047, and what is it anyway? Tune in for our thoughts on the now vetoed California legislation that had Big Tech scared.
- (00:00) - Intro
- (00:31) - Updates from a relatively slow week
- (03:32) - Disclaimer: SB1047 vetoed during recording (still worth a listen)
- (05:24) - What is SB1047
- (12:30) - Definitions
- (17:18) - Understanding the bill
- (28:42) - What are the players saying about it?
- (46:44) - Addressing critiques
- (55:59) - Open Source
- (01:02:36) - Takeaways
- (01:15:40) - Clarification on impact to big tech
- (01:18:51) - Outro
Links
- SB1047 legislation page
- SB1047 CalMatters page
- Newsom vetoes SB1047
- CAIS newsletter on SB1047
- Prominent AI nerd letter
- Anthropic's letter
- SB1047 ~explainer
Additional SB1047 Related Coverage
- Opposition to SB1047 'makes no sense'
- Newsom on SB1047
- Andreesen Horowitz on SB1047
- Classy move by Dan
- Ex-OpenAI employee says Altman doesn't want regulation
Other Sources
Next Episode

Winter is Coming for OpenAI
Brace yourselves, winter is coming for OpenAI - atleast, that's what we think. In this episode we look at OpenAI's recent massive funding round and ask "why would anyone want to fund a company that is set to lose net 5 billion USD for 2024?" We scrape through a whole lot of muck to find the meaningful signals in all this news, and there is a lot of it, so get ready!
- (00:00) - Intro
- (00:28) - Hot off the press
- (02:43) - Why listen?
- (06:07) - Why might VCs invest?
- (15:52) - What are people saying
- (23:10) - How *is* OpenAI making money?
- (28:18) - Is AI hype dying?
- (41:08) - Why might big companies invest?
- (48:47) - Concrete impacts of AI
- (52:37) - Outcome 1: OpenAI as a commodity
- (01:04:02) - Outcome 2: AGI
- (01:04:42) - Outcome 3: best plausible case
- (01:07:53) - Outcome 1*: many ways to bust
- (01:10:51) - Outcome 4+: shock factor
- (01:12:51) - What's the muck
- (01:21:17) - Extended outro
Links
- Reuters article - OpenAI closes $6.6 billion funding haul with investment from Microsoft and Nvidia
- Goldman Sachs report - GenAI: Too Much Spend, Too Little Benefit
- Apricitas Economics article - The AI Investment Boom
- Discussion of "The AI Investment Boom" on YCombinator
- State of AI in 13 Charts
- Fortune article - OpenAI sees $5 billion loss in 2024 and soaring sales as big ChatGPT fee hikes planned, report says
More on AI Hype (Dying)
- Latent Space article - The Winds of AI Winter
- Article by Gary Marcus - The Great AI Retrenchment has Begun
- TimmermanReport article - AI: If Not Now, When? No, Really - When?
- MIT News article - Who Will Benefit from AI?
- Washington Post article - The AI Hype bubble is deflating. Now comes the hard part.
- Andreesen Horowitz article - Why AI Will Save the World
Other Sources
- Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence Foundation Model Transparency Index
- Cointelegraph article - Europe gathers global experts to draft ‘Code of Practice’ for AI
- Reuters article - Microsoft's VP of GenAI research to join OpenAI
- Twitter post from Tim Brooks on joining DeepMind
- Edward Zitron article - The Man Who Killed Google Search
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