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Motive and Opportunity

Motive & Opportunity | Amanda & Keith

Two best friends tell each other true crime stories they think the other hasn't heard yet. Each week, Amanda and Keith tell each other about some of the most egregious crimes - heard this one before?

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Motive and Opportunity - Elizabeth Wettlaufer pt. 2

Elizabeth Wettlaufer pt. 2

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06/10/24 • 58 min

On this episode of Motive and Opportunity, Amanda and Keith discuss fascinating historical facts, and pride as protest. Then, Keith finishes the story of Elizabeth Wettlaufer, one of Canada's most notorious serial killers of a different sort.
Sources:
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/unsealed-court-documents-say-ex-nurse-suspended-over-medication-errors/article_1d8cea6e-51f3-561a-a945-e17568c6acb5.html
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/if-you-ever-do-this-again-we-ll-turn-you-in-pastor-told-killer-nurse/article_fb3dcedc-a2e4-57b1-bd7c-a03eee428744.html
https://globalnews.ca/news/3495384/elizabeth-wettlaufer-timeline/
http://longtermcareinquiry.ca/wp-content/uploads/Agreed-Statement-of-Facts-on-Guilty-Plea.pdf
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/long-term-care-inquiry-elizabeth-wettlaufer-what-could-have-stopped-you-1.4776403
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/canadian-public-inquiry-serial-killing-nurse-wouldnt-have-been-caught-if-she-hadnt-confessed/2019/07/31/0c8ba8e0-b309-11e9-acc8-1d847bacca73_story.html
https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Elizabeth_Wettlaufer
https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/elizabeth-wettlaufer-case
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44377735
Episodes 48 and 49 of Canadian True Crime
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Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

You can talk to a mental health professional, one on one:
Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults) or 686868 (Youth)

If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call Talk Suicide Canada at 1-833-456-4566. Support is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. For residents of Quebec, call 1-866-277-3553 (24/7) or visit suicide.ca Visit Talk Suicide Canada for the distress centres and crisis organizations nearest you, if you're experiencing gender-based violence, you can access a crisis line in your province or territory.

Hope for Wellness Help Line: 1-855-242-3310 (toll-free) or connect to the online Hope for Wellness chat. Services are available to all Indigenous peoples across Canada who need immediate emotional support, crisis intervention or referrals to community-based services experienced and culturally sensitive helpline counsellors can help if you want to talk in English and French and, on request, in Cree, Ojibway, and Inuktitut.

For Domestic Violence sheltersafe.ca is an online resource to help women and their children seeking safety from violence and abuse. The clickable map will serve as a fast resource to connect women with the nearest shelter that can offer safety, hope, and support.

Childhelp National Child Abuse 24/7 Hotline (multilingual service available): 1-800-422-4453

TransLife - 1-877-330-6366

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Motive and Opportunity - Elizabeth Wettlaufer pt. 1

Elizabeth Wettlaufer pt. 1

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05/27/24 • 63 min

Amanda and Keith discuss a recent attack on feminism, and reveal the new posting schedule for Motive & Opportunity. Afterwards, Keith discusses an 'angel of death' killer who became one of the most infamous serial killers in Canadian history.

Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Wettlaufer

https://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/sh/TBk79oWhpi/elizabeth-wettlaufer-nurse-senior-deaths/

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/former-nurse-stands-accused-of-being-one-of-canadas-most-prolific-serial-killers/article32530298/

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/unsealed-court-documents-say-ex-nurse-suspended-over-medication-errors/article_1d8cea6e-51f3-561a-a945-e17568c6acb5.html

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/if-you-ever-do-this-again-we-ll-turn-you-in-pastor-told-killer-nurse/article_fb3dcedc-a2e4-57b1-bd7c-a03eee428744.html

https://globalnews.ca/news/3495384/elizabeth-wettlaufer-timeline/

http://longtermcareinquiry.ca/wp-content/uploads/Agreed-Statement-of-Facts-on-Guilty-Plea.pdf

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/long-term-care-inquiry-elizabeth-wettlaufer-what-could-have-stopped-you-1.4776403

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/canadian-public-inquiry-serial-killing-nurse-wouldnt-have-been-caught-if-she-hadnt-confessed/2019/07/31/0c8ba8e0-b309-11e9-acc8-1d847bacca73_story.html

https://criminalminds.fandom.com/wiki/Elizabeth_Wettlaufer

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/elizabeth-wettlaufer-case

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44377735

Canadian True Crime - Episode 48

Resources:
Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

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Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults) or 686868 (Youth)

If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call Talk Suicide Canada at 1-833-456-4566. Support is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. For residents of Quebec, call 1-866-277-3553 (24/7) or visit suicide.ca Visit Talk Suicide Canada for the distress centres and crisis organizations nearest you, if you're experiencing gender-based violence, you can access a crisis line in your province or t

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Motive and Opportunity - Sister Florine Brun and The Disappearance of the Jack Family
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05/06/24 • 53 min

Amanda starts us off this week by telling you a story of a murdered nun and Keith tells the story of the mysterious disappearance of an entire indigenous family some 35 years ago that remains unsolved to this day.

Sources:
Amanda:

http://pgnewspapers.pgpl.ca/fedora/repository/pgc%3A1990-03-13-06/OCR/Full%20Text%20OCR

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2019/06/08/le-meurtrier-dune-religieuse-du-nouveau-brunswick-meurt-en-detention-dans-un-penitencier-du-quebec

https://www.scribd.com/book/523757696/The-Mr-Big-Sting-The-Cases-the-Killers-the-Controversial-Confessions

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/scc/doc/1994/1994canlii95/1994canlii95.html

Various news paper articles

Keith:

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/investigation-continues-into-1989-disappearance-of-prince-george-family

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/tragic-and-haunting-memory-b-c-family-has-been-missing-for-30-years-1.4586305

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4772972

https://www.canadaunsolved.com/cases/missing-jack-family-1989-bc?format=amp

https://medium.com/@reallyhorrifying/the-family-that-vanished-the-jack-family-disappearance-b55e3e2ad246

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5702888

Resources:

Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

You can talk to a mental health professional, one on one:
Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults) or 686868 (Youth)

If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call Talk Suicide Canada at 1-833-456-4566. Support is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. For residents of Quebec, call 1-866-277-3553 (24/7) or visit suicide.ca Visit Talk Suicide Canada for the distress centres and crisis organizations nearest you, if you're experiencing gender-based violence, you can access a crisis line in your province or territory.

Hope for Wellness Help Line: 1-855-242-3310 (toll-free) or connect to the online Hope for Wellness chat. Services are available to all Indigenous peoples across Canada who need immediate emotional support, crisis intervention or referrals to community-based services experienced and culturally sensitive helpline counsellors can help if you want to talk in English and French and, on request, in Cree, Ojibway, and Inuktitut.

For Domestic Violence sheltersafe.ca is an online resource to help women and their children seeking safety from violence and abuse. The clickable map will serve as a fast resource to connect women with the nearest shelter that can offer safety, hope, and support.

Childhelp National Child Abuse 24/7 Hotline (multilingual service ava

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Motive and Opportunity - The Bandidos Massacre and Phu Lam

The Bandidos Massacre and Phu Lam

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04/29/24 • 43 min

On this week's episode of Motive and Opportunity, Keith tells us the story of a gang-related killing of 8 men, whose bodies were found in a field, and Amanda tells the story of an awful mass shooter in Edmonton, Alberta.

Sources:

Keith:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/timeline-of-the-bandidos-massacre-1.777910

https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/the-bandidos-massacre-an-execution-assembly-line-wiped-out-the-toronto-biker-gang-10-years/article_4ef88983-e2f2-5382-ba5a-4e9c194fd010.html

https://lfpress.com/2016/04/07/the-six-jailed-bandidos-hoped-the-supreme-court-of-canada-would-let-them-appeal-their-eight-murder-convictions

https://london.ctvnews.ca/murder-convictions-in-mass-bandidos-biker-killings-upheld-by-ontario-court-1.2330447

Amanda:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/crime/broken-pieces-a-year-after-edmontons-worst-mass-murder

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/a-timeline-of-events-for-the-senseless-mass-murder-in-edmonton

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/police-identify-victims-in-edmonton-mass-killing-as-shooters-wife-her-parents-and-sister-two-children-and-a-friend-2

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/what-made-edmonton-shooter-phu-lam-so-angry-that-he-killed-eight-people

https://edmontonsun.com/2015/01/06/funeral-held-in-edmonton-for-six-victims-of-mass-killing

Resources:

Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

You can talk to a mental health professional, one on one:
Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults) or 686868 (Youth)

If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call Talk Suicide Canada at 1-833-456-4566. Support is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. For residents of Quebec, call 1-866-277-3553 (24/7) or visit suicide.ca Visit Talk Suicide Canada for the distress centres and crisis organizations nearest you, if you're experiencing gender-based violence, you can access a crisis line in your province or territory.

Hope for Wellness Help Line: 1-855-242-3310 (toll-free) or connect to the online Hope for Wellness chat. Services are available to all Indigenous peoples across Canada who need immediate emotional support, crisis intervention or referrals to community-based services experienced and culturally sen

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Motive and Opportunity - Ryan Grantham and Cody Barnoski

Ryan Grantham and Cody Barnoski

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04/22/24 • 63 min

This week, Amanda starts us off with a story of a Canadian child actor turned murderer, and then Keith tells us the story Cody Barnoski who commited the atrocious act of matricide.

Sources:
Amanda:
https://www.canlii.org/en/bc/bcsc/doc/2022/2022bcsc1827/2022bcsc1827.html?resultIndex=3&resultId=12ec10bc5a154496badc49306859f664&searchId=2024-04-20T09:05:07:010/c8b4c8837fcc47e0a3552145eda711c0&searchUrlHash=AAAAAQANcnlhbiBncmFudGhhbQAAAAAB

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/actor-ryan-grantham-court-sentencing-hearing-sentenced-1.6588962

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2566096/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/actor-ryan-grantham-addresses-court-sentencing-hearing-1.6489866

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/ryan-grantham-murder-mother-riverdale-b2198683.html

https://www.the-sun.com/news/6287852/riverdale-actor-ryan-grantham-killed-mom-details/

https://memorials.squamishfuneralchapel.com/Waite-Barbara/4175317/

Keith:
https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mandel-no-retrial-for-co-conspirator-of-son-who-murdered-his-mom

https://www.thestar.com/news/ontario/convicted-killer-s-family-failed-him-grandmother-says/article_f04f25d0-7a21-5dc7-b9ff-54a74602d835.amp.html

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/ottawa/2020/9/27/1_5122193.html

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/ontario-man-who-killed-mother-granted-full-parole-after-12-years-1.6089593

https://books.google.ca/books?id=GWxlDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA241&lpg=PA241&dq=michelle+barnoski&source=bl&ots=kNOYqPjdpu&sig=ACfU3U3GAAjxxcwkCHlC-YHSfbnRohuNXQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiUudDhq9GFAxXcMVkFHUTkAg44FBDoAXoECAYQAg#v=onepage&q=michelle%20barnoski&f=false

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/teen-gets-life-sentence-for-mother-s-shooting-death/article_9cfd1356-46b4-5e40-bb7f-6f3f5cc554ce.html

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/

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Motive and Opportunity - Brian Cohee Jr. and Cary Stayner

Brian Cohee Jr. and Cary Stayner

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04/17/24 • 27 min

Keith starts this week's episode with the story of Brian Cohee Jr., while Amanda tells us the follow up to her story last week and fills us in on the crimes of Steven Stayner's brother, Cary Stayner.

Sources:
Keith:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13248535/Brian-Cohee-homeless-murder-head-Warren-Barnes.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/brian-cohee-footage-murder-confession-b2522100.html

https://www.mesacounty.us/news/district-attorney/cohee-found-guilty

https://www.westernslopenow.com/news/the-people-v-brian-cohee-sentencing-hearing/

https://www.unilad.com/news/crime/brain-cohee-documentary-people-unable-to-sleep-690789-20240326

https://www.kkco11news.com/2023/01/30/brian-cohee-events-leading-murder/

https://coloradosun.com/2023/02/07/warren-barnes-reading-man-killer-sentenced/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvrp87VXtD4

Amanda:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/steven-stayner-documentary-captive-audience-b2067686.html

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/apr/20/there-was-a-lot-of-torment-the-family-who-endured-two-true-stories

https://www.crimelibrary.org/serial_killers/predators/stayner/index_1.html

https://www.recordnet.com/story/news/1999/07/27/case-suspect-s-uncle-is/50809474007/

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/stunning-details-in-stayner-s-confession-in-2908761.php

https://www.myyosemitepark.com/park/history/yosemite-serial-killer/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nudist-colony-helped-fbi-agents-find-yosemite-serial/story?id=60525273

https://people.com/crime/where-is-cary-stayner-now/

Captive Audience: A Real American Horror Story (2022)

Resources:

Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

You can talk to a mental health professional, one on one:
Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults)

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Motive and Opportunity - Steven Stayner and Denise Morelle

Steven Stayner and Denise Morelle

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04/08/24 • 46 min

Amanda begins this weeks episode with a story of Steven Stayner, who was kidnapped at 7 and escaped to save another boy, while Keith wraps up the episode with the story of an actress found dead inside of an empty apartment.

Sources:
Amanda:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/steven-stayner-documentary-captive-audience-b2067686.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Stayner

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2245&dat=19891003&id=McIzAAAAIBAJ&pg=4985,5312370

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/apr/20/there-was-a-lot-of-torment-the-family-who-endured-two-true-stories

https://www.crimeandinvestigation.co.uk/article/going-home-the-story-of-steven-stayner

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-09-22-vw-766-story.html

https://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/article3206657.html

Captive Audience: A Real American Horror Story (2022)

Keith:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidule_de_Tarmacadam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compagnons_de_Saint-Laurent

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/denise-morelle

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/06/29/il-y-a-30-ans-deja

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/man-pleads-guilty-to-murder-in-quebec-cold-case-1.676084

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/man-charged-with-murder-in-1984-death-of-quebec-actress-1.684182

Resources:

Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

You can talk to a mental health professional, one on one:
Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults) or 686868 (Youth)

If

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Motive and Opportunity - Rehtaeh Parsons and Johnathan Townsend
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04/01/24 • 46 min

Keith starts this weeks episode with a story of bullying that has a tragic end, and Amanda tells us the story of a young murderer named Johnathan Townsend.

Sources:
Keith:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Rehtaeh_Parsons

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-boy-in-notorious-rehtaeh-parsons-photo-talks-for-first-time-about-what-happened

http://rehtaehparsons.ca

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/five-years-gone/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/rehtaeh-parsons-second-man-walks-free-humiliation-canadian-teen-killed-herself

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(hacker_group)

No Place to Hide (2015)

Amanda:

https://thewalrus.ca/how-canadas-health-care-system-helped-create-a-killer/

https://northernontario.ctvnews.ca/judge-you-planned-and-you-acted-on-the-murder-townsend-gets-life-in-prison-1.3449382

https://torontosun.com/2013/09/25/us-girl-12-charged-in-connection-to-sault-murder

https://www.sootoday.com/city-police-beat/sault-killer-johnathan-townsend-loses-appeal-murder-conviction-stands-7644289#:~:text=Townsend%20was%2018%20when%20he,Marie%20courthouse.

https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/im-proud-of-myself-i-finally-did-it-i-took-someones-life-583907

https://www.thesudburystar.com/2017/04/27/family-of-murder-victim-to-speak-in-sault

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2017/2017onsc1204/2017onsc1204.html?resultIndex=1&resultId=4617cb76cb93471cba2b1270802cd59a&searchId=2024-03-11T15:44:07:094/96b0e6cf0cc14e5fbc7636bbdbe63e27&searchUrlHash=AAAAAQASSm9obmF0aGFuIFRvd25zZW5kAAAAAAE

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Motive and Opportunity - Israel Keyes Pt. 1

Israel Keyes Pt. 1

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07/01/24 • 45 min

A week late, because Keith can't operate a calendar... Amanda discusses how she ended up covered in glitter, and Keith tells us about Sharkasso. Amanda presents the first instalment of a multi-part episode about one of the most prolific and enigmatic serial killers, Israel Keyes.
Sources:
https://allthatsinteresting.com/samantha-koenig
https://www.legacyalaska.com/obituaries/Samantha-Koenig?obId=19079866
http://www.davidkushner.com/article/american-monster-the-hunt-for-serial-killer-israel-keyes/
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/israel-keyes-who-was-he-how-caught-evidence
https://nypost.com/2019/06/29/a-chilling-inside-look-at-one-of-americas-most-infamous-serial-killer-cases/
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2013/alaska-serial-killer-attended-racist-church-knew-terrorists
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity
https://www.usamm.com/products/army-achievement-medal#:~:text=The%20Army%20Achievement%20Medal%20(AAM,the%20grade%20of%20E%2D7.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29631500/#:~:text=The%20MacDonald%20triad%20posits%20that,and%20violent%20behavior%20in%20adults.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-keyes-fbi-evidence-serial-killer-unknown-victims-48-hours/
https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/israel-keyes
True Crime Bullshit podcast and Israel Keyes interrogation videos
Resources:
Suicide Crisis Helpline: If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call or text 9-8-8. Help is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Suicide Crisis Helpline offers support that is bilingual, trauma-informed, culturally appropriate, and available to anyone in Canada.

You can talk to a mental health professional, one on one:
Call 1-866-585-0445 or text WELLNESS to 741741 (Adults) or 686868 (Youth)

If you or someone you know is thinking about suicide, call Talk Suicide Canada at 1-833-456-4566. Support is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. For residents of Quebec, call 1-866-277-3553 (24/7) or visit suicide.ca Visit Talk Suicide Canada for the distress centres and crisis organizations nearest you, if you're experiencing gender-based violence, you can access a crisis line in your province or territory.

Hope for Wellness Help Line: 1-855-242-3310 (toll-free) or connect to the online Hope for Wellness chat. Services are available to all Indigenous peoples across Canada who need immediate emotional support, crisis intervention or referrals to community-based services experienced and culturally sensitive helpline counsellors can help if you want to talk in English and French and, on request, in Cree, Ojibway, and Inuktitut.

For Domestic Violence sheltersafe.ca is an online resource to help women and their children seeking safety from violence and abuse. The clickable map will serve as a fast resource to connect women with the nearest shelter that can offer safety, hope, and support.

Childhelp National Child Abuse 24/7 Hotline (multilingual service available): 1-800-422-4453

TransLife - 1-877-330-6366

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