
Money and the Mind
Andy Koepp and Aaron Sailer
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Ep28: Self Care
Money and the Mind
10/26/20 • 5 min
We take a brief hiatus this week, but we'll be back on our regular schedule for the next episode!
In the meantime, Andy discusses the importance of self care.28

Ep25: Financial Stress and Suicide
Money and the Mind
09/14/20 • 45 min
Heads up: This episode is about suicide.
If you need help, please call a suicide hotline. In the U.S., call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255 any time of day — press "1" to reach the Veterans Crisis Line or use Lifeline Chat
On today’s episode, Andy and Aaron discuss:
-Suicidal ideation versus suicidal intent
-COVID’s impact on suicidal thought
-The link between debt and suicide
-The impact of trauma
-Suicidal ideation or intent despite no past mental illness
-Preventive factors
-Your situation and thoughts matter
-Empathy vs. sympathy
-Signs to look for
(Note: My mic picked up way more sound than I thought - you’ll hear my dog playing ball at the beginning, but he finds another adventure after a few minutes. -Aaron)
Resources/Links:
AFSP: Home
Suicide Deaths in the United States
Mental Health, Substance Use, and Suicidal Ideation During the COVID-19 Pandemic
impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on suicide rates
COVID-19 (coronavirus) and the risk of suicide
Report: Financial difficulty and suicide - Money and Mental Health
Suicide and Debt: The Link We Can No Longer Ignore
Mind Over Money by Brad and Ted Klontz (the Kindle version is the only easy access, unfortunately)
Your Money and Your Brain by Jason Zweig
Brené Brown podcast “Unlocking Us”

Ep18: Step Back and Listen
Money and the Mind
06/08/20 • 10 min
Articles to educate and learn how to help:
The Real Reason White People Say 'All Lives Matter'Take an implicit bias testJustice in JuneBlack Workers, Already Lagging, Face Big Economic RisksSamuel Sinyangwe: Research-based solutions to stop police violence75 Things White People Can Do for Racial JusticeAnti-racism resources for white peopleHow The Crisis Is Making Racial Inequality WorseMovies to Watch to Educate Yourself About Racism, Protests | Time
Podcasts:
The Breakdown with Shaun KingShaka Senghor | Writing My WrongsRatchet & Respectable
Books:
The Miseducation of the Negro by Carter G WoodsonI Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya AngelouI’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing BrownBetween the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi CoatesEvicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City by Matthew Desmond

Ep3: Out-of-Control Overspending
Money and the Mind
12/09/19 • 45 min
Welcome to Money and the Mind! On today’s episode, we discuss:
-The Grilled-Fried-Micro Burger
-Omaha’s famous rock
-Aaron and Andy’s tendencies with spending
-Overspending, its effects, and examples
-The Vanderbilts
-Techniques/resources to help with overspending
-On what Aaron and Andy would overspend
Links:
Strange Planet comic (not discussed but perfectly fitting for the episode)
Omaha's famous rock
Fortune’s Children
Story reference 1
Story reference 2
shopaholicnomore.com

Ep1: Psychology and Money
Money and the Mind
12/06/19 • 42 min
Welcome to Money and the Mind! Discussed in this first episode:
-Introducing ourselves
-Introducing the show
-Andy’s group therapy story
-Aaron’s credit card information was stolen
-What is financial therapy?
-Andy and Aaron discuss their own relationship with money
-What did you want to buy when you were a child?
-Actionable steps and resources
Links:
The Atlantic: Your Brain on Poverty
Credit Karma
Financial Therapy Association
Mind Over Money book
I Will Teach You to be Rich book
Dr. Brad Klontz YouTube page
Show email: [email protected]

Ep29: How to Have Better Money Conversations
Money and the Mind
11/09/20 • 36 min
Andy and Aaron discuss how to have better money conversations, conversational pitfalls, a Schitt’s Creek connection, listening, silence, and more.
Resources/Links:
How to Have Better Conversations
The Psychology of Money: Timeless Lessons on Wealth, Greed, and Happiness
Send us an email! [email protected]

Ep65: Money Misinformation with Dr. Brad Klontz
Money and the Mind
05/22/22 • 52 min
Dr. Brad Klontz joins the show to discuss misinformation around money and mental health, the near impossibility of successful day trading, cryptocurrency, how the wealthy approach investing, harmful money advice on social media, the best way to motivate people to save, and more!
Audio outro: The Black Keys, “For the Love of Money”
Intro music by David von Kampen
Links:
Dr. Brad Klontz website
Money Mindset YouTube channel
Dr. Klontz on TikTok
Money Mammoth book
Mind Over Money book
Research articles
Find your Money Script
Money and the Mind Ep40 with Dr. Klontz
Bio from Dr. Klontz’s website (lightly edited):
Bradley T. Klontz, Psy.D., CFP is a Co-Founder of the Financial Psychology Institute and an Associate Professor of Practice in Financial Psychology at Creighton University Heider College of Business. He is a Managing Principal of Your Mental Wealth Advisors, a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, and a Former President of the Hawaii Psychological Association. He has partnered with organizations including Capital One, JP Morgan Chase, Mutual of Omaha, and H&R Block in efforts to help raise public awareness around issues related to financial health and financial psychology.
Dr. Klontz was awarded the Innovative Practice Presidential Citation from the American Psychological Association for his application of psychological interventions to help people with money and wealth issues and his innovative practice in financial psychology for practitioners across the country.
Dr. Klontz has been a columnist for the Journal of Financial Planning, On Wall Street, and PsychologyToday.com, and has co-authored/co-edited six books on the psychology of money.
His work has been featured on ABC News’ 20/20, Good Morning America, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Time, Kiplinger’s, Money Magazine, NPR, and many others.

Ep45: Money & Relationships with Dr. Kristy Archuleta
Money and the Mind
05/24/21 • 66 min
Dr. Kristy Archuleta joins Andy and Aaron to discuss growing up on a farm, development of financial therapy as a (relatively) new academic study, the intensity of financial arguments, is a lack of arguments in a relationship healthy?, financial vulnerability, the benefits of self talk and taking a walk, a separate bank accounts success story, conflicts in estate planning and wills, strategies for conflict resolution, women in farming, and more!
(Apologies for a few instances of choppy audio.)
Audio outro: The Head and the Heart, “Take a Walk”
Links:
Kristy Archuleta | UGA
Journal of Financial Therapy
"Knives Out" trailer
Women Managing the Farm
Bio (lightly edited):
Dr. Kristy Archuleta is a Professor in the Financial Planning program at the University of Georgia, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, and a Certified Financial Therapist-ITM. Prior to joining the faculty at UGA in 2018, she was an Associate Professor and Program Director of the Personal Financial Planning program at Kansas State University. Her research and teaching interests relate to financial therapy, couples and money, and effective mechanisms to improve financial and overall well-being. She has co-edited two books: Financial Planning and Scales and Financial Therapy: Theory, Theory, Research, and Practice and published numerous scholarly articles.
Dr. Archuleta is a co-founding board member and Past-President of the Financial Therapy Association, co-founding Editor of the Journal of Financial Therapy, and a co-founder of Women Managing the Farm. She serves on the Board of Directors for the National Association of Personal Financial Advisors and the National Consumer Education Foundation, the Financial Therapy Association Certification Committee, and the Editorial Boards for Financial Planning Review, Journal of Financial Planning, and Korean Financial Planning Review. She is commonly featured in podcasts and major news media outlets, such as the New York Times, Investment News, and CNBC, to name a few. Her cutting-edge research contributions, along with her co-authors, have been recognized with awards such as the 2019 National Endowment for Education sponsored Research to Practice Outstanding AFCPE Conference Paper Award and the Outstanding Journal Article Award given at the Association for Financial Counseling and Planning Education annual conference in 2014 and 2020. Dr. Archuleta is a recipient of the Kansas State University College of Human Ecology Myers-Alford Outstanding Teaching Award and the Oklahoma State University College of Human Sciences Distinguished Alumna Award.

Ep43: Money, Power, Glory, and Vans with Dr. Jeff Mallinson
Money and the Mind
05/03/21 • 121 min
Dr. Jeff Mallinson joins Andy and Aaron in this jam-packed episode to discuss his family financial history, the dangerous combination of power and money, Christian schools and communities, the organism-like behavior of systems, cryptocurrency, financial tendencies of cult victims, Dave Ramsey, the ethics of debt, living a minimalist lifestyle, selling an underwater-mortgage house in the 2008 real estate crash, traveling and camping in a van, the dream van/vehicle, and more.
Note: The campsite mentioned in the show (which we couldn’t think of in real time) is called Streeter Park in Aurora, Nebraska, and features free camping, free electrical hookups, and more.
Audio intro: Lana Del Rey, “Money Power Glory”
Audio outro: David von Kampen, “Aurora” (feat. Andrea von Kampen)
Links:
Jeff Mallinson.com
Dr. Mallinson on Twitter
Protect Your Noggin website
Protect Your Noggin podcast
The Christian Difference: An Explanation & Comparison of World Religions
Virtue in the Wasteland podcast
ViW: Antiwisdom episode
Boondockers Welcome: Boondocking and Free RV Camping
RV Camping with Harvest Hosts
Mitsubishi Delica
Bio (lightly edited):
Dr. Mallinson is the Professor & Chair of History and Political Thought at Concordia University, Irvine. He has a D. Phil. from Oxford University and is a speaker, podcaster, and writer. He specializes in the history of ideas, especially as they shed light on the ways in which religious and philosophical ideas can both emancipate and enslave people. In addition to several scholarly book chapters and articles, he is author of Sexy: The Quest for Erotic Virtue in Perplexing Times (New Reformation Press, 2017), Faith, Reason, and Revelation in Theodore Beza: 1519-1605 (Oxford University Press, 2003), and associate editor of The Encyclopedia of Luther and the Reformation (Rowman & Littlefield, 2017). He is focused these days on rethinking the methods of religious education and outfoxing religious wolves, which is the mission of his podcast and curriculum called Protect Your Noggin, co-hosted with his wife Stacie. He is the faculty in residence for Concordia's Honors Living and Learning Community. For fun, he enjoys writing poetry and long-term boondocking in a truck bed camper, and developing a small off-grid farm in rural San Diego County.

Ep40: Our Financial Wiring with Dr. Brad Klontz
Money and the Mind
03/29/21 • 69 min
Dr. Brad Klontz joins the show to discuss early money memories, how we’re wired to make poor financial decisions (and why that’s empowering), what separates the wealthy from the ultra-wealthy, teaching young people, the usefulness of understanding Money Scripts and financial flashpoints, money avoidance, workaholism, a simple tactic for saving, and more!
Links:Dr. Brad Klontz website
Money Mindset YouTube channel
Dr. Klontz on TikTok
Dr. Klontz’s new Money Mammoth book
Mind Over Money book
Research articles
Financial Health Academy
Find your Money Script
Sprinter vansFinancial Flashpoints episode
Money Scripts episode
Send us an email! [email protected]
Bio from Dr. Klontz’s website (lightly edited):
Bradley T. Klontz, Psy.D., CFP is a Co-Founder of the Financial Psychology Institute and an Associate Professor of Practice in Financial Psychology at Creighton University Heider College of Business. He is a Managing Principal of Your Mental Wealth Advisors, a Fellow of the American Psychological Association, and a Former President of the Hawaii Psychological Association. He has partnered with organizations including Capital One, JP Morgan Chase, Mutual of Omaha, and H&R Block in efforts to help raise public awareness around issues related to financial health and financial psychology.
Dr. Klontz was awarded the Innovative Practice Presidential Citation from the American Psychological Association for his application of psychological interventions to help people with money and wealth issues and his innovative practice in financial psychology for practitioners across the country.
Dr. Klontz has been a columnist for the Journal of Financial Planning, On Wall Street, and PsychologyToday.com, and has co-authored/co-edited six books on the psychology of money.
His work has been featured on ABC News’ 20/20, Good Morning America, USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Time, Kiplinger’s, Money Magazine, NPR, and many others.
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FAQ
How many episodes does Money and the Mind have?
Money and the Mind currently has 72 episodes available.
What topics does Money and the Mind cover?
The podcast is about Health & Fitness, Debt, Behavior, Psychology, Investing, Personal Finance, Mental Health, Money, Therapy, Podcasts, Education and Brain.
What is the most popular episode on Money and the Mind?
The episode title 'Ep71: A Year of Financial Stress' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on Money and the Mind?
The average episode length on Money and the Mind is 47 minutes.
How often are episodes of Money and the Mind released?
Episodes of Money and the Mind are typically released every 14 days.
When was the first episode of Money and the Mind?
The first episode of Money and the Mind was released on Dec 6, 2019.
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