
Episode #21 | A Conversation with Anthony Carnevale of Georgetown University
06/01/22 • 44 min
As Research Professor and Director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce, Dr. Anthony Carnevale knows the journey adolescents take to adulthood has changed drastically over the last 40 years.
Decades ago, a high school education was enough to help a young adult land a job with a living wage. Today, college—if not a secondary degree—is a requirement.
In a new episode of our MindMaxing podcast series, “Adolescence to Adulthood,” Dr. Carnevale outlines the political, economic, and social shifts that have made obtaining a college education a necessity—and a challenge—for many students, especially those from lower-income families.
He warns, “We’re getting better and better at education and connecting it to labor markets, but it’s being done for the most advantaged kids.”
Listen to this fascinating and insightful episode.
As Research Professor and Director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce, Dr. Anthony Carnevale knows the journey adolescents take to adulthood has changed drastically over the last 40 years.
Decades ago, a high school education was enough to help a young adult land a job with a living wage. Today, college—if not a secondary degree—is a requirement.
In a new episode of our MindMaxing podcast series, “Adolescence to Adulthood,” Dr. Carnevale outlines the political, economic, and social shifts that have made obtaining a college education a necessity—and a challenge—for many students, especially those from lower-income families.
He warns, “We’re getting better and better at education and connecting it to labor markets, but it’s being done for the most advantaged kids.”
Listen to this fascinating and insightful episode.
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Episode #20 | A Conversation with Rick Dalton of CFES Brilliant Pathways
Rick Dalton, CEO and President of CFES Brilliant Pathways, is committed to helping students overcome obstacles, access educational opportunities, and achieve success in their lives.
While today’s higher education landscape is complex and changing rapidly, Rick notes that students can still take control of their academic destinies.
In the second episode of our MindMaxing podcast series, Adolescence to Adulthood, Rick outlines three crucial steps for ambitious students. His advice is clear: “Get a mentor, think about developing essential skills, and think also about pathways and what it’s going to take to move down your pathway.”
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Episode #22 | A Conversation with George Irvine, University of Delaware
As Associate Vice Provost for the Division of Professional and Continuing Studies at the University of Delaware, George Irvine, PhD, is keenly aware that students today ask themselves, "Why do I need to go to college?"
Traditional pathways to higher education are expensive and time-consuming, and even employers are beginning to question the value of a four-year degree.
In the latest episode of our MindMaxing Podcast series, "Adolescence to Adulthood," Dr. Irvine notes that a more affordable and flexible education model is needed. The pandemic provided a catalyst for change.
According to Dr. Irvine, university leaders are starting to discuss "alternative credentials, stackable badges, digital badges, certificates, and the like. All this nomenclature is basically saying, 'You don't need a four-year period of time. You can make [higher education] shorter, accessible, stackable, and digital.'"
MindMaxing: Conversations on Higher Ed - Episode #21 | A Conversation with Anthony Carnevale of Georgetown University
Transcript
Hi, my name's Lee Maxey and I'm the CEO at Mindmax, and welcome to another mind maxing podcast. We are glad to present our new series, which is adolescents to adulthood and how educational experiences and structures either help or hinder someone and their journey to adulthood. We are glad to explore this from a variety of perspectives from people who are looking at it in the K12 or higher ed or the employer perspective and those on the fringe, servicing all those in that process. We hope you e
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